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Forget Global Warming, Prepare for New Ice Age, Says ScientistSunspot activity has not resumed after hitting an 11-year low in March last year, raising fears that - far from warming - the globe is about to return to an Ice Age.Astronaut and geophysicist Phil Chapman, the first Australian to become an astronaut with NASA, said pictures from the U.S. Solar and Heliospheric Observatory showed no spots on the sun.He said the world cooled quickly between January last year and January this year, by about 0.7C."This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record, and it puts us back to where we were in 1930," Dr. Chapman writes in The Australian today."If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over."
No story here. File under Arguments Which Confuse Weather with Climate.
My impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore....
We have heard from the Mountain!When it's warming, it's climate. When it's cooling, it's weather. After all, we don't want to expose liberals as being willfilly stupid and political alarmist.
Quote from: Rebel Yell on April 23, 2008, 10:34:33 AMMy impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore....Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.
I blame Bush.
Quote from: The Night Owl on April 23, 2008, 11:16:01 AMQuote from: Rebel Yell on April 23, 2008, 10:34:33 AMMy impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore....Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.Well, your post does support Al Gore's premise.Hmmm....
My very, very, very young friend, a new Ice Age will NOT be the result of weather.
Quote from: freedumb2003 on April 23, 2008, 11:42:10 AMMy very, very, very young friend, a new Ice Age will NOT be the result of weather.My very condescending friend, Have I argued that any kind of climate change is the result of weather?No.
I would like to have al-Gore in Montana right about now.Over the past weekend we wound up with 7 inches of snow with rather cool temps. The windchill Sat morning was 1 below. That ain't too bad when one considers that Gt Falls had a low temp of 8 BELOW and had over 10 inches of snow.As I sit here, it is snowing AGAIN!
Quote from: Splashdown on April 23, 2008, 11:28:51 AMI blame Bush. Don't forget he's responsible for Marblewarming (*nods to Lord Undies for coining the phrase*) and the lack of sun spots as well.
That's the way I read it.*pat* *pat* Don't get ruffled, pookie. *pat* *pat*
It is generally not possible to draw conclusions about climatic trends from events in a single year, so I would normally dismiss this cold snap as transient, pending what happens in the next few years.
It is time to put aside the global warming dogma, at least to begin contingency planning about what to do if we are moving into another little ice age, similar to the one that lasted from 1100 to 1850.
If the ice age is coming, there is a small chance that we could prevent or at least delay the transition, if we are prepared to take action soon enough and on a large enough scale.
We cannot really know, but my guess is that the odds are at least 50-50 that we will see significant cooling rather than warming in coming decades. The probability that we are witnessing the onset of a real ice age is much less, perhaps one in 500, but not totally negligible.
Quote from: Bluesuiter-Retired on April 23, 2008, 11:56:47 AMI would like to have al-Gore in Montana right about now.Over the past weekend we wound up with 7 inches of snow with rather cool temps. The windchill Sat morning was 1 below. That ain't too bad when one considers that Gt Falls had a low temp of 8 BELOW and had over 10 inches of snow.As I sit here, it is snowing AGAIN!A few days of weather tell us virtually nothing about the climate.
Quote from: lug-nut on April 23, 2008, 11:32:07 AMQuote from: Splashdown on April 23, 2008, 11:28:51 AMI blame Bush. Don't forget he's responsible for Marblewarming (*nods to Lord Undies for coining the phrase*) and the lack of sun spots as well. Well, what can he do about age spots?
Quote from: PatriotGame on April 23, 2008, 11:25:25 AMQuote from: The Night Owl on April 23, 2008, 11:16:01 AMQuote from: Rebel Yell on April 23, 2008, 10:34:33 AMMy impression of TNO when confronted with anything other than, We're all gonna die, there is no God, Democrats are right, Worship Al Gore....Feel free to point out any post in which I've used Al Gore's work as the basis for an argument about global warming or climate change.Well, your post does support Al Gore's premise.Hmmm....He don't need Al Gore to prove his theories, Al Gore needs TNO to prove his.