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The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« on: July 01, 2011, 03:45:33 PM »
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catabryna  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jul-01-11 04:11 PM
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The four sweetest words...

I've ever heard. My 10 year old son, with high-functioning autism, just said "I'm a flaming liberal". I'm so damn proud, I had to share!


 :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

Poor 10 year old kid.  Since the former Mrs. Wiggum is a teacher, I've been around a lot of 10 year olds.  I've never heard a single one call themselves anything political in the slightest.

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3. that's great!

But what does his high-functioning autism have to do with anything?

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2011, 03:56:16 PM »
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svsuman24 (8 posts)       Fri Jul-01-11 04:14 PM
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3. that's great!

But what does his high-functioning autism have to do with anything?

Why put labels on people? Should I tell everyone I'm a black male when I say something?

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2011, 04:04:50 PM »
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2. Lovely! What's it mean to him?

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6. To him, it means he wants to be like his mom.

Great.

"Mommy, I want to grow up and become a burden on society just like you!"

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2011, 04:40:03 PM »
Great.

"Mommy, I want to grow up and become a burden on society just like you!"

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     I think he will use the first three words of that same phrase in a few years. And that will make his dipshit mother twice as proud.
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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2011, 04:43:35 PM »
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6. To him, it means he wants to be like his mom.

Doesn't that require hormones and a trip to Sweden or San Fransisco?

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2011, 04:46:05 PM »
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The four sweetest BOUNCY words...

So here I was.
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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2011, 04:52:36 PM »
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hifiguy   (1000+ posts)           Fri Jul-01-11 04:18 PM
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4. It can be a big deal for those of us on the spectrum
   
to let people know we are there. I am Aspergers - dx'd at 48 - and though I look perfectly "normal" I respond to and interact with people in a VERY different way than do "neurotypicals".

I guess it may be true that everything old becomes new again. I remember way back when the DUmmies were all trying to out Aspergers each other. Then there was the time when all of them either were or had indigo children.
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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2011, 04:59:37 PM »
I guess it may be true that everything old becomes new again. I remember way back when the DUmmies were all trying to out Aspergers each other. Then there was the time when all of them either were or had indigo children.


     I call extreme bullshit on the autism/Aspergers thing. That's just an excuse for antisocial behavior and awkwardness. Social Anxiety Disorder is a real thing, but it is not autism, and it is not Aspergers. 
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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2011, 05:01:31 PM »
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I am Aspergers - dx'd at 48 - and though I look perfectly "normal" I respond to and interact with people in a VERY different way than do "neurotypicals".
I think I'll just keep referring to him as a nut.

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2011, 05:06:30 PM »
I think he will use the first three words of that same phrase in a few years.

I was thinking the exact same thing, and you got the H5 for it.
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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2011, 05:53:06 PM »
Ok there are WAY too many people with childeren that have autisum these days. And even more of them seem to be "high fuctioning". I have a feeling someone tweeked the diagnosis protacol a few years ago to make it so vauge that now every one with a slighty dumb kid or a socially awkward one now falls into the new protected group of the future.
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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2011, 06:06:24 PM »
Wait.. 'Neurotypical' ? what is this - the equivalent of calling someone whitey ?

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2011, 06:09:25 PM »
I'd die a little bit on the inside if my daughter ever said that.
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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2011, 06:19:13 PM »
Ok there are WAY too many people with childeren that have autisum these days. And even more of them seem to be "high fuctioning". I have a feeling someone tweeked the diagnosis protacol a few years ago to make it so vauge that now every one with a slighty dumb kid or a socially awkward one now falls into the new protected group of the future.

Slightly dumb?     :whatever:


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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2011, 06:28:44 PM »
I'd die a little bit on the inside if my daughter ever said that.

I might plunge a steak knife into my abdomen if The Heiress ever said that.
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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2011, 06:43:15 PM »
Ok there are WAY too many people with childeren that have autisum these days. And even more of them seem to be "high fuctioning". I have a feeling someone tweeked the diagnosis protacol a few years ago to make it so vauge that now every one with a slighty dumb kid or a socially awkward one now falls into the new protected group of the future.

That is EXACTLY what happened. The criteria used to diagnose autism was expanded within the last 20 years, and so now if a kid has issues but they don't know what it is, they categorize it as autism.

The DUmpmonkeys throw Asperger's around like they know what it is...which they don't. None of them is smart enough to have it.


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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2011, 06:56:46 PM »
Wait.. 'Neurotypical' ? what is this - the equivalent of calling someone whitey ?  
It means "normal".
DUmmies are all "exceptional".

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2011, 06:57:43 PM »
That is EXACTLY what happened. The criteria used to diagnose autism was expanded within the last 20 years, and so now if a kid has issues but they don't know what it is, they categorize it as autism.

That is 100% not true.

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2011, 06:58:16 PM »
It means "normal".
DUmmies are all "exceptional".

It means neurotypically developing -- which is normal.  LOL.

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2011, 07:02:40 PM »
That is 100% not true.

Oh really?

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Changes in the definition of autism, rather than use of the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR vaccine), led to increased diagnosis of autism in the United States and probably in Europe, says a study from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota ( Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine 2005;159:37-44).

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2011, 07:18:15 PM »
It means neurotypically developing -- which is normal.  LOL.

Oh, I know - but it read as being almost a derogatory term.. I also read up on so called 'indigo children' which coincides with GOBUCKS comment on them being 'exceptional' children.. -- essentially that even though your child may be autistic on the outside - he/she can cast healing white light and communicate directly with fictional spirit guides - which makes them awesome.


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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2011, 07:27:52 PM »
That is EXACTLY what happened. The criteria used to diagnose autism was expanded within the last 20 years, and so now if a kid has issues but they don't know what it is, they categorize it as autism.

Let me clarify -- the bolded section is absolutely not true.   From your "linky":

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Before the late 1980s and early 1990s, these children were diagnosed as retarded or having developmental delay, lead author William Barbaresi, a developmental paediatrician, told the BMJ.

Kid has issues and they don't know what it is?   yeah, that is definitely not a kid who presents with characteristics such as MR or DD.  

The diagnostic tools for diagnosing a child with autism has certainly been expanded to include pediatrician observations at an early age (the most optimal time to receive intense therapies to yield the best long term outcomes), however the criteria for diagnosis is most specific and isn't handed out like candy (or rather provided because the clinician is somehow unsure what the "issues" are, whatever the hell that means):

Diagnostic Criteria for 299.00 Autistic Disorder

 
[The following is from Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders: DSM IV]
(I) A total of six (or more) items from (A), (B), and (C), with at least two from (A), and one each from (B) and (C)
(A) qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )
(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:
1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
(C) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects
(II) Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:
(A) social interaction
(B) language as used in social communication
(C) symbolic or imaginative play
(III) The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's Disorder or Childhood Disintegrative Disorder


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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2011, 07:32:05 PM »
Oh, I know - but it read as being almost a derogatory term.. I also read up on so called 'indigo children' which coincides with GOBUCKS comment on them being 'exceptional' children.. -- essentially that even though your child may be autistic on the outside - he/she can cast healing white light and communicate directly with fictional spirit guides - which makes them awesome.



Oh my -- never heard of this.   

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2011, 07:45:03 PM »
Oh my -- never heard of this.   

Yeah, ChuckJ mentioned it upthread and it piqued my interest, as the term was new to me.

from Wikipedia..

"Descriptions of indigo children include the belief that they are empathetic, curious, strong-willed, independent, and often perceived by friends and family as being strange; possess a clear sense of self-definition and purpose; and also exhibit a strong inclination towards spiritual matters from early childhood. Indigo children have also been described as having a strong feeling of entitlement, or "deserving to be here." Other alleged traits include a high intelligence quotient, an inherent intuitive ability, and resistance to authority.[4][6] According to Tober and Carroll, indigo children function poorly in conventional schools due to their rejection of authority, being smarter than their teachers, and a lack of response to guilt-, fear- or manipulation-based discipline.[7]"

Personally, I refer to these children as spoiled brats who need a good spanking, and their Internet privileges, Wiis and XBoxes taken away. My 'Indigo child' started to do poorly in school - after taking her DS, her Wii remote, the XBox power supply, and requiring that she keep a schoolwork/homework journal she turned her grades around in one term. Amazing. The problem with this 'indigo child' was she wanted to do as she pleases, and not what she needs to. Thankfully, her younger brother and sister are over achievers.

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Re: The four sweetest BOUNCY words...
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2011, 07:53:51 PM »
Just to clarify, there's a clinical difference between Asperger's and high functioning autism.  When my daughter was first diagnosed with high functioning autism 10 years ago, the terms were often interchanged.  But as doctors have learned more, they are distinct from each other, though several of the tendencies and behavior patterns can be found in both.  With that understanding, she now has been properly diagnosed as having Asperger's, which as with anything, the proper diagnosis goes a long way towards dealing with the syndrome.

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