dorkio primitive is an INTP

[franksolich]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1302948

Oh my.

MrScorpio  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-15-11 06:17 PM
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I'm an INTP

Basically, it's a particular Myers-Briggs personality personality type. I must warn you, what I'm about to say to everyone here will be said in a very typical INTP fashion. Please bear with me, if you will.

http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html

INTPs only make up 2% to 3% of the general population. Given that we make up such a limited percentage, it should stand to reason that most people aren't going to come across us that often and when they do, we may confuse them because they don't understand us.

Actually, that's OK, because most of us have anticipated that reaction.

However, we strive to understand ourselves above all. It's in our nature.

But not only do we strive to understand ourselves, we strive to understand THINGS and other people, of course. We are driven by the belief that we do not have all the answers and are always on the look out for new facts, new perspectives and even new opinions. We feel that the truth can be as amorphous as it can be concrete. But we feel that actual facts and logic are the keys to finding whatever truths are there.

We ask questions. Maybe some people don't like to answer those questions. To us, such a reaction is an answer in itself.

Most of the time, we prefer to go with the flow. But only if we believe that flow is worth going with, then if we won't… And let me quote from the linked article to elaborate:

INTPs do not like to lead or control people. They're very tolerant and flexible in most situations, unless one of their firmly held beliefs has been violated or challenged, in which case they may take a very rigid stance.

We tend to point out things that we don't think are correct or even fully thought through, even if those things are sacred cows. Something like that doesn't aways encourage everyone to be happy campers. But we is who we is...

In other words and from my perspective, that's where some of the conflict that I find myself getting into about certain issues on DU stems from. What I really want to do is have a deep discussion, and at times I may challenge widely held assertions, especially if all the facts as I see them don't coincide. If these assertions stand up to challenges, I like most other INTPs, will concede. You see, if we believe that they do coincide, then we're all hunky dory with that.

Also from this, which admittedly is a prevalent shortcoming for INTPs:

The INTP has no understanding or value for decisions made on the basis of personal subjectivity or feelings. They strive constantly to achieve logical conclusions to problems, and don't understand the importance or relevance of applying subjective emotional considerations to decisions. For this reason, INTPs are usually not in-tune with how people are feeling, and are not naturally well-equiped to meet the emotional needs of others.

Understanding this reaction, I usually suggest to folks that I've pissed off for one reason or another to tell me that they're pissed off and, if they're wont, why. AS a matter of fact, I'm quite sure that I've been told to my face that I'm an idiot for this very reason. Of course, anyone otherwise attuned, coming across any INTP who does not consider their subjective emotional considerations won't be happy about that situation. And recriminations will ensue.

I'm quite sure that this OP will piss some of you off, for whatever reason. And that's fine, I accept that.

There is one thing that I should point out to everyone here… If I don't like a person, I have no qualms telling them that I don't like them and if they'd like to hear it, I'd even tell them why. Except for trolls and Republicans, most of them do not post here, I don't dislike anyone else on this board.

But I should point out, that I never want to sow discord, merely for the sake of sowing discord. I don't like discord, and frankly that is the last thing that I want to do here. I wouldn't even be here if that is what I'm up to. I'd be pissing off wingers and trolling their boards someplace else.

I'm just trying to get to the heart of any particular matter, even the sensitive ones. I should point out that telling any INTP that he or she shouldn't consider any subject that comes to their attention is going to fall on deaf ears. The key to getting an INTP to stop paying attention to something to help him or her fully understand it. Once something is fully understood by an INTP, they will rarely revisit it… Unless conditions change.

I know that I'm not always elegant in the way that I approach those answers, and I really do appreciate it with others point out my apparent lack of skills. I'm only human.

Lastly, I want to tell you all that this post is a hard thing for me to write. I really hate making MrScorpio the center of attention… I love it when my ideas and observations are appreciated or even challenged… But I really hate making things about me. I know some people, and they have pointed this out before, don't want to hear me making things about me, whether or not it's my intention. Knowing how other people are, I really don't blame them.

So, to those of your who are inclined to either rec or unrec this OP, I would prefer it if you don't.

If you don't don't understand anything that I've written or even don't give a ****… I understand and it's fine by me.

INTPs are a rare minority and things happen the way that they do.

To anyone who I have pissed off, I'm sorry.

Well, that's all fine and good, that the dorkio primitive's an INTP.

And many other primitives went to take the test to determine what they are.

And franksolich followed them.

However, when franksolich showed up to take the test, this computer said it wasn't going there because something was "irregular" or "suspicious" about the web-site addresses.  I dunno what's up with that, but I couldn't go there.

So alas the world'll never know what personality type franksolich is.

[Duke Nukum]

2%-3% of the population? Does that make Mr. Dorkio gay?

And are the INTP's in some kind of club? Has he met others of the INTP variety? He seems to be putting an awful lot of words into the mouth's of people he couldn't have possibly have met, being that they are so rare.

I don't know of Mr. Dorkio is rare, so much as half-baked.

[thundley4]

The INTP has no understanding or value for decisions made on the basis of personal subjectivity or feelings. They strive constantly to achieve logical conclusions to problems, and don't understand the importance or relevance of applying subjective emotional considerations to decisions. For this reason, INTPs are usually not in-tune with how people are feeling, and are not naturally well-equiped to meet the emotional needs of others.

Bull Shirt. Not a single DUmmie fits that description.  They are all about selfish feelings and desires. Logic is an unknown realm to them, just like facts are.

[franksolich]

Bull Shirt. Not a single DUmmie fits that description.  They are all about selfish feelings and desires. Logic is an unknown realm to them, just like facts are.

Well, they sort of do, sir.

This part:

INTPs are usually not in-tune with how people are feeling, and are not naturally well-equiped to meet the emotional needs of others.

I'd say that's a pretty good analysis.

[Ballygrl]

WTF? another personality disorder added to the books?

[franksolich]

WTF? another personality disorder added to the books?

I'm no psychiatrist, of course, but something is interesting here.

Read v-e-r-y c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y that part our esteemed colleague thundley4 objected to, and put into quotes.

Read it very carefully, very slowly, and then think about it.

To me, that sounds as if the description of a sociopath.

Really.  No feelings, no emotions, unable to relate to others.

[GOBUCKS]

I could not read through that truckload of psychobabble horse shit.
Mr. Scorpio is a DUmbass. Nothing more, nothing less.
If that's what INTP LS/MFT, or whatever, means, then it's on target.

[USA4ME]

Oh baloney!!  The boy primitive has found his way on the bad side of the twinkies on Skin's island and now he's looking for a way to keep doing what he's doing yet have an excuse so they can't get on his case about it.  This dolt isn't even clever by half.

I don't know what 4 letters of the little test he found represents an introverted, emotion driven, bed-wetting, dependent, self-annointed know-it-all, but that would best describe the boy primitive, as well as most of the primitives.

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[franksolich]

Oh baloney!!  The boy primitive has found his way on the bad side of the twinkies on Skin's island and now he's looking for a way to keep doing what he's doing yet have an excuse so they can't get on his case about it.  This dolt isn't even clever by half.

I don't know what 4 letters of the little test he found represents an introverted, emotion driven, bed-wetting, dependent, self-annointed know-it-all, but that would best describe the boy primitive, as well as most of the primitives.

I still think it clearly shows the dorkio primitive to be a sociopath, sir.

[Duke Nukum]

Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Perceiving

[franksolich]

Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Perceiving

= apparently if carried to an extreme = sociopath.

[Celtic Rose]

= apparently if carried to an extreme = sociopath.

I wouldn't be surprised. 

[franksolich]

I wouldn't be surprised. 

The dorkio primitive's the type.

Have you ever seen him, madam?

He's shaped like a pineapple with a miniature pineapple on top, as his head.

If I looked that way, I'd be nuts too.

[GOBUCKS]

Introverted iNtuitive Thinking Perceiving = apparently if carried to an extreme = sociopath

= DUmbass.

[Celtic Rose]

Also, a point of clarification for the Mr. Scorpio, 2-3% is not an unnoticeable percentage of the population, though I think some estimates put INTP at 1-5%.  If I'm not mistaken, 2% of Americans have red hair.  Think for a minute about how many redhead you know or have seen recently. To assume that nobody knows somebody with your personality type is the height of arrogance (which I suspect tends to go with the INTP personality type.)  I think many "nerds" would fall into this category, especially ones who have difficulty in social situations.  I think my brother actually falls into this category. 

By the way, the last time I took this test, I was an INFJ, which reportedly constitutes 1-3% of the population, so I'm more rare than Mr. Scorpio 

[dandi]

Jungian psychobabble. Those personality descriptions read like Zodiac signs, or the "What Year Were You Born?" (Year Of The Rat, Year Of The Monkey, etc.) stuff you see on the placemats in a Chinese restaurant.

[Duke Nukum]

Aw, you took away his specialness.

I wonder what percent of the populations people who enjoy Opera are?

[Celtic Rose]

Jungian psychobabble. Those personality descriptions read like Zodiac signs, or the "What Year Were You Born?" (Year Of The Rat, Year Of The Monkey, etc.) stuff you see on the placemats in a Chinese restaurant.

They are interesting to read, but yeah, I wouldn't give them any special significance. 

[dutch508]

Also, a point of clarification for the Mr. Scorpio, 2-3% is not an unnoticeable percentage of the population, though I think some estimates put INTP at 1-5%.  If I'm not mistaken, 2% of Americans have red hair.  Think for a minute about how many redhead you know or have seen recently. To assume that nobody knows somebody with your personality type is the height of arrogance (which I suspect tends to go with the INTP personality type.)  I think many "nerds" would fall into this category, especially ones who have difficulty in social situations.  I think my brother actually falls into this category. 

By the way, the last time I took this test, I was an INFJ, which reportedly constitutes 1-3% of the population, so I'm more rare than Mr. Scorpio 

Gaaaaaaa! All redheads are psychos!!!!!

[Celtic Rose]

Gaaaaaaa! All redheads are psychos!!!!!

Of course we are    But we're quiet about it because it is easier to take over the world that way. 

[delilahmused]

They are interesting to read, but yeah, I wouldn't give them any special significance. 

Yeah, but psychologists sure like them. I took one a few years ago and was an ENFP (I think). It was a long damn test. I think they just like dispensing pills better when they know what kind of crazy you are.

Cindie

[Alpha Mare]

I haven't heard anyone mention Myers-Briggs since the 70's. Damn dork, get with the times.

[franksolich]

Aw, you took away his specialness.

That was the whole ulterior motive.

The dorkio primitive wanted to point out that he's "special."

Ho-hum.

franksolich was one of 19,000 infants born the year he was born, with a peculiar sort of birth defect that absented the ears.

Whoop-whoop-de-do.

By the time those 19,000 would've attained 35 years of age--half the proverbial threescore-and-ten--2,700 of us were still in this time and place.

Whoop-whoop-de-do.  We're "special."

I think I can outdo the dorkio primitive at this "special" business, but it's all rather silly, even stupid.

One suspects the dorkio primitive needs to do a little work so as to be "special" to God, because that's all that matters in the end.

[Chris_]

They all want to feel 'special'.  God forbid they develop some kind of skill or marketable talent that would make them useful human beings.  Maybe then they would drop their incessant greed for the public dollar and whatever free ride they can cheat from the American taxpayer.

That's probably too much to ask.

[franksolich]

I don't know what 4 letters of the little test he found represents an introverted, emotion driven, bed-wetting, dependent, self-annointed know-it-all, but that would best describe the boy primitive, as well as most of the primitives.

I know there's many here who dismiss that as "psychobabble," which is fine, but if one were actually to read the dorkio primitive's profile of himself very carefully and very slowly, to the non-psychiatric layman it certainly paints the picture of a sociopath.

And knowing the primitives, that seems eminently credible.

The dorkio primitive's only hope for redemption and salvation (besides the obvious one) is that this is one of those dime-a-dozen internet "tests," too broad and too general to be of much use, and that the dorkio primitive lied in answering some of the questions, and so the profile really isn't him at all.