unappellated eohippus takes it personally

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1476323

Oh my.

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:30 PM
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I am almost 50 years old with a chronic health condition.

I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in my lifetime on insurance premiums, copays, and things that the insurance didn't cover.

The payment of that money has greatly affected my life and the creature comforts in my life, especially noticeable as I grow older.

I have stayed in abusive work relationships STRICTLY for the insurance...no other reason.

I have paid close to $900 a month in premiums for COBRA insurance.

The ONE beacon at the end of the tunnel was...that when I was 65 I wouldn't have to worry about qualifying for insurance, or working through an illness to stay employed--or, if I couldn't do that--at least I wouldn't have to pay astronomical fees for COBRA insurance.

Medicare was the light at the end of my tunnel...and after the long, hard journey I have taken through my adult years with this illness...the promise of Medicare is evaporating before my eyes.

So yeah...I take this REALLY personally....even though I know that my story and my situation is repeated many times throughout this country and is not unique.

ANY politician that DARES to touch Medicare...will NOT have my vote or my support.

fascisthunter  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:33 PM
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1. Some Folks have no Shame

When I hear people state some cuts will need to be made, I imagine folks like you in your situation and am blown away by the audacity.

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #1
 
4. Thank you.

I feel like I have earned that respite.

I have maxed out TWO policies that were capped at $1 million apiece.

I've born a good part of that cost too...and many times, the stress of keeping myself insured was more stress than the illness.

femmocrat  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:34 PM
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2. I am hanging on my by fingernails waiting to go on Medicare! 

And dammit, it better be there when I turn 65! We need to be very vocal on this and write, call, organize, whatever it takes!

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #2
 
7. Our stories are not unique which makes me think they might have overstepped just a tad.

Hang in there sis!

WonderGrunion  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:34 PM
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3. What if they just cut fraud and overpayments to insurers and don't touch benefits in any way like President Obama did with the Affordable Care Act?

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #3

6. Honestly the majority of that has already been done

In fact...republicans involved in hospital corporations have shown to be the biggest abusers of the fraud...ie...Bill Frist.

There are actually policies in place now that makes it much more difficult (although not impossible)for the fraud to incur.

It is definitely a red herring, IMHO.

W_HAMILTON  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:40 PM
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5. I support you.

I will never vote for anyone that pushes back the Medicare eligibility age under the current system where people are basically just trying to hold out to get to 65 so they can finally get healthcare insurance and get the medical care they have deserved all along.

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:44 PM
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8. Thank you!

I've missed every cent that has been pulled from my paycheck and I could have put it to better use than our government did.

Wait Wut  (919 posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:49 PM
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9. I'm in the same boat...sort of.

I don't have insurance. No COBRA. I make "too much" to qualify for aid. I suffered a minor stroke a few months ago (truly screwed up my short-term memory...ugh). I'm losing my eyesight, have heart palpitations and chest pains (had heart attack at 34) and to add to the fun...fibromyalgia which isn't fatal, but damned annoying.

I'm 46. I probably won't survive to 65, much less 67. My fight is not for myself but for others. I'm not willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater and say I "won't vote for...". Instead, I'm going to remain calm (I can't afford not to) and wait to see what comes of this. If they extend the age to 67, I'll be glad the Rs didn't get a chance to take it away completely and then I'll focus on the coming elections.

I'm confident enough to have faith that our President knows what he's doing. Changes may need to be made, may not. I'm not privileged enough to have all the inside info on our countries finances and I'm not smart enough to understand some of the info I do have.

I don't believe your light is burning out just yet. My word of advice, relax. You'll need less medical care.

NOTE: Now that I've exposed my medical history to some of you I have some more advice. If you have LOW blood pressure, do NOT take it lightly. I only had one doctor many, many years ago that actually told me to take it seriously. I didn't listen to her. Too late for me to fix most of it, but not for one of you. ---This is an unpaid announcement sponsored by the letter "D"

rbnyc  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:57 PM
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10. It is personal.

Your story reminds me of all the stories that were shared in election 2008 of all the people with no health insurance, with inadequate health insurance, with no access to health care. These stories were told with the promise that things could change for the better and we could have fewer of these stories in our future, not MORE of them.

It is personal.

Well, too bad for the unappellated eohippus.

But one would be more inclined to sympathize with her if she'd been less ecstatic about murdering infants.

So suffer, bitch.

[Freeper]

Gee you would think penis inspecting would have paid well enough to set her for life.
Then again she is a DUmmy and they aren't too good with money.

[Chris_]

2009 called.  It left you a message.

Obama to outline $313 billion in Medicare, Medicaid spending cuts

Under pressure to pay for his ambitious reshaping of the nation's healthcare system, President Obama on Saturday outlined $313 billion in Medicare and Medicaid spending cuts over the next decade to help cover the cost of expanding coverage to tens of millions of America's uninsured.

[BEG]

Wait Wut  (919 posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:49 PM
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9. I'm in the same boat...sort of.

I don't have insurance. No COBRA. I make "too much" to qualify for aid. I suffered a minor stroke a few months ago (truly screwed up my short-term memory...ugh). I'm losing my eyesight, have heart palpitations and chest pains (had heart attack at 34) and to add to the fun...fibromyalgia which isn't fatal, but damned annoying.

I'm 46. I probably won't survive to 65, much less 67. My fight is not for myself but for others. I'm not willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater and say I "won't vote for...". Instead, I'm going to remain calm (I can't afford not to) and wait to see what comes of this. If they extend the age to 67, I'll be glad the Rs didn't get a chance to take it away completely and then I'll focus on the coming elections.

I'm confident enough to have faith that our President knows what he's doing. Changes may need to be made, may not. I'm not privileged enough to have all the inside info on our countries finances and I'm not smart enough to understand some of the info I do have.

I don't believe your light is burning out just yet. My word of advice, relax. You'll need less medical care.

NOTE: Now that I've exposed my medical history to some of you I have some more advice. If you have LOW blood pressure, do NOT take it lightly. I only had one doctor many, many years ago that actually told me to take it seriously. I didn't listen to her. Too late for me to fix most of it, but not for one of you. ---This is an unpaid announcement sponsored by the letter "D"

I had a stroke at the ripe old age of 28 and had no insurance (this was under the glorious leader Bill Clinton 1995). The hospital basically wrote off the bill (all but $1000) but the doctors would not.  I was in ICU for several days, the the hospital a total of a week. Had many many tests including an angiogram. Odd, the hospital never refused me because I didn't have insurance.  They treated me just like anyone else.

We paid for years but WE paid it all off eventually. I took in kids (a total of three) to babysit to help pay off the doctors.  Imagine that, figuring out something I could do to earn money.  There is no way I could get a normal job after my stroke but you do what you have to do.  I also took them with me to my doctor visits.  I was diagnosed with a rare auto immune disease (Takayasu's Arteritis) that caused the stroke. I got on my husbands insurance when the next renewal came, they had to accept me. By this time we really couldn't afford my part of the premium with all the doctor bills we were paying but we did it. We didn't go on vacation, eat out, basically didn't do anything until we paid all the doctors off.

We thought we didn't have the money for the insurance premium so we only covered my husband and kids. We could have cut out a lot of things to afford insurance if we really took it seriously back then. We never thought anything bad would happen. We gambled and lost. I will NEVER go with out insurance ever again. I will not let my kids ever go with out it either.  

I got doctors (one of them the top neurologist in the country as a matter of fact) who saw me every month after my stroke, they knew I didn't have insurance. They worked with me to only perform tests and prescribe medications that were absolutely necessary.  We thought we would never pay the doctors off but we did.

I also have a myriad of of other health issues (all auto immune related). I swear you Democrats seem to be so quick to roll over and die. You guys are this biggest pussies ever.  You are responsible for your health, doctors are willing to be your advocate and work with you...ask them.  

[I_B_Perky]

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:30 PM
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I am almost 50 years old with a chronic health condition. I got several. Get over it.I did.

I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in my lifetime on insurance premiums, copays, and things that the insurance didn't cover. Liar

The payment of that money has greatly affected my life and the creature comforts in my life, especially noticeable as I grow older. Parasite

I have stayed in abusive work relationships STRICTLY for the insurance...no other reason. dumbass. I've said "You want fries with that?" I've dug ditches. I've done shit that I hated just to pay the bills so I could pay for school just to get ahead... and I did it with a smile, showed up every day, and got raises. Every job I have left, except the one I got fired from and I had another job the next day, the boss has always told me that if it didn't work out, come back. Get a skill that is in demand, work harder than everyone else and guess what? Your employer will kiss your ass to keep you.

I have paid close to $900 a month in premiums for COBRA insurance. don't be unemployed. Save your money so when life screws you over you can live

The ONE beacon at the end of the tunnel was...that when I was 65 I wouldn't have to worry about qualifying for insurance, or working through an illness to stay employed--or, if I couldn't do that--at least I wouldn't have to pay astronomical fees for COBRA insurance.

Medicare was the light at the end of my tunnel...and after the long, hard journey I have taken through my adult years with this illness...the promise of Medicare is evaporating before my eyes. I have dealt with medicare for my Dad. You got a damned rude awakening

So yeah...I take this REALLY personally....even though I know that my story and my situation is repeated many times throughout this country and is not unique. only for parasites such as yourself

ANY politician that DARES to touch Medicare...will NOT have my vote or my support. News flash! The free lunch is over. There is no money to pay for your unproductive ass anymore

[Traveshamockery]

I had a stroke at the ripe old age of 28 and had no insurance (this was under the glorious leader Bill Clinton 1995). The hospital basically wrote off the bill (all but $1000) but the doctors would not.  I was in ICU for several days, the the hospital a total of a week. Had many many tests including an angiogram. Odd, the hospital never refused me because I didn't have insurance.  They treated me just like anyone else.

We paid for years but WE paid it all off eventually. I took in kids (a total of three) to babysit to help pay off the doctors.  Imagine that, figuring out something I could do to earn money.  There is no way I could get a normal job after my stroke but you do what you have to do.  I also took them with me to my doctor visits.  I was diagnosed with a rare auto immune disease (Takayasu's Arteritis) that caused the stroke. I got on my husbands insurance when the next renewal came, they had to accept me. By this time we really couldn't afford my part of the premium with all the doctor bills we were paying but we did it. We didn't go on vacation, eat out, basically didn't do anything until we paid all the doctors off.

We thought we didn't have the money for the insurance premium so we only covered my husband and kids. We could have cut out a lot of things to afford insurance if we really took it seriously back then. We never thought anything bad would happen. We gambled and lost. I will NEVER go with out insurance ever again. I will not let my kids ever go with out it either.  

I got doctors (one of them the top neurologist in the country as a matter of fact) who saw me every month after my stroke, they knew I didn't have insurance. They worked with me to only perform tests and prescribe medications that were absolutely necessary.  We thought we would never pay the doctors off but we did.

I also have a myriad of of other health issues (all auto immune related). I swear you Democrats seem to be so quick to roll over and die. You guys are this biggest pussies ever.  You are responsible for your health, doctors are willing to be your advocate and work with you...ask them.  

H5!

And I bet it never occurred to you to think someone else ought to be responsible for your medical bills. 

However, the DUmmies will never understand what you are talking about.  Personal responsibility is a concept they cannot grasp. 

[Skul]

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:30 PM
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I am almost 50 years old with a chronic health condition.

Yes, we know.
One bedroom trailer with roads on three sides.
Glorius studio caked with dust.
The thought just makes you sick, sick, sick.
Go stamp your feet a bit, and clinch your fists.
All will be better.
Here, eat some hay.

[GOBUCKS]

Horse with no Brain claims to have handled ten thousand dicks, and still lives in a single-wide trailer.

She's either been spending a lot on medical bills, or she's one incredibly ugly lady.

But what about her daughter, and what about that falling-down old farmhouse?

[Skul]

Mediacl costs for treating VD, can be daunting.
Perhaps she should try holding them in her hand. 

[diesel driver]

Mediacl costs for treating VD, can be daunting.
Perhaps she should try holding them in her hand. 

She could have gone to the local vet supply store for a 250cc bottle of penicillin and given herself the shot.

I'm sure she could have found a needle and syringe somewhere. 

[Doc Savage]

Medicare can be fixed, and the "cuts" can be obtained thru changes in regulations.  For Example.  Medicare will not pay for home infusion of drugs.  It will pay the pharmacy for the drug, but not for the supplies that are required to infuse the drug.  The patient has to pay for that.  So, instead of the patient paying out of pocket, they go to the hospital for the dose.  The hospital bills, well you know what hospitals bill.  Meanwhile, the company that I work for could do it for a quarter of the cost.  And, the patient does not have to drive back and forth to the hospital once or twice a day for weeks. 

[Ralph Wiggum]

2009 called.  It left you a message.

W00T!  Suck it Horse with No Brain!

to Chris.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Tue Jul-12-11 07:30 PM
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I am almost 50 years old with a chronic health condition.
...blah blah blah blibbity blah...
Medicare was the light at the end of my tunnel...and after the long, hard journey I have taken through my adult years with this illness...the promise of Medicare is evaporating before my eyes.
...crescendo of blah...

So in other words, you're still 17 or 18 years away from it and already counting the days?  Loser bitch.

[oldcrow]

That whole board at DU has a Chronic condition..Being DUmmies 

[jukin]

Wouldn't just be easier if after years of advanced and expensive study, years of working as an intern for little money, if we just made doctors work for free so people that have never accomplished anything could get free medical care and their 22 inch rims and $300 sneakers?

Of course, not the nurses, janitors, technicians, and others in the hospital, they are unionized.

[Tucker]

Did she or did she not say last week that she was offered a position that paid $80 per hour?

[Ralph Wiggum]

Did she or did she not say last week that she was offered a position that paid $80 per hour?

I don't recall that.  But DUmmies lie, right Frank?

[Ralph Wiggum]

Did she or did she not say last week that she was offered a position that paid $80 per hour?

Found it:

Horse with no Name  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jul-09-11 01:19 AM
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I just got a job match. It is in the "private sector" paying $80/hour--40 hour work week.

Although I have a job, I kept myself listed...just in case.

However...this is double the normal pay for what I do.

It is in the private sector.

I can't imagine what it might be, or even better--WHO it might be for...but even for that kind of money, I think I will steer clear.
Something doesn't sound right with this one.

[Tucker]

Found it:

Thanks. I thought I had to go play in the mud.

[franksolich]

I don't recall that.  But DUmmies lie, right Frank?

The unappellated eohippus lies like a cheap greasy slut laying on her back, waiting for entrance.

I've dissected her campfire, and there's some lies there, but they're mostly simply those of exaggeration, and hence not worth laying out.

[Ralph Wiggum]

The unappellated eohippus lies like a cheap greasy slut laying on her back, waiting for entrance.

I've dissected her campfire, and there's some lies there, but they're mostly simply those of exaggeration, and hence not worth laying out.

I highly doubt she's currently getting paid $40/hour.  That number keeps changing depending on the month it seems.

[franksolich]

I highly doubt she's currently getting paid $40/hour.  That number keeps changing depending on the month it seems.

Remember, it was only a couple of years ago Ms. Ed said she made only $24,000 a year, which is right in line with what a keyboardist at a hospital, medical clinic, or abortion factory would make.

She said her share of her medical insurance premiums was $500 a month, and that it was 25% of her income.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Remember, it was only a couple of years ago Ms. Ed said she made only $24,000 a year, which is right in line with what a keyboardist at a hospital, medical clinic, or abortion factory would make.

She said her share of her medical insurance premiums was $500 a month, and that it was 25% of her income.

That's what I thought I remembered, or something like that.  And now she's making $40/hour?

And that's about what our reception staff gets per year...who knows what Horse really does anyway.  Hard to sort out her lies.

[franksolich]

That's what I thought I remembered, or something like that.  And now she's making $40/hour?

And that's about what our reception staff gets per year...who knows what Horse really does anyway.  Hard to sort out her lies.

Here it is; I finally found it.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,1942.0/highlight,unappellated.html

Ms. Ed's the lowest-paid registered nurse in America, it seems, at $24,000 a year.

[Tucker]

Here it is; I finally found it.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,1942.0/highlight,unappellated.html

Ms. Ed's the lowest-paid registered nurse in America, it seems, at $24,000 a year.

I've always believed that she was a CNA. Changing sheets, cleaning potty pans and whatnot.