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Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« on: June 08, 2011, 08:30:23 PM »
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Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or tardiness
   
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i.e. You show up on time Monday and Tuesday but are sick or show up late Wednesday, show up on time Thursday and Friday, but get paid less for the whole week.

This is hourly work.

Does the situation I describe fall under any labor law?

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Ok DUmmy here is how the real world works, you get paid for 40 hours if you actually work 40 hours.
If you have been in the job long enough, you may earn sick days and vacation time, that you may use when you miss work. If you use up all your time or don't have any time accrued yet, you don't get paid for any hours that you were not at work. Some employers are nice enough to let you make up any missed time by staying late or coming in on a normal day off.

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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 08:47:20 PM »
Yo, abalamaDUmma$$.
You're late an hour, you loose an hour.
Don't be late.
Show up at the appointed time, at the appointed hour.
Be where you're supposed to be, when you're supposed to be there.
You have to be there 40, to be paid for 40.
The last two minutes of the msnbc commerial are not that important.
Get your sorry ass to work on time.
Stupid freaking dumbass DUmmies.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 08:49:25 PM »
Hourly work, by definition, is paid based on how many hours you work.  You miss one day, you lose one day of pay.  How stupid can somebody be? :mental:
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 08:51:21 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on June 08, 2011, 08:49:25 PM
Hourly work, by definition, is paid based on how many hours you work.  You miss one day, you lose one day of pay.  How stupid can somebody be? :mental:

I know that is a rhetorical question, but I would think after observing DU for years now, we all would know that stupidity is infinite.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 08:52:17 PM »
Quote from: Celtic Rose on June 08, 2011, 08:49:25 PM
Hourly work, by definition, is paid based on how many hours you work.  You miss one day, you lose one day of pay.  How stupid can somebody be? :mental:
It's obviously a conspiracy by whatever Big Corporation employing this particular DUmmy to keep him subjugated and under the thumb of the Man.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 08:52:59 PM »
Color me shocked, horse with no brain even knows the answer,
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2. No. You can only be paid for hours you are there.
   
If you missed work, you missed pay.

Now, they can't take the money you have already earned...I've heard of some businesses that try to do that. That is illegal.

Maybe Doug's stupid ex wife will copy off her and try to look smart too.  :-)
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2011, 09:01:31 PM »
If the company ever got around giving that DUmba$$ anything..
..it ought to be an invoice.
Stupid lazy DUmmie.
Get your sorry ass to work on time.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 09:03:50 PM »

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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 09:04:24 PM »
Our company got in a little trouble for docking people . If you were late by even 30 seconds, you would be docked a quarter hour.  You had to stay on the clock at least a quarter hour late to make it up.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 09:12:13 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on June 08, 2011, 09:04:24 PM
Our company got in a little trouble for docking people . If you were late by even 30 seconds, you would be docked a quarter hour.  You had to stay on the clock at least a quarter hour late to make it up.

I've worked for several companies that did that.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 09:14:02 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on June 08, 2011, 09:04:24 PM
Our company got in a little trouble for docking people . If you were late by even 30 seconds, you would be docked a quarter hour.  You had to stay on the clock at least a quarter hour late to make it up.
My Dad worked as a mechanic for the county transit bus system back in the late 70's and very early 80's.  He told me that if you were late, period, they would send you home for the day.  He said there were a few times he had the car wound up over a hundred to make it on time.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 09:22:04 PM »
Quote from: Vagabond on June 08, 2011, 09:14:02 PM
My Dad worked as a mechanic for the county transit bus system back in the late 70's and very early 80's.  He told me that if you were late, period, they would send you home for the day.  He said there were a few times he had the car wound up over a hundred to make it on time.

some people I work with would get sent home every day.   I on the other hand have only been late when it was intentional and sort of planned.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2011, 10:07:05 PM »
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show up late
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This is hourly work.
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get paid less


Even Horse with no Brain says this is okay. What an outrage.
AlabamaLibrul should hire an attorney and sue the hell out of them.
Then try to get a union. Then quit.
I think most of the DUmp democrats would support that strategy.

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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2011, 10:58:46 PM »
The stupid is strong.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2011, 11:17:38 PM »
Wouldn't it just be easier if the DUmbass stayed in bed, in his mother's basement smoking pot and eating cheetos and delivered pizza and the employer could just send his check to him....or better yet direct deposit. Don't want the sun hitting that indoor skin.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2011, 02:26:30 AM »
Quote from: Skul on June 08, 2011, 08:47:20 PM
Yo, abalamaDUmma$$.
You're late an hour, you loose an hour.
Don't be late.
Show up at the appointed time, at the appointed hour.
Be where you're supposed to be, when you're supposed to be there.
You have to be there 40, to be paid for 40.
The last two minutes of the msnbc commerial are not that important.
Get your sorry ass to work on time.
Stupid freaking dumbass DUmmies.

Whoa.

One can discern our Nebraska connection, sir.

You said exactly what I was thinking when reading the original post, and said it exactly the way I was planning to.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2011, 03:05:36 AM »
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Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or tardiness
   
i.e. You show up on time Monday and Tuesday but are sick or show up late Wednesday, show up on time Thursday and Friday, but get paid less for the whole week.


Stop getting drunk/stoned the night before, and you won't be sick.

Also, no work, no pay.
Now, isn't that simple.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2011, 08:17:38 AM »
In the DUmmies minds (such as they are) they think they should get paid for 168 hours a week.

Then again, drug test them and watch them freak out.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2011, 08:34:18 AM »
Alabamadumbass didn't like the answers he was getting, so

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13. That's pretty petty considering the wages we're talking...
I'm going to look into this further. It's hardly a grade-A operation.

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Get your sorry ass to work on time.
Stupid freaking dumbass DUmmies.

I like that turn of phrase.... :-)
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2011, 09:12:52 AM »
Quote from: Karin on June 09, 2011, 08:34:18 AM

I like that turn of phrase.... :-)
:lmao: That's my Nebraska connection.  :rotf: :cheersmate:
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2011, 09:25:05 AM »
I wonder if OT was involved. Some union contracts have OT pay after 8 hours in a day. Other have OT pay after 40 hours. Say he worked 8 hrs on Mon. and Tue. 7 hrs. on Wed. 8 hrs on Thur and 9 hrs on Fri. If he got a 40 hr pay, he would view it a 1/2 being taken from him because he didn't get time and a half for the 9th hour on Fri.

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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2011, 09:37:57 AM »
The original post seems to point toward the 40 hour rule.
Another thing to consider is that some companies do not pay sick time for the first eight.
This appears to be the case.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2011, 09:43:37 AM »
Quote from: Tucker on June 09, 2011, 09:25:05 AM
I wonder if OT was involved. Some union contracts have OT pay after 8 hours in a day. Other have OT pay after 40 hours. Say he worked 8 hrs on Mon. and Tue. 7 hrs. on Wed. 8 hrs on Thur and 9 hrs on Fri. If he got a 40 hr pay, he would view it a 1/2 being taken from him because he didn't get time and a half for the 9th hour on Fri.



Overtime rules can vary widely , even within the same company.  Our office workers (non-union), get OT after 8 hours, the truck drivers (also non-union) get OT after 40 hours.  Those of us in the shop, get OT for anything outside of our shift hours.   More than once, I have had more OT than straight time in a week.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2011, 10:16:17 AM »
Quote from: NHSparky on June 09, 2011, 08:17:38 AM
In the DUmmies minds (such as they are) they think they should get paid for 168 hours a week.
Well, when you have to work, it messes up your whole week, which is 168 hours. But of course you are paid for it. I hope the DUmmies are doing the math. An ambitious DUmmy may gross $350 a week. That's  $2.08 an hour, before taxes, which is pretty much what a DUmmy is worth.
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Re: Labor question: Docking pay for the week (incl retroactive) for one sick day or
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2011, 10:46:47 AM »
THE MAN makes it so hard for poor working folk to get ahead.

Imagine...demanding an hour's work for an hour's pay! Who the hell does that corporation think it is!?!?!?!?!
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