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Offline Mr Mannn

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Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« on: June 14, 2011, 05:09:42 PM »


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/14/boehner-gives-obama-friday-deadline-libya/
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In a letter sent Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Boehner, the top Republican in the constitutional chain of succession, said Mr. Obama must provide a clear justification for committing troops to Libya by Friday. Sunday marks the 90th day since the president notified Congress that U.S. troops had been committed to help enforce a no-fly zone over Libya, which is designed to protect the rebels fighting Col. Moammar Gadhafi’s government.

In a letter sent Tuesday afternoon, Mr. Boehner, the top Republican in the constitutional chain of succession, said Mr. Obama must provide a clear justification for committing troops to Libya by Friday, which marks the 90th day since the president committed U.S. troops, and the clock started ticking under the War Powers Resolution.

“The Constitution requires the president to ‘take care that the laws be faithfully executed,’ and one of those laws is the War Powers Resolution, which requires an approving action by Congress or withdrawal within 90 days from the notification of a military operation,” Mr. Boehner said in the letter.
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Well. Am I seeing a backbone in congress? The House has threatened to cut off funding.
This looks mighty interesting...
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 05:55:36 PM »
While libya is pointless and poorly-conceived with the military on a very ridiculous leash the WPA is unconstituional. Boehner is cutting off the balls of future Republican presidents to enforce a law passed by Democrats spitefully angry at a Republican president who fought a war started by a Democrat hero.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 06:09:57 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on June 14, 2011, 05:55:36 PM
While libya is pointless and poorly-conceived with the military on a very ridiculous leash the WPA is unconstituional. Boehner is cutting off the balls of future Republican presidents to enforce a law passed by Democrats spitefully angry at a Republican president who fought a war started by a Democrat hero.
That may be so, oh wise and powerful bunny. But its still law.
Until its challenged or repealed, it is a fun way to cudgel the president.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 06:17:59 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on June 14, 2011, 06:09:57 PM
That may be so, oh wise and powerful bunny. But its still law.
Until its challenged or repealed, it is a fun way to cudgel the president.

The reason it has gone unchalleged and unrepealed for so long is because neither branch wanted to roll their dice and lose.

We are setting a precedent where congress may seek to impose its own rules on how a president conducts war.

The founders rejected the Roman precedent of 2 military CinCs because of the politics, rivalries and indecision it brought. The WPA adds 535 extra CinCs into the mix.

The only saving grace will be the dems circling to protect Obama and thereby putting a stake into the heart of this ****er once and for all.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 06:40:02 PM »
I see this as Boehner is bluffing, and Barry knows it.

Boehner wouldn't cut off funding for military operations in Libya, because the Dems would make political hay with that. Dems would paint Boehner as cutting off ALL the troops from ALL funding and the Repubs would not only look like fools, it would cost them in the election next year.

I say these things because Boehner does NOT articulate a clear, unbridled message.

Barry will continue to obfuscate and spin and otherwise keep Boehner guessing.

The business with increasing the debt ceiling and how Boehner blinked is all the precedent I need to see.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 07:18:43 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on June 14, 2011, 06:40:02 PM
I see this as Boehner is bluffing, and Barry knows it.

Boehner wouldn't cut off funding for military operations in Libya, because the Dems would make political hay with that. Dems would paint Boehner as cutting off ALL the troops from ALL funding and the Repubs would not only look like fools, it would cost them in the election next year.

I say these things because Boehner does NOT articulate a clear, unbridled message.

Barry will continue to obfuscate and spin and otherwise keep Boehner guessing.

The business with increasing the debt ceiling and how Boehner blinked is all the precedent I need to see.

Hi,

Not sure if Boehner is bluffing or not but public opinion is likely on his side.  Once again idiot McCain is undercutting him like he did Bush.  His comment is that if a Republican was president would Boehner be doing the same thing.

Ummmmm, Mr. McCain, if a Republican was president he would have congressional approval first ya dummy!

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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2011, 08:28:00 AM »
Quote from: 5412 on June 14, 2011, 07:18:43 PM
Hi,

Not sure if Boehner is bluffing or not but public opinion is likely on his side.  Once again idiot McCain is undercutting him like he did Bush.  His comment is that if a Republican was president would Boehner be doing the same thing.

Ummmmm, Mr. McCain, if a Republican was president he would have congressional approval first ya dummy!

regards,
5412

Notice how McCain said, "If a REPUBLICAN was president," not, "If HE was president."  Telling difference, that.

And McRINO, had you OR a Republican been president (note the differentiation, please) there would have been far clearer goals, endgame, and then Congressional approval/notification.  You know, rule of law, shit like that.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2011, 11:45:08 AM »
Well the dead line has passed. Obama's response was the law doesn't apply to him because he's Obama and he knows a few semantic tricks.

Monday. Its almost here. Time to watch and see if the GOP can stick to their guns.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2011, 05:54:54 PM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on June 19, 2011, 11:45:08 AM
Well the dead line has passed. Obama's response was the law doesn't apply to him because he's Obama and he knows a few semantic tricks.

Monday. Its almost here. Time to watch and see if the GOP can stick to their guns.

I got a feeling that the GOP is gonna blink on this one.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2011, 07:37:59 PM »
If there was any way to place a bet, I would take you up on it..

Wait OK. I'll bet you 10 H5s that the GOP will cut funding. If I lose I'll H5 you 10 times...and visa versa.
How about it?
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2011, 05:29:11 AM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on June 19, 2011, 07:37:59 PM
If there was any way to place a bet, I would take you up on it..

Wait OK. I'll bet you 10 H5s that the GOP will cut funding. If I lose I'll H5 you 10 times...and visa versa.
How about it?

I'll take that bet sir.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2011, 11:40:42 AM »
Should have given him a deadline of today to at least request the authorization, whether Congress got off their ass to act on it or not.  Yesterday was 90 days.

Also should have included in the deadline words to the effect of "dropping bombs on people, whether from manned or unmanned planes, COUNTS as hostilities."
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2011, 04:27:02 PM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on June 14, 2011, 05:55:36 PM
While libya is pointless and poorly-conceived with the military on a very ridiculous leash the WPA is unconstituional. Boehner is cutting off the balls of future Republican presidents to enforce a law passed by Democrats spitefully angry at a Republican president who fought a war started by a Democrat hero.

Au contraire, Mr. Hare.  Previous Republican Presidents have more-or-less carefully followed the Resolution - passed by a Democrat Congress to foil a Republican President - despite grave reservations about its Constitutionality, precisely against the day when the shoe would be on the other foot.  That day has arrived, and it is time to reap the harvest. 
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2011, 05:01:44 PM »
Quote from: rich_t on June 20, 2011, 05:29:11 AM
I'll take that bet sir.

OK, your on. Lets give them till Friday to make the actual vote. OK?
and If I'll lose, I will have the weekend to make 10 visits and pay my debt.

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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2011, 07:39:49 AM »
Quote from: Mr Mannn on June 20, 2011, 05:01:44 PM
OK, your on. Lets give them till Friday to make the actual vote. OK?
and If I'll lose, I will have the weekend to make 10 visits and pay my debt.



Works for me.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2011, 05:18:14 AM »
Dang. Its Thursday morning....Nothing so far.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2011, 12:22:59 PM »


Move along folks ...

no balls here.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2011, 06:40:58 PM »
 Libya's costing us 2 mil a day. maybe its my turn to be be a war protester. feature that
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2011, 06:43:48 PM »
The House votes on it tomorrow.   

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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2011, 08:01:45 PM »
Quote from: Janice on June 23, 2011, 12:22:59 PM

Move along folks ...
no balls here.
How very true Janice.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2011, 06:14:20 AM »
Today is the day of decision....A LOT of conservatives will remember if our reps back down...
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2011, 06:36:02 AM »
Nothing will happen. Obama will state this provision does not apply and thumb his nose at the Repubs. He even snubs court ordered decisions to resume drilling in the gulf. He considers himself above the other two branches of government.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2011, 10:01:42 AM »
Quote from: Lacarnut on June 24, 2011, 06:36:02 AM
Nothing will happen. Obama will state this provision does not apply and thumb his nose at the Repubs. He even snubs court ordered decisions to resume drilling in the gulf. He considers himself above the other two branches of government.

He makes that assumption at his own peril.  There will come a day when he's reminded of the fact that they are co-equal.  It may come from SCOTUS when they weigh in on Obamacare
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2011, 10:10:50 AM »
Quote from: docstew on June 24, 2011, 10:01:42 AM
He makes that assumption at his own peril.  There will come a day when he's reminded of the fact that they are co-equal.  It may come from SCOTUS when they weigh in on Obamacare

I am hopeful that I will see that day along with his ass getting booted out of office in 012.
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Re: Boehner gives Obama Friday deadline on Libya
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 10:50:26 AM »
« Last Edit: June 24, 2011, 10:52:54 AM by Janice »
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