Our brainwashing isn't working- youth still turning rethuglican

[Tucker]

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Search and Destroy (41 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 07:20 AM
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Do do you think that contemporary right wing politics will die out with the older generation? Or ...
   
will the next generation just take its place? Younger generations always seem to be more liberal, so presumably as the older, more conservative generation dies out, the younger liberal generation will take its place, resulting in a more liberal overall electorate.

But on the other hand, this particular strain of right wing douchebaggery seems to be much more subversive than in the past. Even members of my generation (I'm 23) who would identify themselves as liberal (socially, at least) seem to have a very snobbish attitude towards taxes and the poor ("why should MY tax dollars go towards people who don't feel like working?). My fear is that right wing politics will continue to entice the innate selfishness within each new generation, and trap them in as voters.

Dirty freeper troll stirring up a hornets nest.

Possumpoint (881 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 07:26 AM
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1. Remember The Old Joke
   
Funny how the broad minds and narrow waists of youth change places with age.

That doesn't hold true with everyone but there is enough truth in it.

JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 07:49 AM
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5. How many people in your age group have only heard RW criticisms of taxes and the poor?
   
Almost all of them.

How many have had any sort of deliberate education on what liberal ideals and policies are, and what they do. What the real numbers say, and not just what the opposition says?

Versus how many who have picked up their liberalism "by osmosis", and really can't tell where their local peeves and prejudices (of class, location, etc.) leave off and where liberalism begins?

I think one of the things we need most are "Sunday schools" for liberalism, to at least provide some foundation on the basics.

Not on Sunday. You have Monday through Friday as your liberal indoctrination period. That's when DUmbasses like Pritchett casts her spell.

robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 07:55 AM
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7. As older people die off, other people will take their place.
   
We'll always have a right wing.

Get use to it.

RevStPatrick Donating Member (301 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 07:56 AM
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8. I'm 48 and I'm shocked at how conservative my generation...
   
...has become.
Seriously, I'm a member of a generation of douche-bags, and I find it rather embarrassing.
I spend a lot of time with people in their 20's and early 30's, and I like that generation.
Maybe your generation won't fall into the same douche-traps...

no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 08:20 AM
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12. I know what you mean. "Kids" of my generation traded Woodstock for Reagan in a flash.
   
A decade before 1980 they were in the streets marching against "the Establishment" which was left of Reagan and the next thing you knew, they cut their hair, voted conservative, and kept voting conservative. Reagan tapped into their penchant for a new addiction: money.

drpepper67 (165 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 08:42 AM
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15. What's the answer?
   
When people say;

"why should MY tax dollars go towards people who don't feel like working?

How do you respond?

You knuckle dragging ConservativeCave dweller. Why do you make fun of me?

OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 09:23 AM
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22. It is younger Republicans who are Tea Party. Unless we get a
   
real Democratic party, the Republicans will have
reached their goal--50 years of Conservative Control.

They are serious about this and Democrats do not seem
to be concerned.

All your youths are belong to us.

[dandi]

RevStPatrick Donating Member (301 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Wed Jul-27-11 07:56 AM
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8. I'm 48 and I'm shocked at how conservative my generation...
   
...has become.
Seriously, I'm a member of a generation of douche-bags, and I find it rather embarrassing.
I spend a lot of time with people in their 20's and early 30's, and I like that generation.
Maybe your generation won't fall into the same douche-traps...

You're a pathetic old DUmmie that is cruising the younger group for a shot of ass.  Try and at least be honest.

[Rebel]

Possumpoint (881 posts) Wed Jul-27-11 07:26 AM
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1. Remember The Old Joke
   
Funny how the broad minds and narrow waists of youth change places with age.

That doesn't hold true with everyone but there is enough truth in it.

Yeah, it is funny, ain't it? Funny how people tend to become more and more conservative with age, and the wisdom it entails. Funny how NO CULTURE, ancient or otherwise, turned the job of teachers of wisdom over to a bunch of f'n kids 20 years out of the womb. They had hardly any f'n experience, experience that can normally only come with age.

Funny how it works, ain't it, DUmbass? What you call "enlightenment and open-mindedness" we call youthful naivety and, if it takes hold through the later years, bordering on insanity.

[Ralph Wiggum]

no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Wed Jul-27-11 08:20 AM
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12. I know what you mean. "Kids" of my generation traded Woodstock for Reagan in a flash.
   
A decade before 1980 they were in the streets marching against "the Establishment" which was left of Reagan and the next thing you knew, they cut their hair, voted conservative, and kept voting conservative. Reagan tapped into their penchant for a new addiction: money.

It's called growing up.  Most of you DUmmies should look into that.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

There is no logical reason for anyone born after Roe to be a Dem.

[Tucker]

Wonder why no one has quoted Winston Churchill?

For the lurking DUmmies, I'll do it for you.

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

[jukin]

Don't worry the NEA and all the various teacher unions are doing their best to make our children beeeelllliiiieeeeeeeevvveee 1+1=POTATO.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Dear DUmmorrhoids,

When it appears to youth that things aren't going to work out so well for them in the current regime, they will go in the opposite direction.  Since America has been under an increasingly Liberal regime since Kennedy, that doesn't bode well for you Progtards. 

For instance, much as you all love to call the Nazis right-wing (Not accurate, but let's just spot you that one for the sake of argument), they displaced the rather Liberal Weimar regime because it was the youth and young adults who saw themselves being the loser and bill-payers.   

Then there was the French Revolution, a favorite wet dream of you Libs.  Sure, it started out as a hard move to Liberal values - The Rights of Man and all that vs. monarchy - but it rather quickly devolved into a chaotic Leftist bloodbath, and so the YOUNG population swung behind a regime which is your very nightmare concept of Right-wing rule (Again, not a particularly accurate description of the Empire in modern political terms, but one I'm sure you all buy). 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Dear DUmmorrhoids...

That's the problem with you DAT. You're a "conservative"...you seek to conserve the lessons of history.

Progressives need progress, man! They need to step forward, to lurch suddenly headlong. There are 360 degrees, 6400 mils! Why limit yourself to just one! To hell with maps. Maps were drawn by imperialists for imperialists. You have to be willing to step out on your own because progress means leaving teh past behind. We're smart enough and better enough to make it on our own!!!

[Rebel]

But what they view is "progress" is just retreading an old ideology created by Karl Marx in the 1800's. Marxism isn't that much younger than Capitalism, yet between the two only one has been a major success that's brought countless people out of destitution and into prosperity.

[DumbAss Tanker]

That's the problem with you DAT. You're a "conservative"...you seek to conserve the lessons of history.

I'm just nutty that way.

 

[Skul]

You're a pathetic old DUmmie that is cruising the younger group for a shot of ass.  Try and at least be honest.

That's just a part of it.
He also scores free weed because the kids think it's funny to get "gramps", stoned.

[Ballygrl]

will the next generation just take its place? Younger generations always seem to be more liberal, so presumably as the older, more conservative generation dies out, the younger liberal generation will take its place, resulting in a more liberal overall electorate.

Leftists are aborting their future generation of leftists.

[Ballygrl]

Yeah, it is funny, ain't it? Funny how people tend to become more and more conservative with age, and the wisdom it entails. Funny how NO CULTURE, ancient or otherwise, turned the job of teachers of wisdom over to a bunch of f'n kids 20 years out of the womb. They had hardly any f'n experience, experience that can normally only come with age.

Funny how it works, ain't it, DUmbass? What you call "enlightenment and open-mindedness" we call youthful naivety and, if it takes hold through the later years, bordering on insanity.

“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

Winston Churchill

[Tucker]

Leftists are aborting their future generation of leftists.

H5

Of all the comments both here and at the Dump, this was never brought up.

I would love to burn a mole and mention this.

[Ballygrl]

H5

Of all the comments both here and at the Dump, this was never brought up.

I would love to burn a mole and mention this.

I'd say in most cases ideology is inherited, it makes sense, leftists believe in abortion more than those who are right or even middle of the road.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Leftists are aborting their future generation of leftists.

As long as they're entrenched in academia and journalism, they'll ensure there are new ones to replace the child-hating losers who die off.

[Evil_Conservative]

I spend a lot of time with people in their 20's and early 30's, and I like that generation.

You probably wouldn't enjoy spending time with me.

[Duke Nukum]

How many have had any sort of deliberate education on what liberal ideals and policies are, and what they do.

You know, I have been reading you DUmmies for years and still have no idea what your ideals and policies are except to take from someone else and keep for yourself.

Other than hate, what is at the core of DUmmie-liberal philosophy?

[GOBUCKS]

Other than hate, what is at the core of DUmmie-liberal philosophy?

Dope, and killing infants.

[Chris_]

How many have had any sort of deliberate education on what liberal ideals and policies are, and what they do.

We know exactly what they are... or at least the end result.

[Tucker]

You know, I have been reading you DUmmies for years and still have no idea what your ideals and policies are except to take from someone else and keep for yourself.

Other than hate, what is at the core of DUmmie-liberal philosophy?

If you can stomach it, watch the movie "Reds." It describes them to a tee.

[Chris_]

If you can stomach it, watch the movie "Reds." It describes them to a tee.

Robert Redford?  Which side was he on?

[Duke Nukum]

Robert Redford?  Which side was he on?

Warren Beatty. I caught the end of the movie again about 6 months ago and  I was shocked. The Reds were America-bashing to the Muslims right from the start if Beatty portrayed it with any accuracy.

He plays some famous American commie journalist who covers the Bolshevik revolution.

[Ballygrl]

As long as they're entrenched in academia and journalism, they'll ensure there are new ones to replace the child-hating losers who die off.

I think the brainwashing is temporary though in most cases, when they get out into the real world they'll go back to their political roots.