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Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« on: June 13, 2011, 04:52:34 PM »
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somone (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Jun-13-11 03:44 PM
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Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
   
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/06/13/politics/main...

Obama touts jobs plan in North Carolina

DURHAM, N.C. - President Barack Obama promoted job creation in politically important North Carolina Monday, trying to assure Americans he's focused on their No. 1 concern - and his greatest political weakness - as his potential GOP presidential opponents prepared to target his economic policies in their first major debate.

Speaking at an energy-efficient lighting plant in Durham, Obama called for training more engineers as a means to boost long-term economic growth, as he sought simultaneously to reassure businesses about his administration's policies and try to instill some optimism in voters despite dismal recent economic reports...

Obama announced details of a program to train 10,000 new American engineers every year, saying private companies will join the government to promote education in science, technology, engineering and math. They'll offer incentives to students to finish their degrees and help universities pay for their engineering programs.







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That is great news, every year we will have 10k new engineers fighting over 12 jobs.

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3. What a crock of shit
   
Gee, look what he is doing for jobs

Hey, how about the 14 million unemployed and underemployed who just want a decent paying goddam job?

3 years ago we needed a huge jobs program putting this country to work, look what the hell we got

Nothing

yet you will happily vote for him again in 2012.

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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Mon Jun-13-11 04:10 PM
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4. Looks a lot like the plan from a couple years ago during, and shortly after, the last campaign.
   
Edited on Mon Jun-13-11 04:11 PM by Obamanaut
It would save a lot of time/trouble just to republish all the old campaign promises/rhetoric with an add-on "And this time, I mean it."



http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/22/obama-p... /

<snip> President -elect Barack Obama has asked his economic team to draft a plan to save or create 2.5 million jobs by 2011, the Democrat told the nation in his second weekly radio address Saturday morning.

<snip> “I have already directed my economic team to come up with an Economic Recovery Plan that will mean 2.5 million more jobs by January of 2011 a plan big enough to meet the challenges we face that I intend to sign soon after taking office,” he said in the address.
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<snip> Mr. Obama said it would be a two-year, nationwide effort “to jumpstart job creation in America and lay the foundation for a strong and growing economy.”

<snip> He reprised his promises from the campaign trail, saying he would put people to work rebuilding the nation’s roads and bridges and with jobs in the new energy sector as part of a broad plan to stem effects of climate change.


   

It's been more than two years.

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6. why does he bother with this crap?
   
i`m beginning to think he actually believes what he is saying.

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8. He might believe it. He
   
doesn't live in our world.

No one in that thread is happy about this. Yet every one of those goons will happily vote for him again.

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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 05:41:17 PM »
Who says we need 10,000 engineers a year?

What would they build?

Who would build it?

Where would the money come from?

Why would anyone use what they build?
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 05:51:35 PM »
I see he's focused like a laser beam again.

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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2011, 05:54:06 PM »
10K engineers in this country is really a drop in the bucket.  Hell, the university I went to (GT) has an undergraduate enrollment of 13K, and another 6400 grad students.  That's just ONE "major" engineering school, to say nothing of other schools like Purdue, Stanford, the UC system, MIT, CalTech, the various service academies, etc.

Problem is, in this country, 75 percent of the engineering Ph.D.'s are awarded to foreign nationals.  Yeah, that's no big deal.

And I saw part of his "speech".  Part campaign rally, part get off your dead asses and get a job, I'm going golfing.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 06:02:29 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 13, 2011, 05:54:06 PM
10K engineers in this country is really a drop in the bucket.  Hell, the university I went to (GT) has an undergraduate enrollment of 13K, and another 6400 grad students.  That's just ONE "major" engineering school, to say nothing of other schools like Purdue, Stanford, the UC system, MIT, CalTech, the various service academies, etc.

Problem is, in this country, 75 percent of the engineering Ph.D.'s are awarded to foreign nationals.  Yeah, that's no big deal.

And I saw part of his "speech".  Part campaign rally, part get off your dead asses and get a job, I'm going golfing.

I especially loved his "joke" about shovel ready jobs.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 06:04:02 PM »
Quote from: BEG on June 13, 2011, 06:02:29 PM
I especially loved his "joke" about shovel ready jobs.

The only "shovel ready" jobs that come from liberals is the cleanup required for the mess they leave after a rally or protest.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 06:18:13 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on June 13, 2011, 05:51:35 PM
I see he's focused like a laser beam again.

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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 08:36:31 PM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 13, 2011, 05:54:06 PM
10K engineers in this country is really a drop in the bucket.  Hell, the university I went to (GT) has an undergraduate enrollment of 13K, and another 6400 grad students.  That's just ONE "major" engineering school, to say nothing of other schools like Purdue, Stanford, the UC system, MIT, CalTech, the various service academies, etc.

Problem is, in this country, 75 percent of the engineering Ph.D.'s are awarded to foreign nationals.  Yeah, that's no big deal.

And I saw part of his "speech".  Part campaign rally, part get off your dead asses and get a job, I'm going golfing.

The real problem is these engineers are not staying here like they used to do in times past. I fear our country has lost it's edge. Used to be, the best and brightest, the hardest working, came to this country. Better life and all. The uneducated would open their own business and work hard so their kids could get educated and succeed. Now they don't do that. The ones here to  get educated, work a little bit here and then go back to their country of origin. Now we got 30 million uneducated mexicans here on welfare. Not to mention our own folks.

I fear America is doomed. We have lost our work ethic and I blame LBJ and his welfare programs. There is no stigma being on welfare anymore.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 08:47:40 PM »
There are nearly 100,000 new engineering graduates every year in the U.S., and they're in great demand, even in the Oconomy. Bachelor's degree new graduates average starting at around $60K. The democrat base isn't much interested in engineering, because math is hard.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 08:50:24 PM »
10,000 new engineers and 25,000 new lawyers ready to sue them into poverty. I think Obama has things bassackwards again, as usual.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 08:52:32 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on June 13, 2011, 08:50:24 PM
10,000 new engineers and 25,000 new lawyers ready to sue them into poverty. I think Obama has things bassackwards again, as usual.
Aren't the majority of Democrats in Congress and the Senate lawyers?  I'm having a hard time finding one that isn't, at least when compared with the opposition.

No wonder the legislative branch is so ****ed up.  You have to have a JD just to parse the mountains of garbage they push out every year.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2011, 08:56:35 PM »
Quote from: chris_ on June 13, 2011, 08:52:32 PM
Aren't the majority of Democrats in Congress and the Senate lawyers?  I'm having a hard time finding one that isn't, at least when compared with the opposition.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 08:53:33 AM »
IMO, as long as standards in HS continue to be diluted, and less emphasis is placed on Math and Science, there will not be enough HS students produced that will have the educational background nor the study habits required to complete an engineering degree. 

How about setting up an science charter school or 2 in each large population center.  Emphasis on math and science, prepare these kids for Calc 1, 2 and 3 and quantum mechanics.  Make sure they do not have to take a basic algebra course when they enter college so they can take college algebra their first semester and pass with out hitting the tutor center.  I kills me that kids the same age of my son from overseas can run circles around him in the sciences and math and he is in the top 10% of his HS class and takes the hard math classes that the school offers.  We are way behind the educational power curve and falling further and further behind every day.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 08:59:47 AM »
Quote from: Doc Savage on June 14, 2011, 08:53:33 AM
IMO, as long as standards in HS continue to be diluted, and less emphasis is placed on Math and Science, there will not be enough HS students produced that will have the educational background nor the study habits required to complete an engineering degree. 

How about setting up an science charter school or 2 in each large population center.  Emphasis on math and science, prepare these kids for Calc 1, 2 and 3 and quantum mechanics.  Make sure they do not have to take a basic algebra course when they enter college so they can take college algebra their first semester and pass with out hitting the tutor center.  I kills me that kids the same age of my son from overseas can run circles around him in the sciences and math and he is in the top 10% of his HS class and takes the hard math classes that the school offers.  We are way behind the educational power curve and falling further and further behind every day.
How about high school courses that will actually trasfer to regional and national colleges for credit?  I remember my sister taking courses in HS that she was told were transferrable and the school refused to accept them.

Maybe year-round school is an answer, but the NEA would never go for it.  They like having three months of downtime every year.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 09:36:54 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on June 13, 2011, 05:41:17 PM
Who says we need 10,000 engineers a year?

What would they build?

Who would build it?

Where would the money come from?

Why would anyone use what they build?
Maybe they are social engineers? At least that is something Obama understands and thinks that there is a need for.
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2011, 01:03:21 PM »
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Maybe they are social engineers? At least that is something Obama understands and thinks that there is a need for.
  Chilling, but accurate.

I was thinking along the lines of DocSavage.  Our schools have become so dumbed-down, where will these engineers Obama speaks of come from?  Oh, India. 
For that matter, colleges have dumbed down, too. 
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2011, 01:08:59 PM »
But with more engineers we'd have more automation...what happens when they event a better ATM and even more tellers lose their job?

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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2011, 01:53:22 PM »
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graywarrior  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-13-11 04:17 PM
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7. I can't do engineering
 I'm a write (sic) and editor. Any of those jobs available besides the crap on Craigslist?
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I thought she was an artist or a counselor?

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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2011, 02:07:44 PM »
:thatsright:  Who looks for jobs on Craigslist?
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Re: Obama touts plan to train 10,000 new American engineers every year
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graywarrior  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-13-11 04:17 PM
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I'm a write [sic] and editor.
In just a single sentence, DUmmy graywarrior is disqualified as either a writer or an editor.
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