Primitive ponders why asking voters for ID is a bad thing.

[Freeper]

LLStarks Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat May-28-11 03:08 AM
Original message
Why should an ID be required for almost everything but voting?
   
I never see people worry about non-permanent addresses or fees to buy a state-issued ID (for driving or otherwise) except when it comes to voting.

Why is this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1188287

Easy answer to that. Voting is the only way to get democrats in office, not asking for IDs allows people to vote multiple times or vote under another person's name.

TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat May-28-11 03:11 AM
Response to Original message
1. Nobody is actively trying to suppress driving rights.
   
Almost nobody is actively trying to suppress your right to buy booze, another reason for a photo ID.

But there ARE people who profit from making it difficult for certain people to vote.

Confusious (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat May-28-11 03:24 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. Driving is a privilege
   
Edited on Sat May-28-11 03:27 AM by Confusious
or so I am told every time I get a speeding ticket. (That really makes no sense to me, since if you have no car, in most cities, you can't work)

Buying booze is a privilege.(A town can declare itself dry, nothing you can really do. You could sue, but I don't think you would win)

Voting is a right.

Voting is more than a right, it is a responsibility. In order to make sure that people are not trying to commit fraud a simple ID is not unreasonable in order to do so. If you think about it, you already need an ID to get a job, apply for welfare, or even cash a check.

Luminous Animal (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat May-28-11 03:31 AM
Response to Original message
4. Because we are not required to show our papers.
   
Believe it or not, there are millions of people in this U.S. of A who cannot afford to buy an ID. And the cost of transportation to get one. And the time off of work. And the threat of losing their job to take that time off of work.


But ultimately, we, as a nation, have strove to reject, "Show me your papers."

Then how did they get a job without that ID in the first place?

Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Sat May-28-11 03:49 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. "Voter fraud" is a non-existent "problem".
   
Made up by scumbags who are really trying to suppress the vote.

Election fraud is quite another story.
   

 

[docstew]

They can ponder all day about why it's a bad thing, but the SCOTUS says it's a reasonable restriction on voting and is legal.  Stick that in your bong and smoke it DUmmies.

[compaqxp]

I don't get why it seems like they suggest you'd need to buy a new ID card to simply vote. Up here any government issued photo ID works at the polls and if you don't have any you can take your birth certificate and something that proves where you live.

Every person should have some form of valid ID that could be used.

[FlippyDoo]

You conservatives are some heartless bastards. And you, compaqxp, aren't you supposed to be a liberal of some sort? I'm ashamed of you.

Your constantly trying to disenfranchise people. Do you really want to know why requiring IDs is wrong? Well, I'll tell you in five words: dead people and illegal aliens.

If you require an ID how is a dead person supposed to vote? He can't run out of the cemetery and get one. He might already have a driver's license, but he probably doesn't look anything like the photo any longer so everyone would think it was fake. As for him showing proof of where he lives, how is he supposed to do that? When you speak of where someone lives you are generally talking about a street number or apartment number. Not a grave plot number. Think of how embarrassing it would be to the dead person to be forced to let everyone know that he lives in a graveyard. Your simply cruel.

And with illegal aliens. If they were to try to get a picture ID they would most probably be forced to admit that they were here illegally and may be forced to leave. Then how could they vote!?!?!?!?!

You people really amaze me at you lack of concern for dead people and illegal aliens. It's almost like you don't think they have the right to vote!!!

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How did I do? There's a chance I may be sent on an undercover assignment so I've been trying to practice my schtick. Was I brainless enough? Did you notice how I worked in "your" instead of "you're"?

[Rebel]

Voting in a federal election is NOT a right.

[GOBUCKS]

I am solidly in favor of the strictest ID requirement possible for voting. There is a very slim outside chance it could some day affect a city council race, or a dogcatcher election. Otherwise, there is no possibility whatever that having or not having a photo ID requirement will affect an election. There are just too many votes involved for it to happen. Mayor Daley manufactured tens of thousands of votes purely out of thin air, not by having people show up fraudently at the polls. That is the only kind of effective fraud. No, I favor the ID requirement solely because it drives democrat DUmbasses up the wall in a fury.

[Ballygrl]

How did I do? There's a chance I may be sent on an undercover assignment so I've been trying to practice my schtick. Was I brainless enough? Did you notice how I worked in "your" instead of "you're"?

Very good!

[delilahmused]

The poorest of the poor are on welfare. Welfare checks like social security are now automatically deposited. This is done for the safety of the recipients. In order to have checks automatically deposited one must have a bank account. In order to get a bank account one must have a photo ID. The working poor, even if they don't have a bank account and cash their paychecks at Walmart or some other place, have to show photo ID. I don't see how requiring ID to vote is a hardship since these people already have to show ID for other things. If they can't take that one small responsibility then perhaps they shouldn't be voting anyway.

Cindie

[Freeper]

The poorest of the poor are on welfare. Welfare checks like social security are now automatically deposited. This is done for the safety of the recipients. In order to have checks automatically deposited one must have a bank account. In order to get a bank account one must have a photo ID. The working poor, even if they don't have a bank account and cash their paychecks at Walmart or some other place, have to show photo ID. I don't see how requiring ID to vote is a hardship since these people already have to show ID for other things. If they can't take that one small responsibility then perhaps they shouldn't be voting anyway.

Cindie

Well geez, next thing you will expect people to either drive themselves to the polls or find a friend to get a ride with.
I bet you are cruel enough to want them to dress themselves before they go vote too.

 

[Mr Mannn]

The poorest of the poor are on welfare. Welfare checks like social security are now automatically deposited. This is done for the safety of the recipients. In order to have checks automatically deposited one must have a bank account. In order to get a bank account one must have a photo ID. The working poor, even if they don't have a bank account and cash their paychecks at Walmart or some other place, have to show photo ID. I don't see how requiring ID to vote is a hardship since these people already have to show ID for other things. If they can't take that one small responsibility then perhaps they shouldn't be voting anyway.

Cindie

H5.
If my mole said that on DU, its a pizza for sure.

[BEG]

You conservatives are some heartless bastards. And you, compaqxp, aren't you supposed to be a liberal of some sort? I'm ashamed of you.

Your constantly trying to disenfranchise people. Do you really want to know why requiring IDs is wrong? Well, I'll tell you in five words: dead people and illegal aliens.

If you require an ID how is a dead person supposed to vote? He can't run out of the cemetery and get one. He might already have a driver's license, but he probably doesn't look anything like the photo any longer so everyone would think it was fake. As for him showing proof of where he lives, how is he supposed to do that? When you speak of where someone lives you are generally talking about a street number or apartment number. Not a grave plot number. Think of how embarrassing it would be to the dead person to be forced to let everyone know that he lives in a graveyard. Your simply cruel.

And with illegal aliens. If they were to try to get a picture ID they would most probably be forced to admit that they were here illegally and may be forced to leave. Then how could they vote!?!?!?!?!

You people really amaze me at you lack of concern for dead people and illegal aliens. It's almost like you don't think they have the right to vote!!!

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How did I do? There's a chance I may be sent on an undercover assignment so I've been trying to practice my schtick. Was I brainless enough? Did you notice how I worked in "your" instead of "you're"?

H5