Which President do you blame for the recession?

[Freeper]

kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jul-14-11 07:20 AM
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Which President do you blame for the recession?
   
They just showed a poll on Morning Joe with this question.

54% said George W Bush and 27% said Barack Obama. The people have not forgotten.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1487432

This has legs the repukes are toast, toast I tell you!!!!!!111111

Actually Kentuck, it's not going to matter in the least who is blamed for the start of this thing, it's going to matter what 0bama has done to fix it, and his record aint looking too good. If by 1984 unemployment was still up, and the country was about broke, no one would have cared that Jimmy screwed things up, they would have thrown Reagan out on his ass too.

FBaggins (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jul-14-11 08:16 AM
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7. Blaming Bush doesn't mean that you don't blame Obama
   
Just about everyone knows that it's Bush's fault... But that's not relevant for the next election.

Just poll "is Obama the man to fix it?"

That number is likely falling weekly.

It's not totally Bush's fault, yes he did some things that were wrong, but Pelosi and Reid helped him big time from 2007 to 2009. Then 0bama came in and they really went to town. Now the GOP is trying to pull that car out of the ditch, and 0bama is sipping on a slurpee.

JoePhilly (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jul-14-11 08:26 AM
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11. The sad thing is that the recession started in Dec 2007 and yet 27%
   
blame Obama for it.

Hummm ... 27% .... wasn't Bush's final approval number about 27%?

And who had the house and senate in 2007?

scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jul-14-11 11:26 AM
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28. a recession is defined as two straight quarters of negative GDP growth
   
The recession began in 4th quarter of 2007 and ended in summer of 2009.

So it was all Bush.

Wow 0bama fixed the recession in mere months. Amazing. 

Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jul-14-11 11:57 AM
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31. It isn't black and white
   
The recession is Bush's, entirely.

Some of the attempted remedies are Obama's.

Dude, you just admitted 0bama is failing.

Wounded Bear (582 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jul-14-11 03:56 PM
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39. It will always be the "Bush Recession" to me.....nt

And if I decide that green is really orange to me, does that make green orange?

[DLR Pyro]

Wounded Bear (582 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jul-14-11 03:56 PM
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39. It will always be the "Bush Recession" to me.....nt

wounded bear will always be an idiot to me....nt

[DefiantSix]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1487432

This has legs the repukes are toast, toast I tell you!!!!!!111111

...It's not totally Bush's fault, yes he did some things that were wrong, but Pelosi and Reid helped him big time from 2007 to 2009. Then 0bama came in and they really went to town. Now the GOP is trying to pull that car out of the ditch, and 0bama is sipping on a slurpee.

And who had the house and senate in 2007? ...

The only thing I hold President Bush responsible for is for not vetoing every excessive spending bill and Dhimmi'Rat wet dream to come out of the Cess pool on the Potomac, from 2001 onwards. (Patriot Act and No Child's Behind Left Alone Act inclusive.)

[Happy Fun Ball]

That does it. They've convinced me to never vote for Bush as president again.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

The pelosi recession is becoming the Obama depression.

[Freeper]

That does it. They've convinced me to never vote for Bush as president again.

Me too! And 0bama has convinced me never to vote for him either. I was convinced in 2008 not too, but he reinforced my reasons not too.

[Carl]

I take it they are still upset about the Clinton recession of 2000 as well?

[franksolich]

I dunno.

Between January 2001 and January 2007, life was pretty good.

Or maybe that was just me.

[DumbAss Tanker]

The structural problems that gave rise to it go back to the Great Society and before, and Clinton's DOJ really poured gas on the fire with their aggressive punishment of banks that actually wanted to make only loans that had a reasonable chance of being paid. 

But, ultimately, Bush failed to foresee where that was going and take steps to prevent it when he had the Congressional majority to try.  Of course he was 'somewhat distracted' by 9/11 and the subsequent wars, but since it happened on his watch, he will inevitably get a large share of the blame for it.  Obama is shaping up to get a pretty big amount himself, for making it longer and deeper than anyone thought possible at the time of his coronation.

[DefiantSix]

I dunno.

Between January 2001 and January 2007, life was pretty good.

Or maybe that was just me.

I hit a bump in the road in the 2002 recession, but it wasn't real big.  Not nearly as bad as the cliff my life fell off after January 2009.

[zeitgeist]

The structural problems that gave rise to it go back to the Great Society and before, and Clinton's DOJ really poured gas on the fire with their aggressive punishment of banks that actually wanted to make only loans that had a reasonable chance of being paid. 

But, ultimately, Bush failed to foresee where that was going and take steps to prevent it when he had the Congressional majority to try.  Of course he was 'somewhat distracted' by 9/11 and the subsequent wars, but since it happened on his watch, he will inevitably get a large share of the blame for it.  Obama is shaping up to get a pretty big amount himself, for making it longer and deeper than anyone thought possible at the time of his coronation.

George W Hoover and  Barack Hussein Roosevelt?

[compaqxp]

Which President do you blame for the recession?

I blame Taylor. Why? Because I can. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

George W Hoover and  Barack Hussein Roosevelt?

Way it's going, I don't think Obama is gonna benefit from the economy having two terms to turn around in spite of him, let alone four.

[Jason]

I think the question is idiotic.  Presidents get way too much blame when times are bad economically and way too much credit when times are good.

[Chris_]

I blame Wilson.  He's the one that started all this shit to begin with.

[I_B_Perky]

That does it. They've convinced me to never vote for Bush as president again.

 

[JohnnyReb]

As for me, I blame Chris Dodd and Bonnie Fwank. They protected Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae from any accounting for years... setting up the dominoes for failure when the democrats needed them to fall so they could take complete control of government.

...but as to presidents, I blame F.D.R. and L.B.J..

[true_blood]

It's not totally Bush's fault, yes he did some things that were wrong, but Pelosi and Reid helped him big time from 2007 to 2009. Then 0bama came in and they really went to town.

How true that is. It did start under Bush. The communist, I mean, democrat party, are to blame for most of it during that time.
Then, enter the American-hating, communist community organizer and things went to shit really fast and got much, much worse.

[GOBUCKS]

kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Thu Jul-14-11 07:20 AM
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Which President do you blame for the recession?
   
They just showed a poll on Morning Joe with this question.

54% said George W Bush and 27% said Barack Obama.

That's amazing, and it's awful news for the democrat party.
 
I would have bet the farm that at least 90% of the PMSNBC audience would
lay every bad thing on earth at the feet of George W. Bush.

[USA4ME]

Even if the poll is accurate, it means nothing.  The bluegrass primitive is under the false impression that voters will vote based upon 4 years ago as opposed to today.  Never gonna happen.

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[Splashdown]

I blame Wilson.  He's the one that started all this shit to begin with.

Nah. Jefferson. That Louisiana Purchase thing cost WAY too much.

[Mr Mannn]

Who you blame for the recession is moot. It will not even affect the vote.

The DUmmie really should be asking, "Who do you trust to FIX the economy?"
Now that is a question that will generate votes.

History can answer this question.
When the gulf oil crisis hit...Obama went on vacation 3 times. What did he do to fix it? Zip. Nada. Nothing.

The budget crisis was known months ago. Did the president step in to help? Or did he show at the last minute and storm out the room?

Democrats do not understand that people are watching them this time.

[MrsSmith]

The roots of the current recession have a lot to do with Carter's Community Reinvestment Act.  Clinton helped it along by his "refinement" of that Act, and by his weak stance on terror which allowed 9/11 to be set up, and his military reductions.  Bush can only be blamed for not pushing through the required fixes to Fanny and Freddie, though one supposes he felt the war on terror took precedence and so decided he couldn't afford the cries of "racist" that would have ensued from any meaningful repair of those boondoggles.

It's just sad that we have so many professional politicians that are so totally unable to do basic math.  It those dollars were all campaign dollars, I'll be their math skills would suddenly work.  

[Wineslob]

I dunno.

Between January 2001 and January 2007, life was pretty good.

Or maybe that was just me.

Yes, yes it was. The company I work for gained gross sales every year. Usually by 2-3 million a year. We got good raises, bought new machinery, etc...But now, I have not had a raise in the last 3 years...............sales continue to slump, we are "pulling up the bootstraps", I wonder why, DUmmies?