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Offline thundley4

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« on: June 07, 2011, 10:26:54 AM »
Is now a fundraising site for Obama .  http://www.whitehouse.gov/


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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2011, 11:34:39 AM »
Ok, now this, IMO, falls within "high crimes and misdemeanors"
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2011, 03:56:57 PM »
This was Bush's about the same time during his first term:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030613130437/http://www.whitehouse.gov/

http://wayback.archive.org/web/20040101000000*/http://whitehouse.gov


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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2011, 04:06:33 PM »
Quote from: Rebel on June 07, 2011, 03:56:57 PM
This was Bush's about the same time during his first term:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030613130437/http://www.whitehouse.gov/

http://wayback.archive.org/web/20040101000000*/http://whitehouse.gov


Obama is a narcissistic dick.

I didn't see anything even remotely resembling a campaign blitz.
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2011, 04:14:41 PM »
Quote from: thundley4 on June 07, 2011, 04:06:33 PM
I didn't see anything even remotely resembling a campaign blitz.

And you won't, because that's the difference between Bush 43, misguided in many respects, but an honorable guy, and the current asswipe in the White Mosque.
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2011, 10:39:57 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on June 07, 2011, 04:14:41 PM
And you won't, because that's the difference between Bush 43, misguided in many respects, but an honorable guy, and the current asswipe in the White Mosque.

An honorable guy who authorized torture.  Not saying Obama is much better(Id argue hes worse) just dont get any misconceptions about Bush. He was a scumbag through and through.

Quote from: thundley4 on June 07, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
Is now a fundraising site for Obama .  http://www.whitehouse.gov/




"Receive updates from president Obama and other white house officials." (Picture of Obama)

How does any of this constitute political campaigning?
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2011, 11:45:04 PM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
An honorable guy who authorized torture.  Not saying Obama is much better(Id argue hes worse) just dont get any misconceptions about Bush. He was a scumbag through and through.

"Receive updates from president Obama and other white house officials." (Picture of Obama)

How does any of this constitute political campaigning?

OMG, he tortured KSM...  Sorry.  Cannot give a damn.
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2011, 11:53:27 PM »
Quote from: WinOne4TheGipper on June 07, 2011, 11:45:04 PM
OMG, he tortured KSM...  Sorry.  Cannot give a damn.

Well since you dont give a shit about breaking international law Im sure you dont care about the constitution.

4th amendment ring a bell? How about illegal wiretaps?
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 04:20:16 AM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 11:53:27 PM
Well since you dont give a shit about breaking international law Im sure you dont care about the constitution.

4th amendment ring a bell? How about illegal wiretaps?

4th Amendment?  for KSM?  You gotta be shitting me.  When are you libs gonna realize that the Constitution only protects citizens?

And your international law BS is just that, BS.  As an illegal enemy combatant, KSM or any other terrorist/insurgent is treated as a spy and we have the right under the Geneva Convention to question them and then summarily execute them.  That's international law.
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 04:32:26 AM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 11:53:27 PM
Well since you dont give a shit about breaking international law Im sure you dont care about the constitution.

4th amendment ring a bell? How about illegal wiretaps?

What the hell does international law have to do with the Constitution? The Constitution trumps international law. I could give a rat's ass what the UN or Greece or China thinks. Almost every president has had some kind of similar wiretapping program. Hell, Clinton and Janet Reno thought posse comitatus didn't apply to them, brought in the tanks and obliterated a bunch of little children. Koresh left the compound to go in to town quite often. There's no rational reason he couldn't have been grabbed during one these trips. Somehow torturing the mastermind of 9/11 pales in comparison.

The dems had the perfect opportunity to get rid of wiretapping (which they STILL have to get a warrant for) when they took control but they didn't. Nor does the 4th amendment apply to terrorists. It certainly doesn't apply to noncitizens who are planning our demise or are captured on the battlefield.

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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2011, 04:44:05 AM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 11:53:27 PM
Well since you dont give a shit about breaking international law Im sure you dont care about the constitution.

4th amendment ring a bell? How about illegal wiretaps?
Illegal wiretaps...link please?
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2011, 07:52:31 AM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 11:53:27 PM
Well since you dont give a shit about breaking international law Im sure you dont care about the constitution.

4th amendment ring a bell? How about illegal wiretaps?

The 4th amendment does not apply to a foreign terrorist captured on foreign soil.  Sorry, newbie.  I don't feel the least bit sorry for a guy that plotted to fly planes loaded with innocent people into buildings loaded with more innocent people.  He should consider himself damned lucky that he's only been waterboarded.
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2011, 11:31:27 AM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
An honorable guy who authorized torture.  Not saying Obama is much better(Id argue hes worse) just dont get any misconceptions about Bush. He was a scumbag through and through.


You're contradicting yourself, n00b, when you admit that he's an honorable guy and yet call him a scumbag.

George W. Bush doesn't need me to defend him, but I'd submit he has more honor in his little finger than you'll EVER find in that dear darling Libland you hang out in.

My fellow posters have already torn you a new asshole with respect to your so-called foray into international law vice the Constitution, so I'll just leave that the way it is.

When you come back after having licked your wounds, let's discuss "torture" a little more, because I don't believe in your flaccid little peabrain that you have a clue what that is.

Waterboarding, in case you're interested, is simply another way for your muzzie terrorist friends to get a bath -- a long-awaited, much-needed bath. When the terrorist ****s drown as a result of waterboarding, then we can talk about torture. Until then, go play in traffic (after your wounds heal, of course -- I wouldn't want you to bleed on the pavement).
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2011, 11:33:41 AM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 11:53:27 PM
Well since you dont give a shit about breaking international law Im sure you dont care about the constitution.

4th amendment ring a bell? How about illegal wiretaps?

Define, "International law."

Oh, and who originally pushed for wiretaps in the first place?  And illegal?  FISA ring a bell?
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2011, 11:35:12 AM »
Quote from: Splashdown on June 08, 2011, 04:44:05 AM
Illegal wiretaps...link please?

You won't get such a link, except for maybe far left, USA hating sites.
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2011, 11:36:25 AM »
Quote from: CG6468 on June 08, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
You won't get such a link, except for maybe far left, USA hating sites.

I'm sure the kid's got some sort of backup for these allegations. Otherwise, he's just trolling. Right?


Right?
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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2011, 11:37:25 AM »
Quote from: Splashdown on June 08, 2011, 11:36:25 AM
I'm sure the kid's got some sort of backup for these allegations. Otherwise, he's just trolling. Right?


Right?

That's been my opinion from his first appearance here.
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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2011, 11:41:20 AM »
Summer school hasn't started yet, so he's hunkering down in mommy's basement waiting for an opportunity to spread more goober dust.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2011, 12:26:09 PM »
Quote from: delilahmused on June 08, 2011, 04:32:26 AM
What the hell does international law have to do with the Constitution? The Constitution trumps international law. I could give a rat's ass what the UN or Greece or China thinks. Almost every president has had some kind of similar wiretapping program. Hell, Clinton and Janet Reno thought posse comitatus didn't apply to them, brought in the tanks and obliterated a bunch of little children. Koresh left the compound to go in to town quite often. There's no rational reason he couldn't have been grabbed during one these trips. Somehow torturing the mastermind of 9/11 pales in comparison.

The dems had the perfect opportunity to get rid of wiretapping (which they STILL have to get a warrant for) when they took control but they didn't. Nor does the 4th amendment apply to terrorists. It certainly doesn't apply to noncitizens who are planning our demise or are captured on the battlefield.

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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2011, 12:27:14 PM »
Quote from: CG6468 on June 08, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
You won't get such a link, except for maybe far left, USA hating sites.

I'd expect links on Clinton's illegal wiretaps to come from the right, personally.
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2011, 12:28:07 PM »
Quote from: JohnGalt on June 08, 2011, 12:27:14 PM
I'd expect links on Clinton's illegal wiretaps to come from the right, personally.

Thanks for making my point.
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2011, 07:21:37 PM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 11:53:27 PM
Well since you dont give a shit about breaking international law


And I'm sure that you can cite, word for word, exactly which international law that was broken.

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Im sure you dont care about the constitution.

Like you ****ing know anything about the United States Constitution.

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4th amendment ring a bell?

Enemy combatant (terrorist), foreign national, not part of standing state army nor marked as militia, no rights under the United States Constitution ring a bell?

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How about illegal wiretaps?

How about them?  Why don't you tell us all about them?

Make sure you provide links to actual evidence and judicial finding, not alternet or huffpo or some other dipshit leftist political porn site.
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Re: whitehouse.gov
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2011, 08:55:53 PM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 07, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
An honorable guy who authorized torture.  Not saying Obama is much better(Id argue hes worse) just dont get any misconceptions about Bush. He was a scumbag through and through.

"Receive updates from president Obama and other white house officials." (Picture of Obama)

How does any of this constitute political campaigning?

So Obama should be tried at the Hague and hanged at dawn, right?
Or does only Bush deserve that fate?

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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2011, 09:21:03 PM »
Quote from: Eupher on June 08, 2011, 11:31:27 AM
You're contradicting yourself, n00b, when you admit that he's an honorable guy and yet call him a scumbag

Lrn2 Sarcasm.

Quote from: CG6468 on June 08, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
You won't get such a link, except for maybe far left, USA hating sites.

Are you people honestly this ignorant of the world around you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2011, 09:28:05 PM »
Quote from: Hella Jeff on June 08, 2011, 09:21:03 PM
Lrn2 Sarcasm.

Are you people honestly this ignorant of the world around you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act

Sorry. Maybe you misunderstood. I'm looking for the illegal part. Says on Wiki that it was passed by the house and senate, and signed into law. By definition, I'd say that's legal.

You said "illegal" wiretapping. Can you back that up?

So, once again, can I have a link, please?
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