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Attention DU legal experts!
« on: July 09, 2011, 09:56:32 PM »
Sometimes at DUmmyland one of the inmates will post a thread that pretty much shows exactly what a failure liberalism is. Of course when they do this none of the sooper geniuses ever make the connection.

It is long so I bolded the important parts.

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Attention DU legal experts!
   
Our family has an issue.

I will try to make it as short and to the point as I possibly can.

I have a grandpa that is 89 years old. He lost his beloved wife of over 60 years two years ago. He is a retired solider from the Navy, served career and retired. Served on many ships and has many a war story.

He has 7 kids, one of them who is my Mother.

His youngest daughter has always kind of been a **** up. She never finished HS, is a prescription drug abuser, never has been able to hold a job for long and had a daughter at the age of sixteen whom my grandparents raised until she was 14 and got pregnant herself. Her daughter married a low life herself and has 4 kids. All under my grandparents roof.

Keeping up? :)

Here's a small background... my Grandparents were extremely poor. My grandmother worked into retirement as a hospital operator and my grandfather after his naval retirement worked odd jobs as a painter. They never had much, the house was small paid for but falling apart. My grandfather always had a garden in the back yard where he grew tomatoes out of old toilet bowls and other things he found on the street. He always grew the best squash! They were very simple people. Our family helped financially when we could, getting a new roof on the house several years ago, re-doing and old bathroom. Groceries always... bills etc.

However, the family has been torn apart by this issue of 3 perfectly capable working adults in the house and 4 kids all under 13. All living off my grandpa's SS and military pension.

After my grandmother died, my grandfather started to become depressed and despondent. The people in the house under the guise of "taking care" of him are starting to screw him.

Fast forward. my Mother got a call from grandpa, he was confused... he was getting calls from his bank his house is being for closed on. After some further investigation, my aunt and her crew had talked my grandpa into a refinance after grandma died. What they did with the money we have no idea, but the house payment hasn't been paid in seven months. She even got a power of attorney online and signed it.

After this was uncovered the family sprang into action. Grandpa is with me in my house. The others were asked to leave. The bank will not work with us. He has been moved out and the house is vacant and in foreclosure.

We have started to review his bills and his bank account. STartling!

2300.00 financed for a bed at Ashley furniture

2700.00 for a computer at Best buy

5500.00 for a new fridge ( which isn't in the house ) from Lowe's

Hundreds upon HUNDREDS of dollars pulsed out of his account, for what? I have no idea. A bunch of other shit.

Even more shocking, grandpa injured his back last year in his garden. He is feeling some pain, tried to get his RX filled and guess what? His RX had been fill 27 times in one year!!! 27 times! The pharmacy thinks he's a druggie!

Anyway, my question after all of this is what legal rights do we have? To me this seems like Elder abuse and I am angry! I want to press charges if there are any to my Aunt and her brood! Does grandpa have any legal recourse?

Thank you for reading this post. I know it's long... :)
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So basically this moonbat's aunt has been living off her father (the moonbat's grandfather) her whole life and her daughter also has a daughter living there all sponging off of grandpa along with stealing from him.

This whole scenario is basically liberalism, you have the evil rich person (grandpa) who provides the money, everyone else (the DUmmies) sponges off this person
The people sponging off grandpa don't think they are getting enough so they steal from him.

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4. Make two calls:
   
The cops

A lawyer







Many states have specific elderly laws that may apply.

Won't do any good, all the cops are too busy hiding in bushes waiting to bust DUmmies.


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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2011, 10:09:38 PM »
So they're treating ol' Gramps like DUmmies treat the government.  And their issue is... what, now?

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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2011, 10:46:25 PM »
Grandpa was a soldier, in the navy?
Must have been the only one
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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2011, 10:53:57 PM »
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Fast forward. my Mother got a call from grandpa, he was confused... he was getting calls from his bank his house is being for closed on. After some further investigation, my aunt and her crew had talked my grandpa into a refinance after grandma died. What they did with the money we have no idea, but the house payment hasn't been paid in seven months. She even got a power of attorney online and signed it.

Power of Attorney (POA) isn't something you get online.  The only way to obtain a POA is with the consent of the individual or by court order (i.e., individual has been ruled incompetent to handle their own affairs).    You can't just go online, get a POA, sign it, and then legally use it as though the person for whom you are Attorney in Fact gave you permission.

Something's being left out of this story, or it's a lie, one or the other.

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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2011, 10:58:58 PM »
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Even more shocking, grandpa injured his back last year in his garden. He is feeling some pain, tried to get his RX filled and guess what? His RX had been fill 27 times in one year!!! 27 times! The pharmacy thinks he's a druggie

I call BS, you can't refill a prescription more than once a month.  Also a pharmacy knows when someone is doctor/pill shopping. They also have who signed for the drugs, call the police and have them arrested (if the story is true).

As to all the other stuff, keep your grandpa with you and sue your aunt and cousin. Put them in jail for fraud.  Why haven't any of the other 6 kids done something until now?  

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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2011, 12:35:37 AM »
 :whatever:I saw this thread, and I really thought the OP was trying to solicit ideas for herself on how to do this, this recount has far too many holes in it to be authentic. As does this reply:


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24. Not exactly the same -
 but my mom was about 80 and got ripped off by a door to door salesman. My sister was living with my mom, who had dementia. One day my sister was in the shower and the doorbell rang. My mom answered and 5 minutes later she was the owner of a gazillion dollar vacuum cleaner.

So we called the city - because we knew there was a Green River ordinance banning door to door sales. They sent the police over who took a report and told us there was a law in our state against swindling the elderly. Sorry can't remember what they called the law.

Anyhow, the state AG got involved, they got my mom's money back and pressed charges against the salesman. It all went down in about a 10 day period. Very fast. We were amazed.

Oh and when my mom died a year or so later and we were cleaning out her house, we found that vacuum cleaner in an upstairs closet. So she got her money back AND kept the gazillion dollar vacuum cleaner. Which turned out to be a piece of shit.

Moral of the story - call the cops. 




There's always a buyer's remorse clause.

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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2011, 12:51:48 AM »
:whatever:I saw this thread, and I really thought the OP was trying to solicit ideas for herself on how to do this, this recount has far too many holes in it to be authentic. As does this reply:





There's always a buyer's remorse clause.

When my mom was pregnant with my brother (this was 1961), my parents didn't have any money (and were both really young). A door to door salesman sold a crib that turned into a highchair then into something else (I can't remember what else it turned into). It was delivered and she said it was the ugliest thing she had ever seen. She called the company and they said they would come pick it up, they didn't. So finally she put it out in the hallway (they lived in an apt), she called the company back and said she would not make the payments on the crib and that it was sitting in the hallway.  She said that it sat there for weeks then one day it was gone. She never got a bill for this ugly ass crib.

They also bought a Kirby vacuum around the same time. The sales pitch was that you put dime (or how ever much) in the handle every week and you would have the monthly payment by the end of the month. She said they didn't even have a rug to vacuum, my dad wanted it because it had attachments so he could vacuum the car.  :-)
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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2011, 07:06:38 AM »
MA has an Elderly Affairs Office, in which they offer an elderly abuse hotline.  I am sure most states have the same thing.   Call the hotline.   

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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2011, 07:16:13 AM »
I think DUmmie Texasgal has been caught with her hand in the cookie jar..... :loser:
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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2011, 09:08:57 AM »
What are the DU names of the family members who have done this to gramps?
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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2011, 09:46:13 AM »
Grandpa was a soldier, in the navy?
Must have been the only one
You caught that one as well.

What the primitive is describing is elder abuse. Cut and dry.
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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2011, 09:50:07 AM »
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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2011, 10:23:08 AM »
ZERO BONG!
When you are the beneficiary of someone’s kindness and generosity, it produces a sense of gratitude and community.

When you are the beneficiary of a policy that steals from someone and gives it to you in return for your vote, it produces a sense of entitlement and dependency.

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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2011, 03:48:19 PM »
Grandpa was a soldier, in the navy?
Must have been the only one

Considering their lack of knowledge of anything about the military, I'm not surprised she called him a soldier.

I am ashamed I missed that though. :doh:
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2011, 03:25:03 AM »
Considering their lack of knowledge of anything about the military, I'm not surprised she called him a soldier.

I am ashamed I missed that though. :doh:

I missed that, too, but considering 99.999% of what they write is pure BS anyway, it fits their MO.
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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2011, 06:43:37 AM »
Power of Attorney (POA) isn't something you get online.  The only way to obtain a POA is with the consent of the individual or by court order (i.e., individual has been ruled incompetent to handle their own affairs).    You can't just go online, get a POA, sign it, and then legally use it as though the person for whom you are Attorney in Fact gave you permission.

Something's being left out of this story, or it's a lie, one or the other.

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Yes you can. You just need it signed by a notary once both parties have signed it. Look online.
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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2011, 07:21:40 AM »
Yes you can. You just need it signed by a notary once both parties have signed it. Look online.

"once both parties have signed it."

If you go back and read what I said, that was my point, though I should have added some things I thought were clear.  I didn't mean it to sound like you can't get a POA online.  See, I don't believe the "my aunt and her crew had talked my grandpa into a refinance" part of the story.  This isn't the first time I've heard of people forging others names in order to gain cash.

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Re: Attention DU legal experts!
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2011, 08:27:48 AM »
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