I hate it when preacher's use a person's funeral to give a

[Freeper]

Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:20 PM
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I hate it when preacher's use a person's funeral to give a
   
sermon to the congregation.

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Ever think maybe the people that were close to that person wanted it that way?
My God, everything is always about the DUmmies and their widdle feelings. 

Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:23 PM
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2. All of the funerals in churches I've ever attended had some sort of a message about
   
about everlasting life, salvation, and that sort of thing.

I don't think it's that unusual.

BTW, there is no apostrophe in the plural of preacher.

originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:34 PM
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10. Everlasting life at a funeral.
   
You'd think the dead person in the box would be exhibit A for mortality, but hey, 'tis our way.

Yeah but spirit chicken guides and white light would be appropriate I bet. 

pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:23 PM
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3. It's a religious service, so what do you expect? Nobody has to have
   
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 06:24 PM by pnwmom
a religious funeral service or memorial. There are alternatives, including have a non-sectarian service at a funeral home -- or anywhere. I knew someone who had a memorial party in a bar!

theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:25 PM
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4. That happens at my Dad's funeral
   
It was infuriating and so disrespectful.

LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:28 PM
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6. Did he have an altar call?
   
I have attended one funeral where the preacher thought it was a good idea to ask the mourners to come to the altar to "repent your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior." I was terribly offended. But, he was the pastor for the family, so I said nothing, gave my good friends a heartfelt hug and left without saying anything about what I thought was a breach of good manners.

How in the hell can one be offended by an altar call? it's not like you have to go or anything. The things that offends these idiots.

dbonds (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 07:05 PM
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15. Every funeral in my family we have told the preacher to absolutely not preach.
   
It is a time for a few comforting words, goodbyes and that's it.

And oddly enough, I bet the fundies in attendance didn't get offended either.

[MrsSmith]

It's common for the preacher to talk to the family about their wishes.  If something offends a DUmmie, it's likely either the family's choice...or the deceased was known to the preacher and requested it.  I definitely want a salvation message and altar call at my service. 

[Duke Nukum]

pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:23 PM
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3. It's a religious service, so what do you expect? Nobody has to have
   
Edited on Tue Jul-12-11 06:24 PM by pnwmom
a religious funeral service or memorial. There are alternatives, including have a non-sectarian service at a funeral home -- or anywhere. I knew someone who had a memorial party in a bar!

What about a "sustainable" service?

[Boudicca]

Hubby and I are on record as wanting as big ol' Irish wake, complete with rivers of booze.  Nevermind that neither of us has much Irish blood running through our veins and arteries.
However, hubby was born the day after St. Patrick's and his mom named him Devin, so it's all good.

[dandi]

I don't think I've ever been to a funeral officiated by a preacher where there wasn't at least a brief message of faith. To a DUmmy though, even the recitation of a Bible verse would be seen as a "sermon". Hearing it was probably like having scalding water thrown in their face.

I don't think I've ever seen an actual altar call at one either, though there's nothing wrong with it if it's what the deceased would want.

LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:28 PM
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6. Did he have an altar call?
   
I have attended one funeral where the preacher thought it was a good idea to ask the mourners to come to the altar to "repent your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior." I was terribly offended. But, he was the pastor for the family, so I said nothing, gave my good friends a heartfelt hug and left without saying anything about what I thought was a breach of good manners.

Only a DUmmy would trivialize and secularize an effort to save someone's soul by trying to equate it to a "breach of good manners". It shows what a total disconnect there is in their understanding of Christianity. Yet they would claim to be a greater authority on it than Christians themselves.

[GOBUCKS]

LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-12-11 06:28 PM
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6. Did he have an altar call?
  
I have attended one funeral where the preacher thought it was a good idea to ask the mourners to come to the altar to "repent your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior."

This is an example of a case where a DUmbass thought the thread was a bouncy tale, and wanted to toss in a secondary bouncy.
Folk's who use apostrophe's to make plural's are too stupid to write good bouncie's.

[FreeBorn]

Show me a smelly hippy sitting through a funeral mass in church and I'll show you a gold digger.

The only reason smelly got his lazy arse out of bed before the crack of noon was because he had to go along to get along. Grandpa or somebody croaked, like he cares. If he doesn't show up then mom & pop might get wrankled, maybe enough to evict him from their basement. Also he probably feels he's got at least a long shot at some sort of inheritance.

He's probably more pissed that he had to wear shoes than because of anything else.

[thelaughingman]

originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Jul-12-11 06:34 PM
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10. Everlasting life at a funeral.
   
You'd think the dead person in the box would be exhibit A for mortality, but hey, 'tis our way.

  Understanding Christianity fail.

[blitzkrieg_17]

I don't think I've ever been to a funeral officiated by a preacher where there wasn't at least a brief message of faith. To a DUmmy though, even the recitation of a Bible verse would be seen as a "sermon". Hearing it was probably like having scalding water thrown in their face.

I don't think I've ever seen an actual altar call at one either, though there's nothing wrong with it if it's what the deceased would want.

Only a DUmmy would trivialize and secularize an effort to save someone's soul by trying to equate it to a "breach of good manners". It shows what a total disconnect there is in their understanding of Christianity. Yet they would claim to be a greater authority on it than Christians themselves.

And leaving a service midway is good manners?  A memorial isn't about you, idiots.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Hubby and I are on record as wanting as big ol' Irish wake, complete with rivers of booze.  Nevermind that neither of us has much Irish blood running through our veins and arteries.
However, hubby was born the day after St. Patrick's and his mom named him Devin, so it's all good.

My step-uncle had instructions to have "Prop Me Up Beside the Jukebox When I Die" played at his funeral.  And we did.

[Vagabond]

It's common for the preacher to talk to the family about their wishes.  If something offends a DUmmie, it's likely either the family's choice...or the deceased was known to the preacher and requested it.  I definitely want a salvation message and altar call at my service. 

Neither of the two preachers at my Granny's funeral asked us.  The first really got into a long sermon and was probably wondering why her family were exchanging glances and smiling, if he noticed.  We thought it would have been just like her to make sure all her brood got one last sermon before she was done.   The second, my cousin, and gave a brief sermon, but he understood what we were all thinking about then.

[NHSparky]

Hubby and I are on record as wanting as big ol' Irish wake, complete with rivers of booze.  Nevermind that neither of us has much Irish blood running through our veins and arteries.
However, hubby was born the day after St. Patrick's and his mom named him Devin, so it's all good.

That's it for me.  Stick my ass in the ground and throw a party afterwards.

[Habsfan]

Strike one for originality! This guy was actually embalmed and positioned sitting on his bike!

Marin Funeral Home in San Juan, displayed the embalmed body of 22-year-old David Morales Colon, in sunglasses and sneakers, crouched astride his Honda Repsol racing bike.

“That must have been neat,” Richard Rosin of the Neil Bardal Funeral Home in Winnipeg, told the Star Monday.

“This is just interesting. It must have been a very important aspect of his life to have the family feel that strongly. Full credit to the funeral company for making it happen.”

Local media covered Morales’s wake last week. Elsie Marin, who with her husband Damaris runs the funeral home, told WAPA television the body was treated with respect. They would do whatever possible to meet a person’s wishes, she said.

Marin has carved out a reputation for unusual treatments at a family’s request. Two years ago, the funeral home managed to keep the corpse of 24-year-old Angel Pantoja Medina of San Juan standing upright in sunglasses and a Yankees baseball cap for his three-day wake in his mother’s living room.

<<<< dead guy

[MoshMasterD]

More DUmmie Deicide

[VivisMom]

My mom's funeral was pretty low-key, which is how she would have wanted it. She wanted to be cremated, but my dad wouldn't listen. 

My husband and BFF have strict instructions: the wake is to have a keg of good beer. I am to have a beer and a cig in my hands instead of a rosary, and after the prayers there is to be music and dancing. After the funeral, they are to go to a bar and have a blast. I want my funeral to be the best party since my wedding reception!

[dandi]

Only a DUmmy would trivialize and secularize an effort to save someone's soul by trying to equate it to a "breach of good manners". It shows what a total disconnect there is in their understanding of Christianity. Yet they would claim to be a greater authority on it than Christians themselves.

The only ones worse are the discordia disconauts.

[debk]

My mom's funeral was pretty low-key, which is how she would have wanted it. She wanted to be cremated, but my dad wouldn't listen. 

My husband and BFF have strict instructions: the wake is to have a keg of good beer. I am to have a beer and a cig in my hands instead of a rosary, and after the prayers there is to be music and dancing. After the funeral, they are to go to a bar and have a blast. I want my funeral to be the best party since my wedding reception!

When M's father died, we had a full funeral Mass. The homily was very short.

After the cemetery, we went to Mike Finks Riverboat on the Ohio river, in Cincinnati, his "hang out". We had the entire bar area, to start, moved to the upstairs dining room for a buffet, then back to the bar. It was definitely a "Celebration of Life"! Started about noon, and I think we left Finks about 6 and continued at another "hang out" still with about 20 people.

At Finks, Papa had a navy blue chair cushion to put on the bar stool, and they kept it behind the bar for him, so he didn't have to bring it with him. That afternoon, we got a vodka tonic - with a lime - in a water tumbler (his "standard" order), put it on a dessert plate, with an unlit cigarette, and a lighter.

We took the plate, and his cushion out onto the dock, and one of the guys knelt down and set the plate afloat on the cushion into the Ohio River. There must have been 30 or more friends of Papa's out on the dock with us, and we all did a toast to him as the cushion was set into the water. 

The cushion floated off the end of the dock. About 8-10 feet away, it was suddenly surrounded by fish. Papa loved to fish. They circled around the cushion and would come to the top of the water and kind of "kiss" it. They were very gentle in their movements around the cushion. The fish drifted away.

The cushion...still with the upright, UNSPILLED drink, cigarette and lighter...continued to float about 10 feet away from the end of the dock.

Some people came by in a boat, and offered to move the cushion out away from the dock into the river's flow. The guy who had put the cushion into the water, got in their boat and they picked up the cushion and moved it out into the river, and brought our friend back to the dock, and left.

We all watched the cushion for a minute or two and went back inside to the bar. The glass was still upright.

Someone happened to notice a paddlewheeler coming down (up?) the river ...right towards the cushion!! We were all at the window, thinking this is it, the boat will hit it. The boat captain must have seen the cushion because he moved the paddlewheeler over, and the cushion must have moved some ....and the boat missed it!!

The glass was still upright!

By this time....the cushion was straight out even with Papa's barstool.....and everyone is watching it.

It floated a bit, then the glass tipped over.

The cushion floated off, and disappeared into the water.

He had one last drink with us, and was gone.

So many faces with tears on their cheeks. No one had ever seen anything like it. It was both spooky and comforting.

Papa was very special.   

[delilahmused]

Hubby and I are on record as wanting as big ol' Irish wake, complete with rivers of booze.  Nevermind that neither of us has much Irish blood running through our veins and arteries.
However, hubby was born the day after St. Patrick's and his mom named him Devin, so it's all good.

I told my husband I was gonna give him a Viking funeral...put him in his drift boat in the middle of our farm pond, douse it with Tequila, and let my sons shoot flaming arrows at it!

Cindie

[FreeBorn]

Hubby and I are on record as wanting as big ol' Irish wake, complete with rivers of booze.  Nevermind that neither of us has much Irish blood running through our veins and arteries.
However, hubby was born the day after St. Patrick's and his mom named him Devin, so it's all good.

Your Irish if you say you are Bouddi.  
I'm full blooded Irish meself, tainted with a wee bit o' scotch. Glennfiddich to be precise, usually on the rocks but sometimes straight from the bottle. In light of the fact that I woke up another year older this morning I believe I may just dust off that bottle!
Anyway, the most outrageous wake I ever heard of was that of a Buffalo restauranteur and nightclub owner with a very colorful reputation, one Kevin Elliott. His full name was Kevin Eugene John Joseph McGuillicutty Elliott but he went by "Boston Billy". He was a tad on the shady side with reputed mob ties and tales of his partying and over the top debauchery were legendary. I saw him around town a few times and he always made a spectacle of himself. One leg was markedly shorter than the other so he wore one of those corrective platform shoes and walked with a cane. He looked like he had just stepped out of ZZ Top's "Sharp Dressed Man" video, always dressed to the nines. Tux with tails, cape, spats, top hat and a pinkie ring the size of a golf ball. Had an entourage around him too, tough looking wiseguy types in suits and a gaggle of hotties. He went everywhere in a limo, a string of limos actually and spent his evenings bar hopping around the city. He would call ahead before arriving at the next bar and order drinks to be poured and on the bar waiting, sometimes hundreds of them because wherever he went the drinks were always on him, drinks for the house.
Guests at his wake were advised in the invitations to be there on time and all were charged $10.00 admission. "Boston Billy" was late for his own funeral though, keeping everyone waiting. Finally his casket was brought in and the party commenced once the casket was opened and wait staff made the rounds depositing salt & pepper shakers on each of the tables, each containing a bit of his ashes so all his friends could take home a little piece of him.