CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-11-11 06:58 PM
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Is this a possibility?
Edited on Mon Jul-11-11 07:01 PM by CoffeeCat
I don't even believe that the debt ceiling is an issue with the Republicans. I think it's
just kabuki theater and peacock grandstanding--playing the big drama to the masses.
The fact is, Republicans have voted, dozens of times, to raise the debt ceiling. This time, they're
using it to create a big storm of conflict and chaos--in order to get what they want.
I am wondering if all the Republicans REALLY want is to preserve the current tax rates and windfalls
for corporations and the millionaires and billionaires. After all, that's the Republican base. Nearly
everyone in the Republican party is beholden to the wealthy corporations and the yacht-owning sect. Their
tax rates must be held!
All of this talk about cutting and adjusting and saving Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. It's total
political suicide for Obama, and he knows it.
Is it possible that we won't see cuts in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid--but we also won't see changes
in the tax rates for the rich? Will Democrats belt out a ginormous sigh of relief as we are told that there
won't be cuts to entitlements, BUT the rich will retain those unfair tax low tax rates? Will a "win" on Social
Security make us forget about the fact that Obama just extended the Bush tax cuts to the Koch Brothers--one more time?
Is it a possibility that all of these shiny objects and fireworks are designed to distract us from
the fact that our Democratic President may, once again, cater to the corporations and the moneyed elite
while average Americans are sinking?
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1467670And what happened to the republicans when they kept voting the debt ceiling up?
That's right, they found themselves helping to stimulate the economy by collecting unemployment checks in 2006 and 2008.
The DUmmies have no clue that the 2010 election was about the uncontrolled spending, not the GOP and not the Democrats.
The GOP is the party that decided to start giving some lip service to cutting spending if we voted them in. If they cave then the primaries will be brutal and the next GOP majority will have to do the job.
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-11-11 06:59 PM
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1. There will be no deal. The Republicans are going to push the USA into debt default.
It is going to happen.
There will be no default, unless 0bama spends the incoming revenue on his special programs rather than on the debt.
I heard someone today say, that not upping the debt ceiling is an automatic balanced budget amendment.
In other words if they can't spend then we will be forced to live within our means. Which sounds like a great idea.
CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-11-11 07:03 PM
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3. Seriously?
I find that incredible interesting, and of course, devastating.
It's sick when we have to sit around wondering what these corrupt freaks
are doing.
The possibilities are endless.
Why do you think they won't raise the debt ceiling? They don't give a shit about
debt. We know that from their outrageous war spending and other spending that has
exploded the national debt and the budgets every year. It's not something that
concerns them. So, why push us into default?
Simply to further destroy the country?
Not to destroy, but to save our country. This spending has to stop.
tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-11-11 07:01 PM
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2. They've already stated their goal, to make Obama a one-term president.
They don't care what they destroy along the way to that goal, as long as it is not the super rich.
0bama doesn't need the GOP's help to destroy our country.
I just hope the GOP got our message and this won't be a repeat of the 2011 budget let down, (which I argued that it wasn't the end of the world yet).