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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2011, 07:44:48 PM »
Good grief. I am centrist. I think if you can get far enough away from the shrieking both sides are making then you can think a little clearer. I do not feel either superior nor inferior. I have strong feelings about a great many things.

For instance, over the past few decades Congress, legal precedent and the President have been chipping away at the Constitution, until at last it is in a very real threat of simply being ignored, or worse.

I have watched Americans waive basic rights in favor of the illusion of safety over the past 10 years, and do so willingly.

Many of our inner cities are now like third world countries and domestic spending being slashed in favor of two wars.

Our infrastructure is rotten, and not much, if anything is being done about it.

New Orleans, one of our greatest cities is still toiling its way out of the disaster that was Katrina.

This country went from really being number one to not so much anymore.

We are in a very serious economic crisis brought about by greed and wink-wink deals by investors and bankers who in return were bailed out. Manufacturing is leaving like rats off of a sinking ship. People with business degrees, etc are now flipping burgers while bank execs are getting ridiculous bonuses.

I bought an American flag, when i got home it said Made in China.

American soldiers are getting maimed and killed.

Yeah, I am fence sitting, not really.
I am calling bullshit on you, good Sir.

IMHO those who claim to be "centrists" are actually leftists playing chameleon. You may see the middle of the road as a comfortable place to be because it offers the safe haven of not having to commit oneself to any given subject and conveniently lean one way or the other as perils present themselves.
IOW, those who profess themselves to be a "centrist" are actually spineless but the genuine "centrist" is a rare bird and you are no "centrist".

You are a leftist, a liberal. In typical liberal fashion you again and again offer up some passing initial disclaimer and then jump right in with both feet on the liberal tack.

I don't care if you are a liberal or not. What I cannot respect is someone who claims to be one thing when it is obvious they are another. Claiming to be "on the fence" is laughable and like a beer can propped up on a fence rail you are certainly going to draw fire, that's a given. If you are indeed a liberal as I assert then just come clean. THe Cave isn't like the DUmp, you won't be banished for honestly speaking your mind here but like anywhere else in life an insincere disingenuous impostor will be treated accordingly.


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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2011, 07:56:24 PM »
Nice job ignoring the rest of my post, thanks.

IMO you're a Paulbot, no desire to engage a Paulbot.
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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2011, 08:03:16 PM »
Good grief. I am centrist. I think if you can get far enough away from the shrieking both sides are making then you can think a little clearer. I do not feel either superior nor inferior. I have strong feelings about a great many things.

For instance, over the past few decades Congress, legal precedent and the President have been chipping away at the Constitution, until at last it is in a very real threat of simply being ignored, or worse.

I have watched Americans waive basic rights in favor of the illusion of safety over the past 10 years, and do so willingly.

Many of our inner cities are now like third world countries and domestic spending being slashed in favor of two wars.

Our infrastructure is rotten, and not much, if anything is being done about it.

New Orleans, one of our greatest cities is still toiling its way out of the disaster that was Katrina.

This country went from really being number one to not so much anymore.

We are in a very serious economic crisis brought about by greed and wink-wink deals by investors and bankers who in return were bailed out. Manufacturing is leaving like rats off of a sinking ship. People with business degrees, etc are now flipping burgers while bank execs are getting ridiculous bonuses.

I bought an American flag, when i got home it said Made in China.

American soldiers are getting maimed and killed.

Yeah, I am fence sitting, not really.
I never said you were fence sitting. There you go putting words in people's mouths.  :-)

Anyway, I have no idea what a centrist is. The left has broken the bounds of what "left" used to mean. So where does that put the center, exactly?
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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2011, 08:59:21 PM »
What have we come to as a nation when we condone such things? Is it acceptable to waive our humanity for some imagined political gain?
I condone such things. This is Darwin in action. Stupid people sail into a military zone and they don't expect to get shot. Too bad for them.

The bottom line here is the boat people are NOT helping a starving people. Gaza is NOT starving. It is not poor There are shopping malls, jewelry stores, all sorts of things that require money.
--> The goal of breaking the blockade is to allow ships to deliver high tech weapons to a people who would turn them on Israel. Cargo that is not inspected by Israel. That's why Israel has the blockade in the first place.  

Personally, I hope the ships are impounded by Israel and long jail terms for the hippies on board. Up to now there have been no real consequences. If the ships are sunk/all hands lost, GOOD! icing on the cake.

I have no sympathy for long haired maggot infested hippies. I LOVE Rachel Corrie Jokes and I trolled her memorial site. Anyone who will not get out of the way for a slow moving bulldozer deserves what they get.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2011, 09:37:58 PM »
LOL.

Well, lemmee see . . . he voted for Obama, pimps some bogus pagan religion, has been banned from countless forums, "knew" about but did nothing when people from the board he admins posts porn  here, is for open borders, just for starters . . . yeah, a centrist for sure.  :whatever:

But keep it up and he'll put you on ignore, just to warn you. I think he should join the flotilla, personally speaking. Tool.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2011, 10:47:26 PM »
LOL.

Well, lemmee see . . . he voted for Obama, pimps some bogus pagan religion, has been banned from countless forums, "knew" about but did nothing when people from the board he admins posts porn  here, is for open borders, just for starters . . . yeah, a centrist for sure.  :whatever:

But keep it up and he'll put you on ignore, just to warn you. I think he should join the flotilla, personally speaking. Tool.

Oh jeez, he's worse than a Paulbot then.
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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2011, 05:46:27 AM »
LOL.

Well, lemmee see . . . he voted for Obama, pimps some bogus pagan religion, has been banned from countless forums, "knew" about but did nothing when people from the board he admins posts porn  here, is for open borders, just for starters . . . yeah, a centrist for sure.  :whatever:

But keep it up and he'll put you on ignore, just to warn you. I think he should join the flotilla, personally speaking. Tool.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2011, 06:28:03 AM »
LOL.

Well, lemmee see . . . he voted for Obama, pimps some bogus pagan religion, has been banned from countless forums, "knew" about but did nothing when people from the board he admins posts porn  here, is for open borders, just for starters . . . yeah, a centrist for sure.  :whatever:

But keep it up and he'll put you on ignore, just to warn you. I think he should join the flotilla, personally speaking. Tool.


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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2011, 09:35:06 AM »
Our Coast Guard seems capable of stopping ships and boats on the high seas daily without blowing them out of the water to do it.

Really?  I was Navy Boarding, Search, and Seizure doing boardings on the "high seas" with Coast Guard LEO Detachments for quite a few years and have seen some boardings go very, very bad that ended with bodies floating in the water.  One thing I will tell you from practical application and experience is that the ultimate professionals of the Coast Guard LEO Dets will indeed shoot from a distance rather than put boarding teams in danger, especially when dealing with suspected hostiles.

Your opinion and my experience don't seem to line up very well, do they?  It would appear that my assessment of what the Israelis will do to any enemy combatant group that attempts to run their blockade is the more correct one.

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Once again, it is the administration condoning the possible acts of violence against them that I find offensive, not any act that hasn't happened yet.

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If you are accusing me of stepping on the corpses of our dead soldiers then I expect an apology.


I accused you of no such thing.  What I said, in response to your lament, was that when the left decided to stop walking on the backs of the dead military personnel to score their points, then feel free to let me know. 

That's all, nothing more, nothing for you to read into and get offended.  If I am going to call you a leftist, you can bet your ass that I will make it very plain and very obvious. 

Quit being such a thin skinned sissy-Mary and, while we're at it, take your demand for an apology and stick it in your ass.

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I see regularly what those kids have and are going through and I am furious that they were put in harms way to begin with.


I'm sorry, what?  Do you even think before you type?

You're furious that they who volunteered themselves to do violence on your behalf so you can sleep safely in your bed at night were actually hurt in the execution of their duties?  What would you rather have happen?  Our trained and equipped fighting forces sidelined while people are blown to bits in restaurants and shopping malls?  Would you rather have to fight off the islamokazie cowards in the Mall of America or would you rather have those who are trained and equipped go and kill these animals somewhere other than your home town?

Make no mistake, what these kids are going through is very hard and tragic.  Also make no mistake in the fact that they know full well what they are getting into.  I knew it when I raised my right hand and so did everyone else, there was no mystery involved. 

If you want a constructive place to direct your anger, how about you direct it at the very idiots that are hindering these young troopers from being able to fully execute their duties so they can actually get the damn job done.  How about, instead of wringing your hands over what is to become of those actively supporting terrorism (ie your "misguided hippies"), you make an effort to squash the enemies of this country and our civilization?  Think you can manage to do that?

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No, you think you are some high and mighty middle-of-the-road type, we got it.  I'm going to let you in on a secret - the only things you will find in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and dead animals.

Nobody here screeches sound bites, sweetheart, we leave the spoon fed pablum to the brain dead left.  Here you will find many thinkers and people of experience which is the heart of true conservatism and it would do you well to remember that.  You might want to consider not spouting left leaning bullshit if you want to be taken seriously, though.  None of what you posted is from any credible source and appears highly suspicious at best. 

Anyone that would come on a conservative board and lament the fate of leftist trash does himself no good in trying to claim any type of conservatism.  By definition, if it is not conservative, it is liberal.  Kind of like there is really no "bisexual" - you either engage in certain kinds of behavior or you do not.
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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2011, 09:45:16 AM »
I think anytime the government condones something like this for any reason, that it is a serious problem. Yes, they should know better. Personally I don't care if Israel and Palestine wipe each other off the face of the world, but to deliberately turn the back to American citizens like this, to me, is inexcusable.

So much for the libertarian claiming people are allowed to engage in self-destructive behavior.

What is the/any president supposed to do if citizens decide to antagonize the security of a foreign nation? He can arrest his own citizens or not much else.

Methinks you're just being cryptic trying to use this issue to drive a wedge between the US and the only civil scoiety in the ME. First comes the "I don't care about the Philistines" paean next will come the "but we give them so much money" bleating.

Israel is an outpost that stymies the advance of a "civilization" of sub-savages that bring violence to any nation it touches. Not 1 nation on this planet has a sizeable Muslim population that can peacefully live within its own borders or with its neighbors and this includes predominanty Muslim nations.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2011, 10:26:21 AM »
Damn nice dogpile, spags. You all do Discordia proud, except for the part where you refuse to have intelligent discussion.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2011, 10:36:03 AM »
Damn nice dogpile, spags. You all do Discordia proud, except for the part where you refuse to have intelligent discussion.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2011, 11:08:56 AM »
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Clean up, aisle 5.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2011, 12:01:33 PM »
Oh no, you outed me as a Discordian. Except that was all covered in my intro thread and in a thread in religion. Try to keep up.

I don't follow you, retard, therefore there is nothing to "keep up" with but I will say that learning you are a whatever it is you are, it sure explains why your posts look like the rest of the twats that got shown the door not too long ago.  As far as I'm concerned, you can join the rest of your brethren in the CC shitcan.  You're all a bunch of *leftist goons that are trolling the net to stir shit and, in my honest opinion, you have no place here.


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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2011, 12:40:17 PM »
Hawk,  Just a few observations on why the membership perceives you as a closet liberal.......

Good grief. I am centrist. ,<snip>. I have strong feelings about a great many things.

These two statements appear to be (philosophically at least) somewhat contradictory.....

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For instance, over the past few decades Congress, legal precedent and the President have been chipping away at the Constitution, until at last it is in a very real threat of simply being ignored, or worse.

I have watched Americans waive basic rights in favor of the illusion of safety over the past 10 years, and do so willingly.

Although most of us would agree, though I suspect your reason for this statement is somewhat different from our own.....for example if you're referring to the "Patriot Act" et al, I could give a crap if a potential terrorist has his/her "Constitutional rights" violated, quite frankly in years past such persons were treated much more harshly.  Citizens guilty of sedition and treason were summarily executed, or subjected to long prison terms.

Or have you a problem with "torture" used to extract information from our enemies?  For my part, I'll come right out and state that I support ANY method  necessary to extract intelligence from those at war with us.........

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Many of our inner cities are now like third world countries and domestic spending being slashed in favor of two wars.

Liberal talking point number 1,328........"conservatives hate poor people and minorities"......

Our "inner cirties" are the result of "progressive" (democrat) policies for generations, all have failed.  We conservatives feel sympathy for those citizens, however, we refuse, categorically to PAY for those failed policies.....they are on their own now.  They are largely managed by the same "poor" minorities that inhabit them.

Sorry, not my problem any longer.......I helped pay for the "Great Society", and "Model Cities" programs, and we now see the results.

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Our infrastructure is rotten, and not much, if anything is being done about it.

Well......Obama promised us that the 800 billion "Stimulus" was going to be devoted to "shovel ready" improvements in the infrastructure.......that's more than Eisenhower spent in FOUR years, building the interstate highway system during one of his terms.....where did it go??

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New Orleans, one of our greatest cities is still toiling its way out of the disaster that was Katrina.

Now you're just being disingenuous......NOLA was a toilet before Katrina hit.....nature just flushed it.........if a "specific group" of citizens can't figure how to rebuild following this event, particularly after the billions of private charity and government aid sent there......I could care less........

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American soldiers are getting maimed and killed.

Liberal talking point number 2,134.........."make love not war".........I guess you really haven't outgrown your hippy days after all.  Other members have responded to this remark far more eloquently than I.

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Yeah, I am fence sitting, not really.

With that I'm beginning to agree.....you are not sitting on the same side of the fence as the rest of us......

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2011, 01:14:22 PM »
With that I'm beginning to agree.....you are not sitting on the same side of the fence as the rest of us......

doc

Doc, this disconaut is no different than that bunch of howler monkeys that got booted out the CC door; his protestations notwithstanding.
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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2011, 01:26:48 PM »
Doc, this disconaut is no different than that bunch of howler monkeys that got booted out the CC door; his protestations notwithstanding.

I don't know what his real politics are (Besides 'Opaque'), but his OP in this thread is about four cans shy of a sixpack the 'Making sense' department, which proceeded to get not-significantly-clearer for two-and-a-half pages.  All he did manage to clarify was that he thinks the US should protect all retarded American activists who travel overseas and interfere in the affairs of foreign sovereigns. 

I would venture to say that this idea isn't mainstream thought here, a fact he seems to be having a very difficult time assimilating.  I think the 'St. Pancake' smiley says it for most of us:

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2011, 01:28:27 PM »
Question: What is the only country in the entire Middle East where Christians, Jews and Muslims can choose freely live in harmony in a representative government?

Hmmm...


I'll give you three guesses.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2011, 01:28:45 PM »
Doc, this disconaut is no different than that bunch of howler monkeys that got booted out the CC door; his protestations notwithstanding.

In this and perhaps one other thread, I'd tend to agree.......however  in all fairness, he HAS participated in a large number of other threads without controversy, unlike his predecessors.

We pride ourselves in not being an "echo chamber", and therefore, we must respect some diversity of opinion on issues.  That said, such positions cannot be expected to be completely challenged........goes with the territory.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2011, 01:32:53 PM »
My God, I'm in agreement with the idiots in the Obama Administration.  Somebody check the thermostat in Hell.  I, too, "plan to do absolutely nothing to protect [y]our boat from Israeli attack or illegal boarding, [and I] "would be happy if something happened to [you]." [I am also], "perfectly willing to have the cold corpses of activists worthless leftist scumbags shown on American TV."

Wow; broken clock principle? :confused:


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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2011, 05:57:18 PM »
Question: What is the only country in the entire Middle East where Christians, Jews and Muslims can choose freely live in harmony in a representative government?

Hmmm...


I'll give you three guesses.



I'll take a stab at that one Alex......

Iraq.....nope the christians have fled.

Iran.....Nope, I'm-a-dinner-jacket don't like Jews.

Saudi Arabia.....that's got to be it, right?
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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2011, 06:14:48 PM »
Hawk. As for the dog-pile you brought it on yourself. A lot of the piling on had some good points. If you want a conversation you do not pain a people trying to protect themselves as evil.

There is a reason for the naval blockade of Gaza. Do you even know what it is? Or are you just reduced to the talking points of the Left: "Israel Bad, murderous Hamas good."

You picked a hot topic and picked the stupid side. I'm surprised that you are surprised you were piled on. Of course trolls do so love to play the victim.

and that's the bottom line:  I think this was a vary mild troll to test the waters. At some point you are going to photo bomb your way out just like the others. I think you and the discordians are professional trolls, and for the last two weeks you've been playing the line and testing the fish.

The sooner you are gone the better.

and another bi*ch slap for being a big baby about all of this.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2011, 07:21:44 PM »
Hawk. As for the dog-pile you brought it on yourself. A lot of the piling on had some good points. If you want a conversation you do not pain a people trying to protect themselves as evil.

There is a reason for the naval blockade of Gaza. Do you even know what it is? Or are you just reduced to the talking points of the Left: "Israel Bad, murderous Hamas good."

You picked a hot topic and picked the stupid side. I'm surprised that you are surprised you were piled on. Of course trolls do so love to play the victim.

and that's the bottom line:  I think this was a vary mild troll to test the waters. At some point you are going to photo bomb your way out just like the others. I think you and the discordians are professional trolls, and for the last two weeks you've been playing the line and testing the fish.

The sooner you are gone the better.

and another bi*ch slap for being a big baby about all of this.

Adios.

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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2011, 08:22:30 PM »
What not even willing to engage in a conversation?  What a woos.

BS for being a woos.


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Re: Obama fails again, big time
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2011, 10:06:17 PM »
Adios.

Door, ass, all that follows.

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