primitives discuss being stopped by cops

[franksolich]

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Oh my.

Eddie Haskell (304 posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 04:56 PM
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I was stopped at a PA State Police checkpoint today.

It was 10:14 a.m. and I was getting off an interstate on an exit to nowhere. They were stopping everyone and asking for photo ID. I thought this kind of harassment was illegal. Does anyone know what I'm required to supply? Do I have to answer questions about my destination or what I'm planning to do?

Enormous campfire.

CrazyBob (5 posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 05:18 PM
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20. That happened to me more than once

I threw a fit about it (later). But ya know...upon further review...

Its just as legal as a sobriety checkpoint. And nowadays the police don't have to tell you what/who they are looking for. So you really have to cooperate or face stiff consequences.

I think we have lost this battle.

grasswire  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 04:59 PM
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2. call your local ACLU

They might have answers to your questions.

Taverner  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-25-11 05:00 PM
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3. Expect to see more and more of this

Is it legal?

It shouldn't be, but they've been doing this for years under the guise of "catching drunk drivers"

And when they use that as their excuse, no one on this board has a problem with surrendering their Constitutional Rights - to the point where if you point this out, you get shouted down for being in favor of drunk driving or something.

panader0  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 05:03 PM
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4. I got stopped by the police years ago hitchhiking thru Texas

The cop asked "Where are you coming from and where are you going to?"

I said "I'm coming from the east and going to the west."

It almost got me arrested.

There are Border Patrol stops on the road north to Tucson. You can't go from So. Az. to Tucson without being stopped.

Liberal_in_LA  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 05:04 PM
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6. Happens to black folks all the time

elleng  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-25-11 05:06 PM
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10. Right, Driving While Black, Walking While Black, Voting While Black.

OP stop was at a highway checkpoint, EVERYONE stopped.

Liberal_in_LA  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 05:14 PM
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17. In Los angeles, they do warrant stops in the black / brown neighborhoods. stopping all cars, making them show ID. My white friend explained that he got to just put his ID up against the window and keep driving. Implication being - whites get a pass during these stops.

[formerlurker]

Eddie Haskell (304 posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 04:56 PM
Original message
 
I was stopped at a PA State Police checkpoint today.

It was 10:14 a.m. and I was getting off an interstate on an exit to nowhere. They were stopping everyone and asking for photo ID. I thought this kind of harassment was illegal. Does anyone know what I'm required to supply? Do I have to answer questions about my destination or what I'm planning to do?

Photo ID?  You mean license?    Yeah misfit, you are required to provide a license. 


 

[vadawg]

jeez, it seems the popo was polite and let him on his way no problems and yet you would think he had the magic drug sniffing hamster do a rectal examination from the replies.  Nothing in this world is worse than when you stop an idiot who then goes on about the police state whilst you are just advising them that their brake light is out and to have a good day.

[formerlurker]

Someone here posted a Chris Rock clip about getting arrested, it was hysterical -- I think it was Chris maybe?

Really appropriate here.

[vadawg]

As i once told the dummies, the side of the road is not the place to fight your case, as you will most likely end up getting your ass handed to you and more charges, regardless if you believe you are innocent or not the place to fight is once you go in front of the magistrate and if need be the judge.  Cant believe the number of people who think that because they send money to the ACLU or watch law and order that they have some right to resist arrest if they think that they dont deserve a ticket or to go to jail.

[Tucker]

elleng  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-25-11 05:06 PM
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10. Right, Driving While Black, Walking While Black, Voting While Black.

OP stop was at a highway checkpoint, EVERYONE stopped.

Yep. It's real shame how dem black folk can't vote.

[thundley4]

As i once told the dummies, the side of the road is not the place to fight your case, as you will most likely end up getting your ass handed to you and more charges, regardless if you believe you are innocent or not the place to fight is once you go in front of the magistrate and if need be the judge.  Cant believe the number of people who think that because they send money to the ACLU or watch law and order that they have some right to resist arrest if they think that they dont deserve a ticket or to go to jail.

We prefer to have the DUmmies resist arrest and be smart asses to the police. It makes for good bouncy tales.

[Tucker]

As i once told the dummies, the side of the road is not the place to fight your case, as you will most likely end up getting your ass handed to you and more charges, regardless if you believe you are innocent or not the place to fight is once you go in front of the magistrate and if need be the judge.  Cant believe the number of people who think that because they send money to the ACLU or watch law and order that they have some right to resist arrest if they think that they dont deserve a ticket or to go to jail.

Welcome to CC. You lasted longer than I did at DU. Well, my 1st time anyway.

[vadawg]

i think my apolitical common sense just didnt go down well there, i needed to tell them about my being injected anally with pineapple juice by the man in order to remotely view election shenanigans in florida in 2000 and then i would still be there.  Gotta say i am so loving the archives of stuff and barely half way through it all, but it brings back funny memories..

[Ballygrl]

Eddie Haskell (304 posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 04:56 PM
Original message
 
I was stopped at a PA State Police checkpoint today.

It was 10:14 a.m. and I was getting off an interstate on an exit to nowhere. They were stopping everyone and asking for photo ID. I thought this kind of harassment was illegal. Does anyone know what I'm required to supply? Do I have to answer questions about my destination or what I'm planning to do?

I actually got stopped yesterday, it looked like they were doing routine checks to see if people had their insurance and registration up to date, it looked like they were pulling over every 3rd or 4th car, the cop walked over and asked to see my insurance, registration and license, he was very nice, and I knew everything was up to date, he gave me everything back and thanked me, and I said no problem.

[franksolich]

Gotta say i am so loving the archives of stuff and barely half way through it all, but it brings back funny memories..

Geezuz, sir.  You are one brave man.

With 16,645 original topics and 237,065 comments in the DUmpster, that's a whale of reading.

Being a moderator from Day #7 of conservativecave (I missed out on being a founding member), I've of course read every single word that's ever appeared in the DUmpster--it's part of the job--but I'll be damned if I can remember, at any given time, more than 1% of it all.

[vadawg]

well mate i got plenty of time on my hands at the moment, im in a quiet part of work that allows me to read stuff for a whole shift, amazing how quickly you can get going once you start on the crazy train.

[franksolich]

well mate i got plenty of time on my hands at the moment, im in a quiet part of work that allows me to read stuff for a whole shift, amazing how quickly you can get going once you start on the crazy train.

I was shocked shitless, sir, when gathering statistics; I looked up all the comments of franksolich, and they ran into 1,489 pages.  That's "pages," not comments.

I had no idea, and have probably forgotten 99% of what I've ever written here, or anywhere else.

I'm sure I've said some silly things, some stupid things, some outrageous things, some nasty things, that normally one would regret and wish to hide, but it's all been said, and one can't change the past.  So one accepts, adapts, and moves on.

[vadawg]

Lol at the moment im in april of 2009 and enjoying the amazing adventures of UGP otherwise known as "tiddles, mistress of lithium" and how furrys are just like normal people apart from they are actually penguins and snails and stuff.   Almost pissing myself with laughter at the insanity of it.

[I_B_Perky]

I'm sorry, I don't believe this guy's story, at least from the random perspective. From what I understand you cannot just set up a roadblock randomly and start asking for people's license without due cause or just cause or whatever they call it. You can set up DUI checkpoints, which must be announced first, or like around here they have inspection sticker check points, which also must be announced beforehand.

Having said all that, maybe there was an escaped convict or a bank robber or some really bad rapist or murderer they were looking for. In any case Dummie, it was NOT RANDOM.

Besides... who is president now Dummie? Oh that's right! Obama. The eeevil Bush has been out of office for a couple years now.

YOU FAIL DUMBASS!!!!

[vadawg]

the fact that they stopped everyone negates the random, as you said it looks like they were acting on a BOLO (apb i think is another term used) and stopping every car looking for someone specifically.

[Ballygrl]

Not sure how it is in other States but around here we do have routine checkpoints where they check to make sure your insurance and registration is current, and these are done in the daytime so they're not looking for people drinking.

[I_B_Perky]

Liberal_in_LA  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-25-11 05:04 PM
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6. Happens to black folks all the time

Oh and while I am thinking about it... maybe if the blacks didn't commit most of the crimes per ratio (this is proven, no debate about it) the cops wouldn't be on the lookout for them, you Dumbass.

But it's all raaaacist. Fine. Here's my solution: Let everyone be able to carry a weapon... but the criminals and nuts of course. If you feel you are threatened, then it should be legal to open fire. Eventually the criminals, black, white, brown, green, whatever, will become an endangered species. Problem solved.

That's how we deal with it here in West by God Virginia. We are a polite society here and the criminals usually stick to meth making/drug dealing because they know if they try to rob someone they will get their ass shot off... and if they live, which doesn't happen too often,  they go to prison for a very long time.

[I_B_Perky]

the fact that they stopped everyone negates the random, as you said it looks like they were acting on a BOLO (apb i think is another term used) and stopping every car looking for someone specifically.

That happens around where I work from time to time. Some idiot robs the bank or the gas station up the street and they block off all the streets and check everyone driving through. If you're unlucky you are driving the same type of vehicle that the idiot used. That happened to me once. I showed the nice officer my ID, told him I was coming back from lunch, where I worked etc, and he thanked me and passed me thru.  No problem.

I'm not sure it works, but then I ain't the cops either. They usually catch them though.

[GOBUCKS]

The last time I saw a roadblock, it was being manned by Broderick Crawford, and his patrol car had a gumball machine on its roof.

[DefiantSix]

The last time I saw a roadblock, it was being manned by Broderick Crawford, and his patrol car had a gumball machine on its roof.

Was that back when you and 'The Snowman' were running a load of Coors from Texas back to Georgia? 

[Evil_Conservative]

There are Border Patrol stops on the road north to Tucson. You can't go from So. Az. to Tucson without being stopped.

Really? 

My husband & I drove that way a few times while living in Arizona.  Never pulled over.  It must be you.

[GOBUCKS]

Was that back when you and 'The Snowman' were running a load of Coors from Texas back to Georgia?

Uh, no. It would have been nearly twenty years before trucks had CB radios.

[BlueStateSaint]

i think my apolitical common sense just didnt go down well there, i needed to tell them about my being injected anally with pineapple juice by the man in order to remotely view election shenanigans in florida in 2000 and then i would still be there.

Done by a ghost chicken named Blackie?

[vadawg]

i never tire of reading UGP post, i swear to the almighty that someone should make a sitcom out of them.  crazy as distended testicles.