Girl found suffocated was locked in box as punishment

[CG6468]

Girl found suffocated was locked in box as punishment

Four adult relatives of 10 year old Ame Deal, who was found suffocated in a storage bin in Arizona July 12, 2011, are shown in this combination of their police booking mugs which were released to Reuters July 28, 2011. Clockwise from left are aunt Cynthia Stoltzman, grandmother Judith Deal, cousin Samantha Allen and her husband Girl found suffocated was locked in box as punishment

By David Schwartz

PHOENIX | Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:40pm EDT

(Reuters) - Four adult relatives of an Arizona girl found suffocated in a storage bin have been arrested after investigators determined she was locked in the container as punishment for taking a popsicle without permission.

The victim, 10-year-old Ame Deal, was found dead on July 12 in the Phoenix home where she lived with an aunt, grandmother and two cousins following what police said at the time may have been the tragic ending to a game of hide-and-seek.

On Wednesday night, authorities arrested the girl's elder cousin and her husband, Samantha and John Allen, both 23, on suspicion of first-degree murder after they confessed to locking the child in the storage container, police said.

The girl's aunt and legal guardian, Cynthia Stoltzmann, who is Samantha Allen's mother, was arrested on suspicion of child abuse and kidnapping, along with the girl's grandmother, Judith Deal, 62, Stoltzmann's mother.

Gee. They look so intelligent, too....

[Boudicca]

This is such a tragedy.
I wonder if the entire family isn't a bunch of meth heads or something, as they all look zoned out.  Hope they all get the maximum penalty.

[CG6468]

Do we hear more about this kind of thing because the population is larger? Were goofballs like this fewer in number in past decades?

I wonder what the percentage of ass-wipes is now compared to the 60's and before that.

[thundley4]

Do we hear more about this kind of thing because the population is larger? Were goofballs like this fewer in number in past decades?

I wonder what the percentage of ass-wipes is now compared to the 60's and before that.

24 hour news channels and the internet lets these stories get more widespread, too. IMO 

[CG6468]

24 hour news channels and the internet lets these stories get more widespread, too. IMO 

Oh, I agree 100%. But what happened to these creeps before modern communications?

[thundley4]

Oh, I agree 100%. But what happened to these creeps before modern communications?

The stories were big local news, but just never made it national.

[CG6468]

The stories were big local news, but just never made it national.

Some went national. Like Ed Gien from Wisconsin, pervert extraordinaire.

"I had a compulsion to do it."

Born at the turn of the century into the small farming community of Plainfield, Wisconsin, Gein lived a repressive and solitary life on his family homestead with a weak, ineffectual brother and domineering mother who taught him from an early age that sex was a sinful thing. Eddie ran the family's 160-acre farm on the outskirts of Plainfield until his brother Henry died in 1944 and his mother in 1945. When she died her son was a thirty-nine-year-old bachelor, still emotionally enslaved to the woman who had tyrannized his life. The rest of the house, however, soon degenerated into a madman's shambles. Thanks to federal subsidies, Gein no longer needed to farm his land, and he abandoned it to do odd jobs here and there for the Plainfield residents, to earn him a little extra cash. But he remained alone in the enormous farmhouse, haunted by the ghost of his overbearing mother, whose bedroom he kept locked and undisturbed, exactly as it had been when she was alive. He also sealed off the drawing room and five more upstairs rooms, living only in one downstairs room and the kitchen.

"Weird old Eddie", as the local community know him, had begun to develop a deeply unhealthy interest in the intimate anatomy of the female body - and interest that was fed by medical encyclopedias, books on anatomy, pulp horror novels and pornographic magazines. He became particularly interested in the atrocities committed by the Nazis during the Second World War and the medical experiments performed on Jews in the concentration camps. Soon he graduated on to the real thing by digging up decaying female corpses by night in far-flung Wisconsin cemeteries. These he would dissect and keep some parts heads, sex organs, livers, hearts and intestines. Then he would flay the skin from the body, draping it over a tailor's dummy or even wearing it himself to dance and cavort around the homestead - a practice that apparently gave him intense gratification. On other occasions, Gein took only the body parts that particularly interested him. He was especially fascinated by the excised female genitalia, which he would fondle and play with, sometimes stuffing them into a pair of women's panties, which he would then wear around the house. Not surprisingly, he quickly became a recluse in the community, discouraging any visitors from coming near his by now neglected and decaying farm.

I remember seeing pictures of lampshades he made out of human skin.

Ed Gien

[vesta111]

Do we hear more about this kind of thing because the population is larger? Were goofballs like this fewer in number in past decades?

I wonder what the percentage of ass-wipes is now compared to the 60's and before that.

 

CG6 we hear about this because of the internet.    

As a kid those of us 12-14 would go into abandoned homes and look about, we found all kinds of left junk stuff, and dragged it home to be fixed or put in the fireplace.

 I was the one that looked for old news papers.      Bonanza as walls were insulated with them and I was fascinated with the storeys from the big city's 60-80 years ago at that time.

I had a history teacher that when I wrote about the past and included say the NYT story on child prostitution at that time had a fit,   called my story with the news paper clipping not suitable for the class and gave me a D-.

Into the 1960's I found a New York paper telling about the problems with Herion and the prostitution that came about,  This time my parents got a call from the school-----Even with the news clipping it seemed that this information was unsuitable for my age group, SENIOR.    

My parents because of the time sided with the school,  if I wanted to graduate I had best do as told and keep my mouth shut.  Just ignore any falsehoods I heard, never argue with the teacher, tell them what they want to and expect to hear.

Yup CG6 the stuff we hear today is nothing like it was back when Teddy Roosevelt became Mayor of NY. Nothing in any history class teaches us about the horror of living in NY, Chicago or Philly.

Hell, in the 50's I had a class mate a foster child that lived on a farm and at 10 was forced to do a mans work, he came to school with black and blue bruises on his face.

CG6,  what you hear about today is nothing compaired to the days before there was any child protective services.

  

[vesta111]

Some went national. Like Ed Gien from Wisconsin, pervert extraordinaire.

I remember seeing pictures of lampshades he made out of human skin.

Ed Gien

Are you not thinking of MEAT BALL ANNIE    The prison guard at one of the death camps WW2

From what I have read and this may or not be fact, she checked all prisoners out for tattoos, those with them after death were flied and she made lamp shades of the skin.  She may have been into arts and crafts and found other uses for the skin but so far no one has the stomach to find out what else she did.

Story goes she disappeared after the war and only turned up later living in New York City in the late 1970's.

Seems a family member one of the German scientists we were so glad to bring here, had her as a dependent and  she was untouchable.

After the war we had a sort of fight that became a brain drain with the Russians, we offered the Germans a place to live, work and continue their experiments in America and allow them to bring in family's and friends regardless of past history.

Few of the monsters have been caught here except that 89 year old man in NY they recently deported to Israel for trial.

The living monsters are so old, their family's have no idea what they did 60+ years ago.   The survivors are also getting so old that it takes so much from them to testify, it in itself may shorten their life.

CG6, monsters like Gein are like the cocoroach, find one and realise there are many more in hiding.------Stomp on the bastard but that does not help, put out traps but most get away.

This is life, monsters and bugs are almost impossible to remove unless one goes on a killing spree.   Tent the house kill everything inside, then when the home is livable, guard the gates, allow no one onto the property, never allow the family to leave the property.

This is not a good life, we need to teach our children how to move about the monsters and bugs and survive.

[captrandom]

poor kid...

Only thing I can do is hope that prison is just as brutal to those 4...

 

[Airwolf]

The stories were big local news, but just never made it national.

Not necessarily. You have to remember that over the years the standard of what  child abuse is and how it is investigated has changed and how it is prosecuted when warrented. These people shouldn't have had access to a dog let alone had care of a 10 year old child.