DUmmies Discuss Another One Killed By The Freepers

[GOBUCKS]

DUmmy Billy Burnett is weeping again, like his role model Omaha Steve:

Billy Burnett  (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-18-11 02:25 PM
Original message
I am grieving the imminent death of one of my closest friends. due to Gov Rick Scott
My dearest lifelong pal, worked hard in construction his whole life, good dad, good husband, a good kind and decent man, hit hard by the crash and fell off of a cliff with a genetic liver defect, was on a medicaid liver transplant list that Gov Rick Scott dispensed with.

Between weeping sessions, I'm saying **** the Republicans!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1322756
Governor Scott crossed the line when he started screwing around with genetics.
God, I hope this doesn't result in another one of those nauseating "RIP, DUmmy" threads.


Poor, stupid Beth has a tender message:

EFerrari  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-18-11 02:28 PM
Response to Original message
3. Billy, I'm so sorry.

Yeah, **** Republicans. 

libmom74 (338 posts)        Sat Jun-18-11 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. Rick Scott understands
he just doesn't care. I wonder when the American people are going to get tired of the wealthy killing (yes killing, through neglect starvation, homelessness and denial of healthcare) their parents, children, their spouses, their friends and neighbours?

 
I can't recall ever having killed a poor person, but the DUmmy doesn't specify the net worth you need in order to qualify for blame. If the Dow edges up just a little, maybe I will. It's good to have goals in life.

Cleita  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-18-11 02:37 PM
Response to Original message
9. I'm so sorry. I hope you document every minute of
what's left of his life until his death and put it on YouTube for the world to see, a death that didn't have to happen. Then send a copy to Gov. Scott and every newspaper and local news TV and radio stations. Maybe someone will air it.

The democrat networks aired shit like that for 8 years while Dubya was in office. People quit dying about the same time the homeless population disappeared. I wonder if there's a connection.

MadMaddie (1000+ posts)      Sat Jun-18-11 03:02 PM
Response to Original message
12. My condolences to you, your friend and his family
Every single death needs to be directly linked to Rick Scott! The deaths need to recognized as part of his selfish, criminal policies.

People with democrat governors enjoy life everlasting.

[franksolich]

How can a governor--any governor, any state--delete an organ-transplant waiting-list?

I think there's more to this than the primitive's letting on.

[Ballygrl]

I guess they never heard Robert Reich's comments? or Ezechiel Emanuels comments?

[franksolich]

I guess they never heard Robert Reich's comments? or Ezechiel Emmanuels comments?

I believe the governor of Florida is about as responsible for this, as George Bush is for the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.

I think the primitive woke up this morning in a grouchy mood, and decided to find something, anything, to blame on evil Republicans, and this was randomly chosen.  Made up out of thin air, this notion that a governor can delete an organ-transplant waiting-list.

[Ballygrl]

It looks like Florida outsourced Medicaid to some private insurers.

[franksolich]

Well, shit.  I google all over, and find only one news-story.

http://jacksonville.com/news/health-and-fitness/2011-06-14/story/shands-jacksonville-kidney-transplant-program-disarray

Shands Jacksonville kidney transplant program in disarray
Documents show Shands Jacksonville was failing 6 of 12 federal standards when it ended program voluntarily.

In the waning days of the kidney transplant program at Shands Jacksonville, the hospital's executives faced a stark decision: Shut down the ailing center themselves or risk it being closed by federal regulators.

Documents obtained by the Times-Union in a public records request show that the 20-year-old program was in disarray leading up to its voluntary Jan. 12 shutdown. The hospital's top compliance officer emailed her bosses six days earlier with a grim internal assessment, revealing that the program failed to meet six of 12 federal standards.

The problems included:

- Patients' three-year survival rates falling to levels lower than regulators would expect given their prior health.

- A failure to follow its own "adverse events" policy. The reviewer investigated two known cases in which a staff error compromised a transplant's success and found that no one followed up to find out what caused the mistakes or took steps to ensure they didn't happen again.

- An abundance of record-keeping issues. In one of the most egregious examples, half of the patients on the waiting list were actually ineligible for a transplant. And nearly half of the surgery files reviewed were missing at least some data pertaining to the patients' eligibility......

And on and on and on.  And the name of the governor of Florida isn't even in the article.

This is the ONLY news-story about organ transplants in Florida.

[sybilll]

How can a governor--any governor, any state--delete an organ-transplant waiting-list?

I think there's more to this than the primitive's letting on.

They can't, of course.  A friend of mine is a transplant coordinator.  Candidates for liver transplant are denied when they have a lengthy history of drinking and/or drug abuse.  They are treated, at great expense to the Medicaid system, and are kept alive as long as possible.  
So yeah, this friend fell off a cliff.  And landed on their last fix.  

[franksolich]

They can't, of course.  A friend of mine is a transplant coordinator.  Candidates for liver transplant are denied when they have a lengthy history of drinking and/or drug abuse.  They are treated, at great expense to the Medicaid system, and are kept alive as long as possible.  
So yeah, this friend fell off a cliff.  And landed on their last fix.  

Thank you, madam.

I was truly perplexed as to how such a thing would happen.

[GOBUCKS]

They can't, of course.  A friend of mine is a transplant coordinator.  Candidates for liver transplant are denied when they have a lengthy history of drinking and/or drug abuse.  

Mickey Mantle had a liver transplant and hardly skipped a happy hour.
That was years ago, though, when it was more an expensive scientific stunt than a realistic treatment.

[franksolich]

Mickey Mantle had a liver transplant and hardly skipped a happy hour.
That was years ago, though, when it was more an expensive scientific stunt than a realistic treatment.

But a primitive, or a primitive's friend, would hardly be in the same physical shape and have the same attitude about things, as Mickey Mantle.  Those things are significant.

[sybilll]

But a primitive, or a primitive's friend, would hardly be in the same physical shape and have the same attitude about things, as Mickey Mantle.  Those things are significant.

I doubt Mantle was indigent either. 

[franksolich]

This whole thing is simply manufactured faux outrage.

It's a pity the guy's dying, but Rick Scott had nothing to do with it.

Probably he ****ed up his liver by too much drugs and alcohol, and can't be salvaged.

And maybe possibly perhaps someone wrote a letter to Rick Scott, begging and pleading that he be allowed on the list anyway.  But a governor--any governor, any state--has no say in such matters, and that may have been the response of Rick Scott.

Which a primitive, because of lesser-developed cerebral capacities, would misinterpret as a lack of concern on the part of the governor of Florida.  "He could do something, but he won't."

This is so much bullshit, trying to blame the (R) governor of Florida.

But of course the primitives are masters at inventing bullshit.

[Ballygrl]

They can't, of course.  A friend of mine is a transplant coordinator.  Candidates for liver transplant are denied when they have a lengthy history of drinking and/or drug abuse.  They are treated, at great expense to the Medicaid system, and are kept alive as long as possible.  
So yeah, this friend fell off a cliff.  And landed on their last fix.

And guys, Sybilll lives in Florida, she knows of what she speaks.

[Ballygrl]

Mickey Mantle had a liver transplant and hardly skipped a happy hour.
That was years ago, though, when it was more an expensive scientific stunt than a realistic treatment.

Mickey Mantle wasn't on Medicaid though.

[GOBUCKS]

The Mick wasn't on Medicaid, but I thought the policy today was that you had to qualify for a waiting list, regardless of how the bill was paid. That, if you're a hopeless Pittian alcoholic, killing yourself with cirrhosis, you would not get priority for a donor organ. But that was just my impression. I have no direct knowledge of how the waiting list system works.

Of course, money is involved. If you're a billionaire computer company founder, I'm sure you can pay the Red Chinese to slice whatever organs you need out of a freshly-killed enemy of the state. (It's one reason they use a pistol headshot for executions, rather than lethal injection.)

Democrats see government as the source of their daily bread. Their sustenance depends on government policies and agencies. So whenever someone dies, their natural reaction is that it has to be due to a government failure of some kind.

[Airwolf]

And yet they happily kill the unborn like it was nothing more then wiping dirt from their shoes.

[MrsSmith]

This looks like something that's going to happen more and more...  

Medicaid Pushes U.S. States Off ‘Cliff’ as Governors Seek Cuts

By Christopher Palmeri and Pat Wechsler - Dec 21, 2010 11:01 PM CT


States such as Arizona have stopped paying for heart, liver and other transplants.

Washington State may not pay for glasses anymore. Massachusetts already chopped dentures. As of Oct. 1, North Carolina no longer covers surgery for the clinically obese.

Governors nationwide are taking a scalpel to Medicaid, the jointly run state and federal health-care program for 48 million poor Americans, half of whom are children. The single biggest expense for states, Medicaid consumes about 22 percent of their total $1.6 trillion in expenditures, more than what is allocated to elementary and secondary education, according to a National Governors Association report.

....


Under the 2009 stimulus bill and the 2010 health overhaul backed by President Barack Obama, states can’t reduce Medicaid eligibility below a prescribed level.

...

Some states may seek help from private insurers to reduce expenses...

It doesn't seem to add up to being all Rick Scott's decision, does it?  In fact, it would seem that much (if not most) of the blame should go to Pres Obama, his lousy economic sense, and his stupid healthcare law.  After all, Rick Scott doesn't have the option to borrow from China or just print more money...

[JohnnyReb]

I'm not going to gooogle it but a few years back, prisoners with life sentences were getting transplants at state expense...what a waste of organs and money.

[Traveshamockery]

I wish the DUmmies would think these situations through.   In their quest to welcome more democratic voters in by way of illegal immigration, do they not realize the same illegal immigrants have put a devastating strain on all social  programs in the states, especially Medicaid.  Common sense and logical thinking is not a part of the DUmmies' genetic makeup.   

[JohnnyReb]

I wish the DUmmies would think these situations through.   In their quest to welcome more democratic voters in by way of illegal immigration, do they not realize the same illegal immigrants have put a devastating strain on all social  programs in the states, especially Medicaid.  Common sense and logical thinking is not a part of the DUmmies' genetic makeup.   

Their DNA is a few spirals short of being a liquorish stick.

[Skul]

I smell a bouncy.

[franksolich]

I smell a bouncy.

I've been smelling something that says the (R) governor of Florida had nothing to do with it.

[Tucker]

Cleita  (1000+ posts)        Sat Jun-18-11 02:37 PM
Response to Original message
9. I'm so sorry. I hope you document every minute of
what's left of his life until his death and put it on YouTube for the world to see, a death that didn't have to happen. Then send a copy to Gov. Scott and every newspaper and local news TV and radio stations. Maybe someone will air it.

What we have here is a future headlines for the National Enquirer.

[Skul]

I've been smelling something that says the (R) governor of Florida had nothing to do with it.

You have an acute sense of smell, old boy.

[GOBUCKS]

If Medicaid didn't have to cover medical costs for millions of illegal Mexicans, Billy's buddy could have two or three livers, plus a new lung and a facelift.