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Offline franksolich

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okay, tell me again about term limits
« on: May 26, 2011, 05:50:22 PM »
I know there's some here who aren't especially fond of term limits for elected officials, but I've been fond of them ever since someone first devised the idea.

Nebraska has had term limits since, well, the turn of the century.

There are no state politicians in Nebraska who date before 2002, 2004.

For the fifth year in a row, the state legislature shut up shop today and everyone went home early, in this case two weeks early, because all their work was done.

The state in January had been confronted with a $100 million shortfall (I know, I know; go ahead and laugh, but remember, we're a small state), which was resolved by this legislative session.....and state taxes slightly lowered.  Fees were increased, but state fees are pretty much for optional things, not mandatory things.

It was bad news for the Dems this year in Nebraska, which has three congressional seats.  The second district (Omaha), which has an (R) congressman, had voted for the Big Zero in 2008, giving him one of our five electoral votes and giving us a black eye.

The second district has always been light pink, the first district (Lincoln), a slightly darker light pink, and the third district (essentially the western three-quarters of the state) a deep deep red.

The Dems couldn't do anything about the Lincoln (first) district or the vast third district, but had hoped to make the Omaha (second) district more friendly for Dem candidates.

Ooops, didn't happen.

A deep red area of the Omaha district was moved into the Lincoln district, making it pink, period (and not just light pink), and a deeper red area of the Lincoln district was moved into the Omaha district, making it pink, period (and not just light pink).

No gerrymandering.  Geographically-logical districts.
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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 08:28:15 AM »
I'm all for term limits. They shouldn't expect a congressional seat to be a lifelong job.
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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 08:41:55 AM »
I'm all for term limits. They shouldn't expect a congressional seat to be a lifelong job.

It was never intended to be a lifelong job. They were supposed to serve one or two terms and then go back home.
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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 08:45:31 AM »
The proven problem with Congressional term limits is the fact that if they are enacted state by state instead of nationwide (I.e. via Constitutional amendment), the states that adopt them end up being shut out of all the committee seats and leadership positions by the states which don't - which will mainly be the states whose Representatives and Senators are currently in those very positions.  I'd love to see an Amendment that limited Congessional terms, but that is about as likely to happen as William Rivers Pitt learning to express himself succinctly in writing. 
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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 09:23:26 PM »
It was never intended to be a lifelong job. They were supposed to serve one or two terms and then go back home.

Well back in the old days just traveling to back and forth to the capitol took a lot of time and that was time away from whatever business the representative or senator  had going on, be it personal or professional. So it was pretty much a term limited job.
Nowadays it is different.
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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 11:58:33 AM »
ive heard many say their limits should be the same as the prez. myself i think that's a bit short. and it discourges potentially good politicans from running.

I'd say at age 65 or 67 give em the boot. we gotta keep these old brain dead fu**ers like Reid from hanging around a life time. they have got to go !!! my opinion of course

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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 12:43:10 PM »
ive heard many say their limits should be the same as the prez. myself i think that's a bit short. and it discourges potentially good politicans from running.

I'd say at age 65 or 67 give em the boot. we gotta keep these old brain dead fu**ers like Reid from hanging around a life time. they have got to go !!! my opinion of course

I disagree. Four years is plenty. When I say this, people state, "It takes them that long to learn the system!"

To which I respond, "Thank you for making my point. There shouldn't BE a damned system!!"  :fuelfire:
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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 01:02:54 PM »
I disagree. Four years is plenty. When I say this, people state, "It takes them that long to learn the system!"

To which I respond, "Thank you for making my point. There shouldn't BE a damned system!!"  :fuelfire:

I understand your anger. but not sure i understand " There shouldn't BE a damned system"

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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 01:08:43 PM »
ive heard many say their limits should be the same as the prez. myself i think that's a bit short. and it discourges potentially good politicans from running.

I'd say at age 65 or 67 give em the boot. we gotta keep these old brain dead fu**ers like Reid from hanging around a life time. they have got to go !!! my opinion of course

Expand the presidency to three terms and limit the senate to two tems and house to six.  Everyone gets 12 years, if they're worth it, and we don't have to check the pulse of some 90 year old senator all the time.
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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 01:16:30 PM »
8 years for President is long enough.  Can you imagine 12 years under someone like Obama?

I also think that former Presidents should only get 8 years of SS protection after they leave office.
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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 01:27:41 PM »
8 years for President is long enough.  Can you imagine 12 years under someone like Obama?

I also think that former Presidents should only get 8 years of SS protection after they leave office.

ya beat me to it. who can take 12 years of an idiot in the WH ???

also we can fix medicare by putting them on it. in less than a year its fixed

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Re: okay, tell me again about term limits
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 01:52:25 PM »
I understand your anger. but not sure i understand " There shouldn't BE a damned system"

The "system" is what corrupts the government. It encourages pols to get into the fixes, bribes, etc.
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