Our brainwashing isn't working- youth still turning rethuglican

[I_B_Perky]

Funny thing about that dummy... once you get out of HS or college, start a family, start paying taxes etc, you tend to change your mind. When you are standing in the line at the grocery store/drug store and see the losers that you went to HS/college with, still being losers, buying steak and beer, with free cell phones, free medical, free housing, driving nice cars and you just know that you are paying for it, while you are eating hamburger and counting dollars and pennies, you really tend to change your mind.

Then you work hard and get some raises... except sometime you will get a raise and then end up taking home less because it put you in a higher tax bracket and then you really change your mind.

The conservatives don't have to recruit... you people do that for us.

[BattleHymn]

DUmmies, look no further for your answer (conveniently put into pictures to engage your infinitesimal attention spans):











Not having a job gives you lots of time to think about your choices in life, and how they ultimately affect you.   

[FreeBorn]

"But on the other hand, this particular strain of right wing douchebaggery seems to be much more subversive than in the past. Even members of my generation (I'm 23) who would identify themselves as liberal (socially, at least) seem to have a very snobbish attitude towards taxes and the poor ("why should MY tax dollars go towards people who don't feel like working?). My fear is that right wing politics will continue to entice the innate selfishness within each new generation, and trap them in as voters."

 

Rewriting the definition of precocious. "Much more subversive than in the past". Like way back when you were 20 1/2?
All grode up at 23, wow! More like still sh!tting high school lunch and asking dad for the car keys on Saturday night.

[miskie]

You know what 'traps them in' ?

Reality.

The world is not all sunshine and flowers, and one needs to do what is necessary to secure one's families future. This is why liberals almost always 'convert' with age. Those who don't are not behaving rationally. 

Most of these grown up liberals become Libertarians. And many Libertarians make up the TEA parties. Chew on that for a while, primitives. 

[Karin]

sometime you will get a raise and then end up taking home less because it put you in a higher tax bracket and then you really change your mind.

  OH that's a BITCH.  That happened to me, but it was a combination of taxes and medical insurance (thanks obamacare).  Was I pissed.  What a disappointment! 

[Rebel]

Hey, lurking DUmbasses, wanting to keep more of your own, and read this properly, EARNINGS, isn't being selfish. It's wanting to benefit from your own labor.


One more thing, "charity" isn't you fools electing other fools into office to plunder the people's wealth to hand out to people that didn't earn it. That's theft and you don't give a damn about people who are destitute. You only care that they can vote.

[GOBUCKS]

sometime you will get a raise and then end up taking home less because it put you in a higher tax bracket

I don't think that's possible. The higher bracket is marginal. If I get a $1000 raise, and it puts me into a 99% tax bracket, I still have at least $10 more take home pay.

Now, if my medical insurance premium also goes up, I could have less take home pay, but still at least $10 more than it would have been
without the raise.

Not an accountant. Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never added to my gross without seeing some small increase in my net.
I stand fully in support of a vastly higher gross income for me, and I'll let take home pay look out for itself.

[Rebel]

I don't think that's possible. The higher bracket is marginal. If I get a $1000 raise, and it puts me into a 99% tax bracket, I still have at least $10 more take home pay.

Now, if my medical insurance premium also goes up, I could have less take home pay, but still at least $10 more than it would have been
without the raise.

Not an accountant. Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never added to my gross without seeing some small increase in my net.
I stand fully in support of a vastly higher gross income for me, and I'll let take home pay look out for itself.

You're talking about the top bracket. If you make 83000, you pay 20750 (25%), and your net is 62250. If you get a 1000 dollar raise, putting you at 84000, you're in another bracket and pay 23520(28%), netting you 60480. Your 1000 dollar raise screwed you out of 1770, 2770 if you count in raise that wasn't to be.

http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm

[GOBUCKS]

You're talking about the top bracket. If you make 83000, you pay 20750 (25%), and your net is 62250. If you get a 1000 dollar raise, putting you at 84000, you're in another bracket and pay 23520(28%), netting you 60480. Your 1000 dollar raise screwed you out of 1770, 2770 if you count in raise that wasn't to be.

http://www.moneychimp.com/features/tax_brackets.htm

Nope. You only pay the 28% on the amount over $83600. Check out the example given on the page you linked to.
 
When you go to a higher bracket, the higher percentage is only applied to the money that exceeds the lower threshhold for that  bracket.

Maybe I'm wrong, but if so, I may have to check out the wi-fi in Leavenworth.

[FreeBorn]

  OH that's a BITCH.  That happened to me, but it was a combination of taxes and medical insurance (thanks obamacare).  Was I pissed.  What a disappointment! 

But doesn't it make you feel all warm & fuzzy inside knowing that through your sacrifice you are doing your part to fulfill the entitlements of 30 million illegal aliens, comrade?

[I_B_Perky]

I don't think that's possible. The higher bracket is marginal. If I get a $1000 raise, and it puts me into a 99% tax bracket, I still have at least $10 more take home pay.

Now, if my medical insurance premium also goes up, I could have less take home pay, but still at least $10 more than it would have been
without the raise.

Not an accountant. Maybe I'm missing something here, but I've never added to my gross without seeing some small increase in my net.
I stand fully in support of a vastly higher gross income for me, and I'll let take home pay look out for itself.

I ain't an accountant neither but I know it's possible cause it has happened to me. There are other taxes to consider too, not just the fed. You got state, FICA, Medicare, local taxes to consider. Especially if your local tax is not a percentage, but a table. Not to mention if your organization has decided that if you make x dollars, you put in y dollars for insurance, retirement, etc. 

All I can say is that it happened to me more than once.