It's illegal, the war in Libya is illegal.

[Freeper]

MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:28 AM
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It's illegal, the war in Libya is illegal.
   
The House refused to vote President Barack Obama the authority for U.S. military operations against Libya on Friday but stopped short of cutting off funds for the mission, a mixed message reminiscent of congressional unease on Vietnam and more recent wars.

In a repudiation of the commander in chief, the House voted overwhelmingly against a resolution that would have favored letting the mission continue for one year while barring U.S. ground forces, a resolution the president said he would welcome.
<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43521037/ns/politics-capito... />

My bet though is that the president will do what other presidents have done in this regard, damn the legalities, damned the constitutionality, and full speed ahead with the war.

More of that change thing? I think not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1361080

Followed by a whole bunch of posts screaming for impeachment and frog marching to the Hague.......

Just kidding.

aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:30 AM
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1. UN action. We are members of the UN.
   
Try to remember that.

So the UN supersedes our Constitution?

OnlinePoker (708 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:38 AM
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6. So was Iraq.
   
That doesn't make it any less repugnant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

The only UN authorization in Libya is a no fly zone. Bombing the crap out of buildings goes against the spirit of the resolution.

If this was Bush you would be screaming Impeachment, frogmarching, etc.

BOG PERSON (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:35 AM
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3. when the President does it, that means that it is not illegal (n/t)

You forgot one word in there lemme fix it for you,

BOG PERSON (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:35 AM
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3. when the Democratic President does it, that means that it is not illegal (n/t)

MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:38 AM
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5. Umm, only Congress has the power to authorize war,
   
With modifications for emergency actions, yes, but the time limit has run out, and Obama has exceeded his authority.

No calls for impeachment etc.

Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:41 AM
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8. Leave it to a Dem to expand executive authority for war
   
Hey, there are civilians in danger in Libya and everything, but there will someday be another Republican behind that desk. Who knows what they'll do with this precedent, not to mention the knowledge that there will be no consequences for their actions because Dem administrations "look forward".
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Distant Observer (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:44 AM
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10. Cheney Doctrine, right.

That's right folks not one single call for impeachment.

[Bodadh]

They may not have used the I word but I am stunned they were actually grousing about THE WON.

Could it be that even the DU is starting to realize that Hope and Change was just another hacky hokey and empty election slogan and the jr senator was not really cut out for the job?

A man can dream.

[Freeper]

They may not have used the I word but I am stunned they were actually grousing about THE WON.

Could it be that even the DU is starting to realize that Hope and Change was just another hacky hokey and empty election slogan and the jr senator was not really cut out for the job?

A man can dream.

They never will use the I word, they are hypocrites.
In fact if Bush had taken out 0sama like 0bama did, that would have been declared a war crime by the left.
 

[MrsSmith]

Number of Senators that voted for the "illegal" war in Iraq - 77

Number of Senators that voted for the actually illegal war in  Libya - 0

DUmmies -   

the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq

[BlueStateSaint]

They never will use the I word, they are hypocrites.
In fact if Bush had taken out 0sama like 0bama did, that would have been declared a war crime by the left.
 

Steel on target.  H5.

[VivisMom]

Where all all the posts demanding impeachment??? 

[franksolich]

Where all all the posts demanding impeachment??? 

You got me, madam.

I thought for sure there'd be lots of them.

[thelaughingman]

So if we start calling for "chimpeachment," would that be racist now?

[VivisMom]

So if we start calling for "chimpeachment," would that be racist now?

 

[TVDOC]

You got me, madam.

I thought for sure there'd be lots of them.

You DO realize that there is a significant portion of the Dem base that would be carrying anti-war signs even if the Russians, or Chinese were rolling tanks down Broadway in New York.........

doc

[MrsSmith]

You DO realize that there is a significant portion of the Dem base that would be carrying anti-war signs even if the Russians, or Chinese were rolling tanks down Broadway in New York.........

doc

Seriously, they'd be leading the "parade."  At least until the decision was made to get rid of the useful idiots.

[FreeBorn]

They never will use the I word, they are hypocrites.
In fact if Bush had taken out 0sama like 0bama did, that would have been declared a war crime by the left.
 

Hallelujah ^

[GOBUCKS]

Where all all the posts demanding impeachment??? 

They don't demand chimpeachment because lots of DUmmies have no idea who would replace the Kenyan.
A lot of them are afraid it would be Boehner or Palin. (And, ultimately, it may be.)

[miskie]

That is all.

[Tucker]

aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat Jun-25-11 10:30 AM
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1. UN action. We are members of the UN.
   
Try to remember that.

This pic is dedicated to a quart low.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Pros and cons of the op and its legality (Or lack thereof) aside, it's hard to beat the comedic value of Gates babbling ridiculous phrases like "Limited kinetic operation" with a straight face, just like the words actually meant something.