This is a long thread, but it's kind of nice, how it builds to a crescendo, and finally ends almost as well as the legendary radioactive milk threads.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:01 PM
Original message
If this president plays this game, he's lost the election
yes, it is that simple.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1541134What's simple, nutcase? What? Please, oracle, please tell us, what game?
MineralMan (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
10. That's my question, too.
I hate non-specific OPs that don't bother to tell me what I'm supposed to be outraged about. What's the name of the game this time?
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #1
20. The Grand Compromise
ss cuts, you know giving the farm.
mzmolly (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #1
29. Tiddlywinks?
Nope. This is nutcase nadin, remember? It's tiddy-bity.
leftstreet (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
2. He can do this BECAUSE he has no credible rival
We're ****ed
Up
Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #2
52. Credible contenders can appear seemingly out of thin air. Obama himself was one.
I beg to differ. He was black, not credible. Being black is enough for a democrat candidate.
BlueIris (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #2
93. I can think of half a dozen "credible" rivals off the top of my head.
Virtually any non-Republican is more credible than he is at this point.
Kootch, Sanders, Grayson...any of those will do.
Autumn (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
3. It really is that simple.
he goes down this road and allows cuts to SS and medicare he will lose.
Sounds like another case of a socialist losing because he wasn't liberal enough.
(Does anyone wonder if that has ever actually happened?)
Mimosa (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #3
36. Can't you just see the Rethug TV commercials?
*Cue scary music* Show film of old woman in darkness pouring milk in her cereal bowl. Milk quits flowing. Carton is empty.
Female Narrator: "HE cut our Social Security..."
No counter ads will work.
Quick, someone get this to Mission Control!
LiberalLoner (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:03 PM
Response to Original message
4. Maybe that's how it's meant to be, by the powers that control everything. Maybe it
was predestined he would play it like this and then lose. I still say he's being blackmailed, maybe by Murdoch, maybe by something far more sinister. Maybe the powers that be, have threatened his life or the life of his children. I could see something like that happening in America, I think there are forces that I know nothing about, that shape our politics, that are sinister forces.
No! Not the little girls, Katusha and Minutia!
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. If that is the case, come clean Mr. President
lose your AG on these powers and TELL US. The power to blackmail is given to those who stay in the shadows...
That is a lesson that few know actually...
No, he was and is a Blue Dog.
Does this post make sense? What in hell is nutcase trying to say?
Here come the bullies!
MineralMan (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:04 PM
Response to Original message
5. You are incorrect, whatever you might be referring to this time.
It is that simple.
You have offered no context whatsoever in your post.
MADem (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #7
18. I have no idea, either. It's getting tiresome.
MADem (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:27 PM
Response to Reply #26
32. My lying TV is telling me "No deal, not even close" so I don't understand all of this
nonsensical "Let's assume the WORST, even without evidence" posturing.
LOL at the Chicken Little remark, btw!!!
JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. I have no problem with folks being concerned ...
All of this scary ...
And so, threads that advocate for calling your reps, emailing the white house to let them know what you want ... all good!!!
Its all the DU knee-jerk screaming that I'm tired of ... if Obama burps, its because he hates the left. That is the nonsense I complain about.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. Then I suggest the ignore feature if it bothers you so much...
I mean it is not like the Democratic party is ONE group... it is a COALITION.
Here, I will help you, and point it is to your right, under the post. Use it, will improve this place immensely for ya!
JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #39
48. Nope. I don't ignore anyone.
Never have, never will.
And for you to advocate for IGNORE, says much more about YOU.
Let me explain ... if I wanted to ignore the knee-jerk DU folks, I'd LEAVE DU.
Pretending they don't exist is for cowards. I've never ignored anyone on DU, including a few who made physical threats. I mocked them.
YOU seem to need ignore. I don't.
Now he's done it. You never diss the iggy list.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #48
53. Whatever dude... if it bothers you so much
whatever...
And knee jerk, whatever, This is going the same way as the we have a public option in the health care bill negotiations, the same fracking way. So you want us to take it laying down again? By the way, here is a reality.... one party is becoming the party of business, the other is the party of crazee. Politics in this sense, traditional politics, don't work anymore.
They don't care about "the base," and who put them in place. This is what is called the environment for transformative politics,
Also kindly RE READ THE FRACKING OP... IF THIS PRESIDENT PLAYS THIS GAME.
Can you read? Can you comprehend? Can you understand, that is IF... a conditional clause.
And I will suggest again that you picky up a fracking history book or two and realize history has cycles. We are in the middle of a predictable cycle in US Politics... in fact it happens every three generations or so... If you do not know that, well it is pretty high end political history of the US.
Know-it-all nadin, for whom grammar and spelling are foreign concepts, explains a conditional clause?
JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #53
58. Again ...
with the condescending response.
Look ... let's pretend you are RIGHT ... "We are in the middle of a predictable cycle in US Politics... in fact it happens every three generations or so" ...
Ok, let's say that is TRUE!!!!!
You SCREAMING that its true helps NO ONE!!!!
What do you think ... a hundred million Americans will figure out the SECRET books that YOU recommend, and go read them???????
You have been condescending directly to me in 2 or 3 posts ... stick with it ... it works for you.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #58
70. I will be as condescending to you as you have been.
DUmmy sendero gets down to the heart of the matter:
sendero (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #58
94. He's condescending ..
... because you are an idiot, really simple. he might be too nice to say so but I'm not, you are a fool.
We've seen this game plan over and over and over. If you are too ****ing thick to get it, that is your problem, idiot.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #43
47. Whatever, what is happening in the US is the perfect setup
for a transformative era, It is also the perfect transformation of one party into an establishment party, and the other into a radical party.
At that point CONVENTIONAL politics stop working.
If you cannot see that whatever. Feel free to IGNORE all I post... please do. I won't, you at times provide interesting analysis. but on this let me restate this... WHOEVER GIVES UP ON SS AND MEDICARE CAN AND WILL LOSE THE ELECTION. THE CURRENT PRESIDENT IS NOT EXCEPTED FROM THAT REALITY. AND IF YOU ARE TIRED OF THESE KINDS OF THREADS, WHY NOT USE THE IGNORE POSTER OR HIDE THREAD FEATURES? They will improve your DU experience immensely.
As to the NYT... it is still considered the paper of record, even after Judith Miller.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #90
91. I don't get history... what do you think my Masters is in?
Free clue, it has all to do with history, and my minor has all to do with civics... now that was FUNNY... HILARIOUS in fact.
Have a good day.
Oh and we are as exceptional and chosen as the citizens of Rome believed the Empire was oh circa third century. Then there were some, among them Cicero, that pointed out Rome was not.
Welcome to the iggy list.
nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 05:12 PM
Response to Original message
16. I love stalkers... sarcasm
for the stalker in the thread, if he has not been paying attention to the NOOZ... this is about Social Security and Medicare the grand deal and CUTS. WATCH SOME FRACKING NOOZ... and stop the stalking behavior... by the way, I will alert my own thread, and alert the MODS to your behavior. Damn you are worst at this point than my shadow, Perhaps you are the new shadow!
Nutcase nadin is going all SDuderstadt on these bullies! I knew SDuderstadt, Sduderstadt was a friend of mine...
LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Thu Jul-21-11 06:11 PM
Response to Original message
55. There's also going to be radioactive milk because of the Fukushima disaster.