primitives discuss Democrats being mayors of poorest cities

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1354498

Oh my.

I omitted all the primitive comments about states because the campfire's about cities.

Maraya1969  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jun-24-11 01:15 AM
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A little help with this right winged email saying porest cities have Dem Mayors

.....part of campfire deleted, as it's not relevant to the topic.....

EMAIL

TEN POOREST CITIES

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level

1. Detroit , MI 32.5%

2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%

3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%

4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%

5. Miami , FL 26.9%

5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%

7. El Paso , TX 26.4%

8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%

9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%

10. Newark , NJ 24.2%

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest Poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961.

Buffalo , NY (2nd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954.

Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984.

Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989.

Miami , FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor.

St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949.

El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.

Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908.

Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952.

Newark , NJ (10th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.

It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats
Yet they are still POOR!

"You cannot help the poor
By destroying the rich.

You cannot strengthen the weak
By weakening the strong.

I dunno what's in that e-mail to refute, but one can trust the primitives to try.....

CaliforniaPeggy  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jun-24-11 01:26 AM
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2. Los Angeles has a Dem mayor, and it's not a poor city.

I'm not sure what else to say, sorry.

pnwmom  (1000+ posts)      Fri Jun-24-11 01:32 AM
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4. Washington state has a Dem Governor and 2 Dem Senators.

There is a simple reason why those poorer cities don't have Republican mayors -- they know Republican mayors don't care about poorer people. So they don't vote for them.

demosincebirth  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jun-24-11 01:36 AM
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7. San Francisco, is a very rich city and has a dem mayor. Has for a long time, too.

jmowreader  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jun-24-11 04:35 AM
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11. Okay, I'll play with this

Top 10 Poorest Cities in America:

1. Detroit, MI 32.5%; rust belt city whose economy was destroyed by Ronald Reagan's tax policies

2. Buffalo, NY 29.9%; rust belt city whose economy was destroyed by Ronald Reagan's tax policies

3. Cincinnati, OH 27.8%; rust belt city whose economy was destroyed by Ronald Reagan's tax policies

4. Cleveland, OH 27.0%; rust belt city whose economy was destroyed by Ronald Reagan's tax policies

5. Miami, FL 26.9%; there are two issues here: one is the very large number of people who live and work in Metro Dade County but who don't live in Miami itself--basically, "white flight" but a lot of the flyers weren't white. The other is, after Hurricane Andrew decimated Metro Dade County, many of the people who could afford to leave South Florida, did--leaving the poor people within the city limits. Besides, if you were going to live down there and you had a lot of money, wouldn't you rather live on Islamorada?

5. St. Louis, MO 26.8%; victim of "white flight" as the people with money moved to the suburbs

7. El Paso, TX 26.4%. Racial composition of El Paso: 75 percent Mexican, 5 percent non-Mexican Hispanic, 20 percent everything else. Median family income $35,432. Median household size is 3, and the federal poverty level for a family of 3 is $18,530. You figure it out.

8. Milwaukee, WI 26.2%; rust belt city whose economy was destroyed by Ronald Reagan's tax policies

9. Philadelphia, PA 25.1%. White flight; Philadelphia ALSO has the fourth-highest GDP of any city in America.

10. Newark, NJ 24.2%; white flight victim thanks to the 1967 riots. (That Newark mayors tend to end their terms of office in federal prison doesn't help either...)

* * * * *the "rust belt" was a Jimmy Carter phenomenon, from the late 1970s* * * * *

One wishes the primitives would quit mixing Ronald Reagan up with Jimmy Carter.

It's not as if it's hard to tell the difference.

melm00se (1000+ posts)      Fri Jun-24-11 05:53 AM
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12. Buffalo's problem is not the mayor

it's a combination of things:

1) white flight from when Judge Sedita ordered the desegregation of just the Buffalo Public Schools instead of the entire county

2) a fiefdom mentality of politicians (regardless of political affiliation): they can't/won't take steps that will help if those actions diminish their power.

3) Balkanization of Erie County: there are tons of little towns, villages and cities within Erie County which creates an incredible amount inefficiencies and redundancies. For example: I lived in an apartment in an inner ring suburb and within 2 miles there were 5 police departments, 5 fire departments and 5 complete city/town/village government infrastructures. all of those COULD be consolidated down to 1 which would free up a ton of tax revenue to address the area's problems but that will never happen as the suburbs view Buffalo as a giant sinkhole/money pit that cannot be "saved".

(30 year resident until I got fed up with the situation and hit the door like so many of my age group did)

blogslut  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jun-24-11 07:56 AM
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13. Here's a very easy solution

Stop responding to forwarded/chain/lazy/why-are-you-sending-me-this-bullshit emails.

I don't care who they are, friend or relative - when someone I know begins to email this unimaginative crap instead of real communication I warn them quite plainly: "Send me one more of these copy/paste/forward things again and I will block your email address."

And I've done just just that. If someone I care about can't be bothered to send me their original thoughts then I won't be bothered by their spam.

[dandi]

blogslut  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jun-24-11 07:56 AM
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13. Here's a very easy solution

Stop responding to forwarded/chain/lazy/why-are-you-sending-me-this-bullshit emails.

I don't care who they are, friend or relative - when someone I know begins to email this unimaginative crap instead of real communication I warn them quite plainly: "Send me one more of these copy/paste/forward things again and I will block your email address."

 

[franksolich]

That's what I thought too, sir.

[Bodadh]

I don't think those cities are in trouble because of Dem mayors. They are in trouble because the majority of the people in those cities are the kind of people who vote Dem. The people are the symptom, the mayors are the sign.

[NHSparky]

Newsflash, DUmmies--Democrats LIKE to keep you poor and downtrodden as you'll keep voting for them every time they tell you that you're too ****ing stupid to make it without THEIR help.

[Rebel]

I don't think those cities are in trouble because of Dem mayors. They are in trouble because the majority of the people in those cities are the kind of people who vote Dem. The people are the symptom, the mayors are the sign.

In a nutshell. People continue to want to blame the politicians, but that's not getting to the root of the problem. A politician is only a reflection of his/her state or district.

[USA4ME]

pnwmom

There is a simple reason why those poorer cities don't have Republican mayors -- they know Republican mayors don't care about poorer people. So they don't vote for them.

IOW these people have determined they're always going to be poor, so vote for the party that will pity them rather than try and light a fire under them to lift them up.  This is the picture of a Dem/lib utopia.

.

[Wineslob]

Dummies meet mirror, ignore warnings..............

[Tucker]

mowreader  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jun-24-11 04:35 AM
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11. Okay, I'll play with this

Top 10 Poorest Cities in America:

1. Detroit, MI 32.5%; rust belt city whose economy was destroyed by Ronald Reagan's tax policies

It goes back further than that. Colman A. Young was elected in 74. He was as corrupt as they come.

[jukin]

More accurately, would be to note that all of those cities were previously prosperous before years of liberal leadership. It's not that the democrats are taking very poor communities and making them less poor. They are taking rich cities and making them horrendously poor. Sadly that is the inevitable result of socialism/communism/regressivism that the DUmbasses are so in love with.

[franksolich]

Isn't the primitives admitting to "white flight" as a factor, racist?

Isn't it suggesting that only whites can be successful and prosperous, and that blacks need whites to pull the city up, because blacks can't do it themselves?

I think it's foully racist to suggest that.

[GOBUCKS]

Well, political considerations aside, I agree with the DUmmy on "forwarded/chain/lazy/why-are-you-sending-me-this-bullshit emails".

Whenever I receive a "cute" forwarded personal e-mail that doesn't include a word from the sender, I delete without reading.

"Cute" forwarded e-mails are a scourge of modern life.

They are the computerized bastard child of those egomaniacal, interminable, offensively boring and stupid "Christmas letters" that some otherwise normal people insist on sending.

[delilahmused]

Okay, if it's Reagan's fault wouldn't that do more to support the importance of an autonomous local government as opposed to a bunch of central planners? Because it's obvious to me that without the heavy hand of the federal government these benevolent, caring democrat mayors would have made their cities places richly flowing with milk and honey where everyone who wanted a job would have one and those that don't would be wrapped in the loving arms of their fellow citizens who are more than happy to take care of their neighbors from cradle to grave.

Cindie

[I_B_Perky]

I figured they would have said it was all Bush's fault.

[ChuckJ]

Isn't the primitives admitting to "white flight" as a factor, racist?

Isn't it suggesting that only whites can be successful and prosperous, and that blacks need whites to pull the city up, because blacks can't do it themselves?

I think it's foully racist to suggest that.

I thought the same exact thing frank.

[GOBUCKS]

Isn't the primitives admitting to "white flight" as a factor, racist?

Isn't it suggesting that only whites can be successful and prosperous, and that blacks need whites to pull the city up, because blacks can't do it themselves?

I think it's foully racist to suggest that.

Racism most foul, indeed. One need only look at the thriving, prosperous, predominantly black cities all over the United States - in fact, all over the world. It's especially true in the ones with conservative govenments that champion the freedoms and rights of the individual to work hard and succeed.

[Tucker]

Racism most foul, indeed. One need only look at the thriving, prosperous, predominantly black cities all over the United States - in fact, all over the world. It's especially true in the ones with conservative govenments that champion the freedoms and rights of the individual to work hard and succeed.

prosperous cities under black control. Hell you might even become President of some country some day.



A gated community.



A WPA site for future Mayors.

http://www.junglephotos.com/africa/afpeople/afwork/hutconstruct.shtml

[docstew]

I don't think those cities are in trouble because of Dem mayors. They are in trouble because the majority of the people in those cities are the kind of people who vote Dem. The people are the symptom, the mayors are the sign.

No disputing the point you made, but technically the people would be the underlying disease (as in the parasite that kills the host) and the mayors are the sign...