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Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« on: July 06, 2011, 06:58:18 PM »
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kpete  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-06-11 05:18 PM
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The Bachmann's $1,259.250 Baby Farm? 
 Bachmann has five kids of her own and raised an astonishing 23 foster kids. A nice person would say, “Oh, that’s a nice thing.” But our cold-hearted operative notes that Minnesota pays $30 a day, tax free, per foster kid.

“So if Bachmann has fostered 23 children, let’s say for an average of five years, that would come out to a non-taxable $1,259,250,” the Wonk-Op writes. “No wonder she’s anti-abortion. Children are a cash crop for her.”

http://wonkette.com/211978/michele-bachmanns-baby-farm 

I have faith in the American electorate that hit-pieces like this rebound to the would-be victim's favor if for no other reason than decent people are repulsed by the faction making such claims.

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polichick (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-06-11 05:19 PM
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1. I'd like to hear from some of those kids - wonder what their experiences with her were like.

TRANSLATION: I'm praying for the children to have been abuse. Oh please Gawd, let them be abused!

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WhiteTara  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-06-11 05:21 PM
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2. Of course she was supposed to spend that money on the
 children. But most foster parents use the money for their own personal needs. 

"she was supposed to..." Verdict first. Trial later.

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Brickbat  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-06-11 05:24 PM
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4. Fostering can mean an emergency weekend.
 I've come around to thinking that this particular line of gotcha is gross.
 

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SoCalDem  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-06-11 05:44 PM
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13. While it may be "gross", it cannot be ignored
 People like Bachmann and Palin before her USE this as their claim-to-fame.. to burnish their "family" image. It is the ONLY way to discredit them with their followers when a discrepancy pops up...People went crazy when the Palin-baby stuff was being questioned, but think about this.. What IF, in the summer of 08' Palin had been exposed as the total fraud many of us believe her to be (see 2007 season of Desperate Housewives) ?

I can tell you this.. she would be dug into a hidey hole somewhere in Moosebutt, Alaska...never to be heard from again...and we would be rid of her..


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EC  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-06-11 06:30 PM
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28. Not true
 many of the tea people are already calling her out for her "foster child scam". I saw many responses at the end of articles about Bachmann that were talking about it. And they were calling it a scam, done just for the money. Which is typical tea partier talk, since they hate all "those programs" that help all "those people" because people just scam them for the "easy government cash" and the foster care programs is one of their favorites to call a rip-off. And wouldn't her miscarriage she talks about had been investigated in Kansas as an abortion?

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handmade34  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-06-11 05:43 PM
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12. there is more than enough about Michelle Bachmann to criticize
 I don't think we do ourselves any favors by attacking her care of foster children...
 

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Angry Dragon  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-06-11 05:50 PM
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17. The point you are missing is that over the years
 she has never had a job or source of income that did not come from one form of government or another.
And now she wants to cut those forms of incomes for many people.
By her actions she states that foster care is important, but she wants to cut Medicaid/Medicare
and that is what pays for a large portion of foster care.
So I look at it as she has gotten money from the program but it is now not as important as when she did it.

Do you see the difference??
 

Step outside your insulate wall of tombstones and prove that here, you lying faggot.

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moondust  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jul-06-11 05:52 PM
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19. I"m guessing she got tax write-offs as well.
 I have no proof but figure it's gotta be about making money.

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Re: Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2011, 07:20:16 PM »
Most Foster children only stay for a year or too. All this really shows is that the good congresswoman is a fine upstanding person who opened her home to children in need.

But the DUmmies are doing everything they can to find fault with even acts of charity (something foreign to DUmpsters).

But this is the new reality. Conservatives will be subjected to character assassination. Socialists really do not want competition, and will do their best to scare all contenders away.

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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2011, 08:00:38 PM »
IIRC she was a tax lawyer for the IRS at one time. Hmmmm... boy if that ain't a dummy problem. I bet she represented the IRS against the eeeevil rich in tax cases. 
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Re: Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2011, 08:19:50 PM »
It is really something to witness the goings on in this DUmmie thread and the other one about Bachman's husband being gay.  A few DUmmies still possessing small traces of humanity pleading with the horde to not go down the dark path.  Do they listen?  No.  Only twisted rationalizations for their hate. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2011, 02:24:45 AM »
As Mannn, mentioned, the stays are short.
Kids are provided with a save and healthy environment.
They may or may not be returned to their parents, if they are suited to recieve them.
I find it strange that DUmmies would find fault with that.
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Re: Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2011, 04:34:33 AM »
The DUmmies can't ever admit that their prejudices and bigotry toward conservatives are baseless.  They ignore or shout-down all the studies that prove conservatives care more, donate more, serve as foster parents more, have kids that are happy and well adjusted, and are happier than their liberal counterparts, regardless of their relative wealth.

People like Palin and Bachmann fly right in the face of their prejudices.  They are strong conservative women that demonstrate how to relate happily to husbands and children for decades.  They don't require assistance from the Democratic Plantation to make something of themselves.  They make mockery of the DUmmy's claims about conservative women being ground under the "patriarchy" of Christian society.  They both obviously love children, including those that the DUmmies are so eager to throw away and those that the DUmmies want to believe would be shunned by Christians.  DUmmies hate them with a rabid fierceness because there is just no way to stuff them into the handy-dandy "box" that they believe conservative women must fit.  So, as always, DUmmies must strive to find ways to explain those pesky little facts so as not to lose their comfortable hatred for those they don't tolerate.  Remember, to the left, facts are things to conquer and change, not elements of reality.
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Re: Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2011, 08:33:27 AM »
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kpete  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jul-06-11 05:18 PM
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The Bachmann's $1,259.250 Baby Farm? 


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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2011, 09:24:09 AM »
Where do the DUmmies stand on any of Bachmann's stances?  All I keep reading about is a "baby farm".
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Re: Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2011, 11:23:47 AM »
How many times have we read a DUmmie claim that we're against murdering babies, but we don't care about them after they are born. Here is someone caring about the children after they've been born an the DUmmies are still on attack. Based on this it would seem that the DUmmies really have no legitimate argument for abortion. They just like murdering babies.
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Re: Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2011, 11:27:27 AM »
How many times have we read a DUmmie claim that we're against murdering babies, but we don't care about them after they are born. Here is someone caring about the children after they've been born an the DUmmies are still on attack. Based on this it would seem that the DUmmies really have no legitimate argument for abortion. They just like murdering babies.

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Re: Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2011, 12:04:07 PM »
They are jackals.  They sooooo badly want someone to come forth and say "She abused me!  She raped me with a toothbrush!"  or something.  They would rather have an abused child than a spotless past for Michelle.  Assholes. 

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2011, 12:10:11 PM »
They are jackals.  They sooooo badly want someone to come forth and say "She abused me!  She raped me with a toothbrush!"  or something.  They would rather have an abused child than a spotless past for Michelle.  Assholes. 

I'm waiting for some person to come forward making those claims, but then it will be found out that they were paid by some lefty group.

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Re: Every vice a virtue; every virtue a vice
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2011, 02:57:36 PM »
Where do the DUmmies stand on any of Bachmann's stances?  All I keep reading about is a "baby farm".

They can't argue against them, which is why they have to attack with all this nonsense.