DUmmies Discuss Their Love For America

[GOBUCKS]

DUmmy Cyrano, when not weeping, is one of the happiest, most upbeat of all the DUmpmonkeys:

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 12:49 PM
Original message
The America we knew is gone 
The Patriot Act took away more of our basic rights than the Constitution granted us.

I never needed to show a picture ID when voting. Until now.

I’m on the no fly list. But I wasn’t told why and I wasn’t allowed on the plane.

Any president can start any war just because. And screw congressional approval.

A totally insane, bugshit crazy, lunatic right-wing fringe is being taken seriously.

Our government is no longer answerable to us.

Can’t afford gas, food, and the basic necessities of life? Tough shit.

Education? School the little brats at home and quit whining.

Jobs? Hey, that’s not the government’s problem. Start a small business or starve.

Sympathy or empathy from the powers that be? You must be kidding.

This is not the America I grew up in. It has become a really hideous, ugly country and there’s virtually nothing we can do about it. No, we’re not “NUMBER ONE.” And shouting “USA,” “USA,” is an exercise in utter stupidity.

But all of this is just my opinion. What’s yours?

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DUmmy Cyrano was denied boarding due to the bottle of muscatel in his carry on bag.

kenny blankenship  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 12:50 PM
Response to Original message
1. I hope yall took good pictures
because it's gone and never coming back.

 

Arugula Latte  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 12:51 PM
Response to Original message
2. Corporate power won. The lower 98 percent lost.
Yes, I think it's over.

DUmmy Taverner, continuing a strong campaign, is a bum:   

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. I think The "Big" Lebowski summed up what happened, in not so nice of words...
 "You had your chance....the Bums lost, Mister Lebowski!"

Now we are not bums, but that's not how the rich and corporate interests see us

They see us all as bums, with our hands out, asking for things like our paycheck, our money, our homes. For them, all of that is theirs, and we are just taking up space.

DUmmy Taverner is a drunkard, an admitted drug addict, unemployed, and with no interest in employment.
To most people, that is a pretty good definition of a "bum". At least The Dude got out and went bowling.

robcon  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 12:51 PM
Response to Original message
3. My opinion: America is a leader of the world, and a great country.
Freedom is still cherished and practiced her.

The OP is a series of strawman arguments... making up what 'others' think.

Lousy Freeper Troll.

DUmmy NightWatcher (TNO?) is a true American democrat patriot:

NightWatcher  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #3
10. A Leader in what ways? Education, life expectantcy, quality of life, human rights???
 I'll give you that it's a beautiful country in places, but we're trashing and paving over those everyday.

American Exceptionalism is a bullshit lie that we've been fed for a hundred years. There never was a Manifest Destiny, American Dream, nor any other packaged sloganeering that made us any better than tons of other countries. We're mediocre and only average in our mediocrity. We imprison and execute a disproportionate amount of minorities and poor, justice is purchased by the rich, and the only thing that matters is the bottom line

 


And here comes nutcase nadin, with her goo, goo, googly eyes: 

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Ok let's be clear it wasn't for hundreds of years
at least not in the colonial period... I mean it started, the first glimmers under Jackson.

Ok... that is almost two hundred, stand corrected.

We went to the national museum of history in Mexico City... I did not need a guide... I mean, masters in history of Mexico, I think I could self guide... (And seeing the ORIGINAL of a book everybody and their sister who has done history of the borbon reforms has read, was kind of cool)

But here was one part of the exhibit that warmed my heart. It was a large write up of the CIVIL WAR, bloody civil war... during the war of independence. You try to go there outside of very specialized circles with US History. Yep there is plenty of myth in any national history but when even simple facts such as wars of independence are also civil wars are denied, we enter into the realm of pure and sheer fantasy making.

I'll bet it would be a pure joy to tour a museum with know-it-all nadin.

theophilus  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. There is still a lot of "great" here but things are trending in an ominous
and not encouraging direction, imo.

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
18. Yep, that is why we check the undies of 91 year old
women...

Free countries do that....

Read on inverted totalitarianism.

Here, always helpful

http://www.alternet.org/news/85728 /

The book referred to in the article, must read

http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Incorporated-Managed-In...

By the way George Orwell is the guy over there doing hoops and hollers.

DAMN I WAS RIGHT! 

 

grasswire  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 12:53 PM
Response to Original message
5. remember the words "we the people"?
It's all a charade now. Just in time for the Independence Day gala celebrations.
Someone should have organized protests for Monday.

Looks like the July 4th celebrations will be limited to baseball and Chevrolet.
We still don't have a place to buy a piece of apple pie.

RKP5637  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. It was that backbone that held this country together. Now it's been broken and the
country is fragmenting IMO. I hate to sound pessimistic, but none of this will be fixed easily, and might take decades. IMO the tipping point has almost been reached and I have no idea which was it's going to tip, but I think the OP was right on target. I was once an eternal optimist, but no more.

 

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. Reaching the tipping pont should scare people
tipping points are never nice.

Teh country is gone... something else will replace it... fall of empire is coming... and I suspect the break up of the United States. I hope I end up in a more progressive successor state...

Nor will the break up be... peaceful

Nutcase nadin knows tipping points almost as well as she knows trends and radiation.

RKP5637  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #26
32. I've worked in a number of major corporations now gone. I got out of
them in time to move onto the next one. Call it a sixth sense, street smarts or whatever, but I had the same feelings in those companies as I do now in our country.

I was telling someone today, in ten years or much less one won't even recognize this country and I fear it's not going to be for the better. There are way too many people disadvantaged now in this country not through any fault of their own. I think there is a resentment and hostility really growing.

I'm just guessing, but I bet in some dark corners of gov., about 100 million or so of this country have been written off as not savable, those in poverty, homeless, lacking insurance and sick, many children, the old and elderly, the uneducated, chronically unemployed, under employed, etc.

 

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. Key words you wrote
 "I think there is a resentment and hostility really growing."

That is why the tipping point is coming and won't be pretty. It may take five years, it may take a generation... look at Egypt... it took almost three generations. But tipping points are always reached. That is the "law of history" that Hegel or Marx never found.

Nutcase nadin has discovered tipping points that even Hegel and Marx overlooked. Those DUmbasses! And, uh, yeah, look at Egypt.

Besides trading Mubarak for some unnamed sand monkeys, what was accomplished? What's changed for the better?

Downtown Hound (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 01:53 PM
Response to Original message
28. It's been over for years
But that doesn't mean we can't still rebuild it with something better. Think of Japan after the second World War. Destroyed, humiliated, and lying in rubble. And yet several decades later they were an economic power. We can do the same thing.

It's only truly over when you give up.

 
DUmmy Downtown Hound thinks America today is like Japan after WWII.
DUmmy Downtown Hound needs some serious work on his analogies.

Downtown Hound (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #33
36. I'm afraid I can't pinpoint the exact moment when it ended
 All I know is that when you've got a country where the majority of it's young people think torture is okay, when corporations can get away with anything they want while poor people go to jail for decades for drug crimes, where we can spend trillions on war to "protect" us from terrorism but can't do anything about global warming, then yeah, it's over.

All that's left now is to tear down and start anew. 

Oh, okay, drug crimes. Now we know where the DUmmy is coming from.

hifiguy  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #33
58. The America we were taught about in school ended
November 22, 1963 in a coup d'etat in Dallas. The MIC/PTB let LBJ have the Great Society in return for his giving them the war they wanted in Vietnam. The rest, as they say, is history.

Wrong! It ended with the chants of USA! USA! at Lake Placid, when the American Olympic hockey team beat the Russians. (Pittian reference new people will not get.)


Now, don't go questioning this DUmmy's patriotism:

Ichingcarpenter  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 02:26 PM
Response to Original message
45. I agree .... and now work for the world change and local
consciousness.

Nations are now meaningless in the old jingoism, they are just communities on the world stage.

I cried I think in 05 listening to song on the radio with my daughter driving in the car... it was about how
corporations now ruled the world and the 'disney' and other brands we knew and loved is just bullshit now..... I wish I remembered the song but I don't.

I think........... live locally act globally is still the answer.

Nation states are now passe.

Another DUmp weeper.

[thundley4]

RKP5637  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #9
16. It was that backbone that held this country together. Now it's been broken and the
country is fragmenting IMO. I hate to sound pessimistic, but none of this will be fixed easily, and might take decades. IMO the tipping point has almost been reached and I have no idea which was it's going to tip, but I think the OP was right on target. I was once an eternal optimist, but no more.

What has broken this country is liberal ideas:  families are unimportant, celebrate diversity and hold on to immigrant traditions,  take God out of the public forum and hide him away, give children a timeout not a swat on the butt, an unborn life is unimportant if it interferes with a woman getting laid.  The list is nearly endless as to how liberal ideas have ruined society.

[I_B_Perky]

RKP5637  (1000+ posts)      Wed Jun-29-11 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #26
32. I've worked in a number of major corporations now gone. I got out of them in time to move onto the next one. I suspect that this dummy never held a job more than a month.

Call it a sixth sense, street smarts or whatever, but I had the same feelings in those companies as I do now in our country. A street smart Dummy?  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I bet the company was in trouble when he was hired and needed a warm body until they could wind things down

I was telling someone today, in ten years or much less one won't even recognize this country and I fear it's not going to be for the better. There are way too many people disadvantaged now in this country not through any fault of their own. I think there is a resentment and hostility really growing. The free lunch is over!!! Waaaaah!!!

I'm just guessing, but I bet in some dark corners of gov., about 100 million or so of this country have been written off as not savable, those in poverty, homeless, lacking insurance and sick, many children, the old and elderly, the uneducated, chronically unemployed, under employed, etc.
Chronically unemployed describes you dumpmonkies very well. You welfare parasites at the Dump certainly are not productive and never have been so I would say you are expendable.

One thing I do want to say... if you don't like this great nation of ours... then LEAVE!!!! I hear North Korea needs some of you geniuses.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'll bet it would be a pure joy to tour a museum with know-it-all nadin.

Ummm sure.  You first.

[Ralph Wiggum]

I don't know about the rest of you, but other than getting older, my life hasn't changed much in the last 20 years.  Yes, things are more expensive.  Technology has changed the way we conduct our lives.  A few other minor inconveniences in life have happened.  But fundamentally, life is essentially the same.  Better even.  I don't know what kind of warped world these idiots live in, but I don't want to live there.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Ummm sure.  You first.

I can just imagine going to the Baseball Hall of Fame with that nutcase and she'd just be making shit up as we toured Cooperstown.  That might actually be fun to teach that bitch a lesson.

[JohnnyReb]

The DUmmies write a historic document.......

"We DUmmies in order to steal more of other peoples money hold these truths to be self evident...the world owes us a damn good living just because we breathe......"

[Mr Mannn]

Wading through the hypocrisy presented here is dramatic.

Democrats controlled both houses since 2006. They could have repealed the Patriot act any time...but no: democrats approved it every time it come up for a vote.

TSA is an Obama creation. it wasn't here in 2008. if Obama and the democrats didn't like the pat downs they would be GONE.

The primitives are once again blaming all the wrong people. At some point you would think even a brain damaged test-monkey would learn after repeated shocks. But this is DU. The dregs of the earth.
There is no hope for the bottom dwellers at DU.

[Freeper]

July 4th is a national day of mourning at DU.
They will bitch and moan about all the jingoistic displays.
 

[AprilRazz]

nadinbrzezinski  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #32
37. Key words you wrote
 "I think there is a resentment and hostility really growing."

That is why the tipping point is coming and won't be pretty. It may take five years, it may take a generation... look at Egypt... it took almost three generations. But tipping points are always reached. That is the "law of history" that Hegel or Marx never found.

The only tipping point you know is on a bottle of tequila.

[delilahmused]

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 12:49 PM
Original message
The America we knew is gone
The Patriot Act took away more of our basic rights than the Constitution granted us.

Examples? Thought not!

I never needed to show a picture ID when voting. Until now.

It's okay to have to show ID when buying alcohol & cigarettes and applying for food stamps but not to vote. DUmmie logic.

I’m on the no fly list. But I wasn’t told why and I wasn’t allowed on the plane.

I don't know, if it was me, I'd want to know why.

Any president can start any war just because. And screw congressional approval.

Yeah, what's up with that Libya thing anyway?

A totally insane, bugshit crazy, lunatic right-wing fringe is being taken seriously.

Well, perhaps if your side would quit twittering their teeny weenies perhaps they'd be taken more seriously.

Our government is no longer answerable to us.

You wanted hope and change

Can’t afford gas, food, and the basic necessities of life? Tough shit.

If you can't afford the necessities of life don't you think it'd be wise to get rid of your Internet connection and use that money for food and gas. Always ready to complain, never willing to make the sacrifices necessary to have a better life.

Education? School the little brats at home and quit whining.

Well, yeah, with teachers like those 2 whiny ho's in Kansas I think homeschooling is necessary to the health & well being of our children.

Jobs? Hey, that’s not the government’s problem. Start a small business or starve.

Actually it's not the government's responsibility to do anything more than get the hell out of the way. Just what do you think the government is supposed to do.

Sympathy or empathy from the powers that be? You must be kidding.

Sympathy and empathy are never going to come from an impersonal government. Only human contact can create that kind of care and concern.

This is not the America I grew up in. It has become a really hideous, ugly country and there’s virtually nothing we can do about it. No, we’re not “NUMBER ONE.” And shouting “USA,” “USA,” is an exercise in utter stupidity.

Feel free to go to the country you do think is #1. Always complaining but never willing to put out the effort to do something to improve your life.

But all of this is just my opinion. What’s yours?

You need sleeping pill, a razor blade, and a noose. Apply liberally. You'll feel better.

Cindie

[jukin]

To all DUches, sign up here PM the address you would like your double edged razor blade sent to and I will post to you ASAP. Along with the safety razor blade I will also include nearest interstate freeway.

[true_blood]

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. I think The "Big" Lebowski summed up what happened, in not so nice of words...
 "You had your chance....the Bums lost, Mister Lebowski!" Now we are not bums, but that's not how the rich and corporate interests see us
They see us all as bums, with our hands out, asking for things like our paycheck, our money, our homes. For them, all of that is theirs, and we are just taking up space.

Taverner, seriously man. You've got some misinformation going on for sure. Take another hit man.
I hope my employer doesn't "want to take" my truck, car and home.

[sybilll]

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I’m on the no fly list. But I wasn’t told why and I wasn’t allowed on the plane.

I don't know, if it was me, I'd want to know why.

Ask your parole officer DUmmie. 

*Your* America is gone because they came up with GPS technology for your court ordered ankle bracelet. 

[Karin]

I never needed to show a picture ID when voting. Until now.

Oh my God, you poor thing!  Here, take your shoes off and have a seat, let me fetch you something cool to drink.  You must be traumatized!  You have such a steely disposition, I don't think I could have weathered that storm!  Can I get you anything else, another drink? 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-29-11 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #2
15. I think The "Big" Lebowski summed up what happened, in not so nice of words...
 "You had your chance....the Bums lost, Mister Lebowski!" Now we are not bums, but that's not how the rich and corporate interests see us
They see us all as bums, with our hands out, asking for things like our paycheck, our money, our homes. For them, all of that is theirs, and we are just taking up space.

Now, I'm a big fan of "The Big Lebowski" and all.

But Jeff Bridges/Jeffrey "Dude" Lebowski WAS A BUM!  I don't know how you could deny that at all.  Very entertaining movie.