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Offline franksolich

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primitives discuss grass clippings
« on: June 10, 2011, 03:55:46 AM »
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Raven  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 09:35 AM
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Grass clippings as mulch in the garden? Is this a good idea?

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randr  (1000+ posts)        Sun Jun-05-11 11:08 AM
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1. Try a light layer of dried grass clipping

Green grass clippings will eat up nitrogen from the soil as they decompose, robbing your plants of the needed nutrient. They also, when wet and green, encourage slugs and other pests.

Best is to add grass to an active compose pile and allow it to naturally decompose.

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Botany  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 11:53 AM
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2. No!

the best use of grass clippings is to use a mulching mower blade and leave the cuttings on the lawn .... this will return the nitrogen and water in the clippings back to the grass plants

grass clippings tend to clump together and turn nasty in a compost .... it makes the situation anaerobic (no O2) vs aerobic .... same with on a garden.

BTW it is best to set your mower on the highest possible setting too.

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Denninmi  (823 posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 12:05 PM
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3. Sorry, but I disagree.

I've been using my grass clippings for years as mulch. They're an excellent way to keep down weeds around plants and return nutrients to the soil. Yes, you do need be sure to spread them when fresh, because they soon clump and also get full of molds, so you don't want to have to work with them after they start to decompose.

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Botany  (1000+ posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 12:50 PM
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4. over all from an energy and environmental prospective the best use of grass clippings is to let them stay on the turf and the extra time that you would have used to collect and spread the the clippings can be used to hoe the weeds in the beds which also help to cultivate the soil

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Denninmi  (823 posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 08:46 PM
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8. From an environmental standpoint, not mowing at all is the best.

Lawns are a ridiculous waste of energy and $, but most of us are mandated to have at least a nominal lawn, or face the wrath of local governments. If I had my druthers, I'd have no lawn at all, but a nice little pasture where I could have a couple of goats, a sheep, and an emu graze. But, that's not really in the cards here in the 'burbs.

And, if you get into gardening on a large scale, hand control of weeds is simply not realistic. It takes a combination of mulching, herbicides, and cultivation to do the job. Or a staff of gardeners for those capable of paying them, which isn't me.

So, yes, I look forward to EVERY bag of grass clippings, because I always have a place to use it to control some type of weed that is emerging at that point in the season. In return, the worms turn it into incredibly rich soil. I have areas where I've been dumping grass clippings for over 30 years now, along with all of the leaves and yard waste I can get my hands on, and it has made wonderful rich, dark, fluffy loam.

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NRaleighLiberal   (1000+ posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 01:26 PM
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5. Yes, in my view - been doing it for years. 

We really don't give a hoot about our lawn - mostly crabgrass and weeds which are nice and green and look fine when mowed - and we don't put anything on our lawn, so they work great as mulch - we grow lots in pots, and it helps with water retention and slowly feeds the plant as it breaks down.

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trud  (851 posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 07:34 PM
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6. another vote for leaving them in the lawn

My understanding is that they add nutrients.

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NRaleighLiberal   (1000+ posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 07:53 PM
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7. exactly. It's all about if you would rather have the nutrients on the lawn (which we don't), or the garden (which we do!).

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Denninmi  (823 posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 08:48 PM
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9. I fertilize limited areas of my lawn.

Problem spots where a little fertilizer encourages it to grow, otherwise it would be a patch of mud. Mostly areas around/under trees with surface roots or where the soil is very poor.

Which, of course, promotes rapid growth of the grass, which means more mowing, which means more clippings which are high in N to go onto the garden.

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trud  (851 posts)      Mon Jun-06-11 06:41 AM
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10. the bunnies, the birds like the lawn for foraging. It's full of clover, dandelions, violets.

I swear.  Will the primitives ever develop intellectually enough to grow beyond baby-talk?

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Kolesar  (1000+ posts)        Mon Jun-06-11 10:43 AM
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11. I used to mulch with a layer of grass clippings

But now I prefer to leave the areas between the vegetable plants clear and cultivate them with my new "diamond scuffle hoe". The "dust mulch" on the surface of the planting bed serves as an ersatz mulch to prevent groundwater from moving up to the surface and evaporating.

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Curmudgeoness  (1000+ posts)      Mon Jun-06-11 08:15 PM
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12. I use grass clipping as mulch only where I am not actively growing plants and want to keep weeds out. From what I have read (but have no experience with it), green grass decomposing will pull nitrogen away from the plants. Up thread someone said not to use it in a compost pile, but I also use it there---just not 100% grass clippings in there and I get beautiful compost. It just takes a long time for it to get beautiful but I am in no hurry.

I would prefer to just mulch the grass and leave it on the lawn, but I am too lazy to mow often enough and the grass clippings are too thick by the time I mow and just clump all over the lawn. My 30 year old mower is not a "mulching" mower, so I don't know if that would make a difference, but that would be my preferred use of the clippings.

For mulching, I use the leaves from my oak trees (too many huge ones, lots of leaves). I bag them in the fall, leave them overwinter, then mow over them and catch them after they are mulched. They look great and appear to be good for the garden. Then they are worked into the soil at the end of the season.

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Lugnut  (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-08-11 02:15 AM
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13. I don't know.

We use them every year with no apparent adverse effects. They keep the weeds down and hold moisture in the soil. This year I put newspapers down first then clippings on top. All of the tomato plants have flowers on them and the cucumber plants have have tiny cukes on them already. We had an amazing harvest last year.

franksolich, or actually, the guy who cuts the grass here, just lets the grass fall where it may, and it seems to work.
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Re: primitives discuss grass clippings
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 07:36:14 AM »
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newspapers down first then clippings on top

I've read that before, in a gardening newsletter written by some old codger who knows what he's talking about.  Seems to be working for the Lugnut. 

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Re: primitives discuss grass clippings
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2011, 10:37:45 AM »
I've read that before, in a gardening newsletter written by some old codger who knows what he's talking about.  
Before moving to red state hell, where the deer eat every single thing that sprouts, I used that method between rows and around tomato vines. It works great, and by next spring the newspaper is decomposed enough to be easily turned under. 

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Re: primitives discuss grass clippings
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2011, 10:42:11 AM »
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Denninmi  (823 posts)      Sun Jun-05-11 08:46 PM
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8. From an environmental standpoint, not mowing at all is the best.

Lawns are a ridiculous waste of energy and $.....

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Re: primitives discuss grass clippings
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2011, 10:45:18 AM »
How dare they cut their grass!  Mowers are monstrous gas-guzzling polluters that murder poor, innocent little blades of grass.  Any true environmentalist would just let their lawn grow wild.