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Offline MrsSmith

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The USDA mimics PETA...
« on: June 05, 2011, 10:17:28 AM »
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Dallas Animal Trainer Caught in USDA ‘Legal Circus’
by Bob McCarty


http://biggovernment.com/bmccarty/2011/06/04/dallas-animal-trainer-caught-in-usda-legal-circus/
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On June 5, 2008, the circus at which two elephants were appearing in WaKeeney, Kan., was struck suddenly by high winds associated with a fast-approaching tornado. The winds caused a giant inflatable slide to come loose from its anchors and fly toward the elephants belonging to Terranova. In turn, the spooked elephants ran away from the circus grounds and ended up in nearby neighborhoods. Though the the chain of events made the news, it resulted in no injuries and no damage in the tiny Kansas town halfway between Kansas City and Denver.

While most people would write off such an incident as an unpreventable “act of God,” the USDA did not. The ageny’s inspectors alleges Terranova and others failed to handle the animals in a proper manner and offered elephant rides to the public “despite four days of National Weather Service advance warnings that severe tornadoes were expected in Kansas.” Apparently, USDA officials are ignorant of the fact that tornadoes are a common occurrence in Kansas during the month of June.

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That inspection took place March 10, lasted two hours and involved a USDA inspector viewing Terranova’s traveling tiger act at a Shrine Circus in Michigan and then reviewing his paperwork, equipment and vehicles. When it was over, the animal trainer said he thought the inspector “seemed happy” and would spend about 20 minutes writing up what her violation-free report. But things took a different turn.

“She returned over two hours later, asked to look at our equipment again, and proceeded to write us up for having a performance cage that was too short,” Terranova explained, adding that he was subsequently written for his transport cages — the same type of cage he’s used since 1978 without any citations — being “too small.”

Notably, Terranova told me that he has acquired USDA inspection reports from three other big cat acts — all using the same industry-standard cage — that have been inspected since March 10, and NONE were cited for infractions. When he appealed the cage-related finding in his report, he was told that it would stand and that it was up to each exhibitor to remain in compliance.

“The biggest problem here is that, even if you are right, it costs thousands to fight them, and they keep coming with more B.S.,” Terranova said. “Before you know it, you are into your children’s college funds to try and continue your small business.

“They can do what they want, when they want and with no worries,” Terranova said. “Even if you win, you lose.”


Terranova must be a repuke...obviously is expected to have 20/20 foresight, control the VRWC weather machine, and know about regulations that apply only to his business.   :thatsright:

Having rules to protect abused animals is wonderful.  Having our government send ignorant inspectors out to harass businesses that don't abuse them is against every precept of our constitution.
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Re: The USDA mimics PETA...
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2011, 01:36:39 PM »
Terranova must be a repuke...obviously is expected to have 20/20 foresight, control the VRWC weather machine, and know about regulations that apply only to his business.   :thatsright:

Having rules to protect abused animals is wonderful.  Having our government send ignorant inspectors out to harass businesses that don't abuse them is against every precept of our constitution.

Interesting MrsSmith, so why is it against the law to take photos in some Mid western States of the so called Puppy Mills?

Want to buy a puppy from a breeder, head out and take photos of the business with no permission from the breeder,     off to jail you go.

Why not start investigating the breeding mills and why most animals are shipped way out of State.  you buy a dog said to be a poodle and and the vet finds it is a mongrel, you cannot sue the seller, you have to travel to the state the breeder lives in and prepare to sue them there.   Few do that as the breeder will offer to take the dog back and replace it with another.

So you have bonded with a dog that has been misrepresented and you are going to give the dog back????

This pisses me off, Circus animals are the bread and butter to their owners, well trained and ready to preform.   True some Circus animals are mistreated as are some children that preform to make money for the family.

While the government concentrates on less then 1% of animal care there are thousands of thousands of puppy's living in horrid conditions in States that protect the breeders.

What happens to the puppy's that don't sell from the puppy shops???   Once they get too old they are disposed of in some way, no reason to feed the pups that no one wants to buy.        :bawl: :bawl:

I have a dog in this race, my puppy came with a lot of official papers as to breed and genology. 

No way is she a throughbread as the papers say, she is nothing like her breed standard or even comes close to what her AKCA papers say she is.   The dog is a mutt I paid $900.00 bucks for,  to sue I would have to give her back to the breeder--------over my dead body.

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Re: The USDA mimics PETA...
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2011, 04:52:20 PM »
Interesting MrsSmith, so why is it against the law to take photos in some Mid western States of the so called Puppy Mills?

Want to buy a puppy from a breeder, head out and take photos of the business with no permission from the breeder,     off to jail you go.

Why not start investigating the breeding mills and why most animals are shipped way out of State.  you buy a dog said to be a poodle and and the vet finds it is a mongrel, you cannot sue the seller, you have to travel to the state the breeder lives in and prepare to sue them there.   Few do that as the breeder will offer to take the dog back and replace it with another.

So you have bonded with a dog that has been misrepresented and you are going to give the dog back????

This pisses me off, Circus animals are the bread and butter to their owners, well trained and ready to preform.   True some Circus animals are mistreated as are some children that preform to make money for the family.

While the government concentrates on less then 1% of animal care there are thousands of thousands of puppy's living in horrid conditions in States that protect the breeders.

What happens to the puppy's that don't sell from the puppy shops???   Once they get too old they are disposed of in some way, no reason to feed the pups that no one wants to buy.        :bawl: :bawl:

I have a dog in this race, my puppy came with a lot of official papers as to breed and genology. 

No way is she a throughbread as the papers say, she is nothing like her breed standard or even comes close to what her AKCA papers say she is.   The dog is a mutt I paid $900.00 bucks for,  to sue I would have to give her back to the breeder--------over my dead body.

The USDA and all states have many laws about dog breeders.  There are probably a few "puppy mills" left in business, but there aren't many.  Most breeders are labeled "puppy mills" by those that have no clue what they're talking about. 

When I was a kid, my mother helped shut down several true puppy mills.  In one place, the dogs were so starved that several could not be saved.  We ended up with the rest, Mom spent a lot of time and money getting them back into condition.  Some ended up healthy enough to keep for breeding, and we did.  The others were not, and we spent time socializing them and found them homes.

Another place kept all their dogs in 2' x 2' rabbit cages without the catch trays underneath...and stacked the cages on top of each other so they could get more of them in their garage.  This meant that the waste would fall down, from one cage to another, and right on those other dogs.  That one was reported and shut down.

My mother also ran into many people that did the wrong things out of ignorance, and she endlessly and patiently taught a large number of people the correct way to house and care for breeding dogs, how and when to give vaccinations, how the pens must be constructed and cleaned, how the mother dogs must be housed separately when they were due to whelp, how to care for pups when the mother had no milk, when to take dogs in for c-sections, etc. etc.   

As for shipping out of state, the pups go where the customers are.  There are still a few places that manage to get pups into pet shops that should not be registered and a few pet shops that don't care if a pup meets breed standards, but they are certainly the exception to the rule.  The broker we worked with was very careful to buy only pups that were within breed standards, clean inside and out, and basically without flaw.  Things like a crooked tooth, a hernia, or a testicle that had not descended were enough to cause pups to be rejected and returned to the breeder.  Of those breeders, I do not know of a single one that just got rid of that pup...and not a single one that would sell that pup for breeding, either.  The usual method was to advertise the pup as "pet quality only," and mark the papers that way so that it could not be used to breed registered pups.

Another thing, about the pictures.  Breeders don't like people running around on private property taking photos just as you wouldn't want a complete stranger running around the inside of your house taking photos! However, I know that at one time, most took pictures of their own places and sent them to the broker, who then copied them into booklets and sent those to the pet shops.  That way, buyers could look at the kennel from which their pup came and see that the pens were neat, the dogs were happy, and the regulations were all met.

In contrast, having worked in animal shelters in various places, I have seen how puppies are bred and cared for by those that are ignorant and have no intention of making a profit and therefore no intention of investing in their dogs or their care.  I have seen pups taking away from a mother dog a few days after birth because the owners didn't know or care how hard that was on the mother dog, and didn't care if the pups lived at all.  I've come to work on a freezing winter day and found newborn pups in a box by the door, usually left the night before and left to freeze.  This happened a few times even after we built a heated area for placing unwanted pups.  I've seen tiny pups dying in freezing dog houses, on top of old stinking straw, and had owners tell me that they didn't think they'd be too cold since the mother was OK with it.  The typical back-yard pet having pups is in far worse condition than most of those in breeding kennels.  Many are never cleaned up, few are taken to vets if there are problems whelping, most of the pups will die and those that live will seldom be given vaccinations, have dew claws removed, or even be treated for worms, fleas and ticks before being sold or given away.  At least the vast majority of breeders actually expect to make some money at it, so invest in their dogs, their care, their housing, and their pups.

Finally, if your pup truly does not meet breed standards, I assume you have contacted the AKC with a complaint?  You have made sure your dog is a mutt?  (I hate to break it to you, but vets are trained to heal animals, some have no more clue about breed standards than the average guy.)  And who told you you'd have to return it to sue the breeder??  That makes no sense at all. 
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