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Re: Casey Anthony Murder Trial Underway
« Reply #325 on: July 05, 2011, 04:16:15 PM »
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4. Why didn't Dr. G open the skull? I'm not a ME, but I thought the ME's job was to check everything which I would think would include a complete exam inside the skull. I realize that the anthropologist said that it wouldn't be done in an anthropological exam, but the ME wouldn't really be doing an anthropological exam.

The skull didn't need to be cut open because it wasn't attached to anything.  The ME could clearly see everything she needed to see by looking through the hole at the bottom.  Why cut it open?  A cut would damage it more than necessary.

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« Reply #326 on: July 05, 2011, 04:20:54 PM »
The skull didn't need to be cut open because it wasn't attached to anything.  The ME could clearly see everything she needed to see by looking through the hole at the bottom.  Why cut it open?  A cut would damage it more than necessary.

Yep that's the way they explained it during the rebuttle. Cutting the skull of a child open destroys the skull because the bone hasn't grown together fully yet.

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« Reply #327 on: July 05, 2011, 04:22:06 PM »
I'm just glad the damn case is over.  I got tired of it being headline news over a week ago.
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« Reply #328 on: July 05, 2011, 04:23:52 PM »
I'm upset Caylee will never get justice.
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« Reply #329 on: July 05, 2011, 04:25:39 PM »
I'm upset Caylee will never get justice.

Yes she will.  The good Lord knows who killed her.  He will provide the justice in His own way.
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« Reply #330 on: July 05, 2011, 04:28:23 PM »
I think Fox gave a rundown on 6 of the jurors, this is what I remember them saying, 2 only went to school til 11th grade, 1 had a DUI, 1 was charged with assaulting a Parent, and 2 other things about 2 of the jurors, WTF? is that the best they can get?
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Re: Casey Anthony Murder Trial Underway
« Reply #331 on: July 05, 2011, 04:32:52 PM »
The bitch was found guilty of lying to police, what did she lie about? a murder she was responsible for yet the jury found her not guilty.

Hi-****ing-five! This is just deplorable. I'llo say it again...DEPLORABLE! I just got home from work about 20 minutes ago. I was in a good mood until 1:15 at work, and then it was shot to shit. Replaced by sorrow, and seathing anger. I have no idea how the jury did what they did. My pappy is watching TV right now, so I can't see if any jurors are being interviewed or not, but I'll be watching Grace tonight to get everything I missed. Anyone have any HLN stream links or anything? This burns the pit of my stomach. For those of you thinking that George did this, or one of the other family members did this, look at what Casey was found GUILTY of, look at what BG posted in that quote, and tell me how that makes one IOTA of sense.

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Re: Casey Anthony Murder Trial Underway
« Reply #332 on: July 05, 2011, 04:33:59 PM »
I think Fox gave a rundown on 6 of the jurors, this is what I remember them saying, 2 only went to school til 11th grade, 1 had a DUI, 1 was charged with assaulting a Parent, and 2 other things about 2 of the jurors, WTF? is that the best they can get?

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« Reply #333 on: July 05, 2011, 04:38:06 PM »
It's very hard, but I made a promise to myself years ago, after sitting on a big civil case jury, to never second guess the verdict of any jury.  For one thing, I remember we kept getting booted out of the room while the lawyers argued.  Who knows what scraps of info we were not privy to that everyone else who cared to sit in the courtroom heard?  Second, the jury MUST abide by the law and put the law above its own collective wants, needs, etc.

Do I personally think the mother is guilty?  As sin.  Probably major involvement by the parents as well.  But, it's just my opinion.  Going by the law, the prosecutors did not prove their case, at least not in the eyes of the jury.  I would not want to sit on a case where an innocent person, or a person guilty of less than coldblooded murder, could be sent to death row if I had only circumstantial evidence to rely on. 

It bears repeating that the accused does NOT have to prove their innocence.  Quite to the contrary.  The burden is on the prosecution.

There are three, or four, entities, who know the truth.  The poor baby, her mother and God.  If Casey is really innocent, the fourth entity to know the truth is the actual murderer.  Whoever killed precious Caylee will have their day in a higher court, and then I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.


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« Reply #334 on: July 05, 2011, 04:43:57 PM »
 

It bears repeating that the accused does NOT have to prove their innocence.  Quite to the contrary.  The burden is on the prosecution.


That's the way it's supposed to work, but far too often, it doesn't.

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« Reply #335 on: July 05, 2011, 04:45:22 PM »
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Second, the jury MUST abide by the law

NO

THEY

DON'T.

Ever hear of jury nullification?
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« Reply #336 on: July 05, 2011, 04:49:43 PM »
It's very hard, but I made a promise to myself years ago, after sitting on a big civil case jury, to never second guess the verdict of any jury.  For one thing, I remember we kept getting booted out of the room while the lawyers argued.  Who knows what scraps of info we were not privy to that everyone else who cared to sit in the courtroom heard?  Second, the jury MUST abide by the law and put the law above its own collective wants, needs, etc.

Do I personally think the mother is guilty?  As sin.  Probably major involvement by the parents as well.  But, it's just my opinion.  Going by the law, the prosecutors did not prove their case, at least not in the eyes of the jury.  I would not want to sit on a case where an innocent person, or a person guilty of less than coldblooded murder, could be sent to death row if I had only circumstantial evidence to rely on. 

It bears repeating that the accused does NOT have to prove their innocence.  Quite to the contrary.  The burden is on the prosecution.

There are three, or four, entities, who know the truth.  The poor baby, her mother and God.  If Casey is really innocent, the fourth entity to know the truth is the actual murderer.  Whoever killed precious Caylee will have their day in a higher court, and then I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.


Meanwhile, back on Earth, we do still have the best justice system in the world, imperfect and humanly flawed as it may be, and often is.  THIS, I firmly believe.

Casey still should have received aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter.  I can see not receiving the death penalty.  I didn't think she would get it after a couple of weeks into the trial. 

I want to know what the jurors were thinking.  You have a child "missing" for 31 days and the mother doesn't report it to anyone? 

And I agree with everyone else.  How can you be found guilty on lying the police ONLY and nothing else?  You obviously LIED about something.  So at least one of those other charges should have stuck too.  Just my opinion.  Too bad I was too invested into this case to even be considered a juror if I lived in Florida.
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« Reply #337 on: July 05, 2011, 04:51:49 PM »
Yep that's the way they explained it during the rebuttle. Cutting the skull of a child open destroys the skull because the bone hasn't grown together fully yet.

They didn't say that it destroyed the skull if I remember correctly. They said it could possibly cause cracking in the skull because the bones in a child's head hasn't completely fused together. In an open and shut case I would agree; however, this was far from an open and shut case. I would assume that many things done in an autopsy does some sort of damage to the body. I'm pretty sure in an autopsy with a corpse (with flesh) that the sternum is cut to gain access to the chest cavity. This would cause damage; yet from my understanding, this is done in an autopsy.

I don't know, but I would have to assume that the hole in the skull that the spinal column passes through is very small. Especially so in a child. While I'm sure that looking through this in an anthropological exam is perfectly fine I would think that in an actual autopsy where every little clue is important it would be better to have more access to the interior of the skull.
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« Reply #338 on: July 05, 2011, 04:52:59 PM »
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« Reply #339 on: July 05, 2011, 04:55:26 PM »
It's very hard, ...
...Meanwhile, back on Earth, we do still have the best justice system in the world, imperfect and humanly flawed as it may be, and often is.  THIS, I firmly believe.

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I don't know why the jury decided as they did.  Hard not to second-guess them right now.


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« Reply #340 on: July 05, 2011, 05:01:54 PM »
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« Reply #341 on: July 05, 2011, 05:02:47 PM »
I am listening  to kfi640 online. the only juror who spoke was a alternate. They did not know that Casey was out parting all night all the time. They thought the father was hiding something. They did not think the prosecution showed a motive for the killing.


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« Reply #342 on: July 05, 2011, 05:06:12 PM »
I am listening  to kfi640 online. the only juror who spoke was a alternate. They did not know that Casey was out parting all night all the time. They thought the father was hiding something. They did not think the prosecution showed a motive for the killing.

The jury rarely hears the full story.
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Re: Casey Anthony Murder Trial Underway
« Reply #343 on: July 05, 2011, 05:08:20 PM »
A solemn high 5.

I don't know why the jury decided as they did.  Hard not to second-guess them right now.


Yeah, I wasn't into this case, and not because I didn't feel total compassion for the little girl Caylee.  Simply because the last time I was totally engrossed and invested in a case was the OJ trial and I remember being so pissed off and weeping angrily for days afterwards.  Then, not quite ten years later I sat on a three week civil case; I am sure there are relatives out there today cursing all of us for not rendering the "correct" verdict.  But, we swore an oath to hear the evidence impartially and to render our finding accordingly.
Do juries abuse this?  Oh, of course, but if we cannot rely upon our jury system, on what CAN we rely?  Oldfashioned hangings?  Running people out of town on a rail?
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Not saying Casey is innocent, but her punishment, whether or not she is guilty, is only just beginning, as did OJ's.  And it may continue for eternity.
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Re: Casey Anthony Murder Trial Underway
« Reply #344 on: July 05, 2011, 05:09:16 PM »
It's very hard, but I made a promise to myself years ago, after sitting on a big civil case jury, to never second guess the verdict of any jury.  For one thing, I remember we kept getting booted out of the room while the lawyers argued.  Who knows what scraps of info we were not privy to that everyone else who cared to sit in the courtroom heard?  Second, the jury MUST abide by the law and put the law above its own collective wants, needs, etc.

Do I personally think the mother is guilty?  As sin.  Probably major involvement by the parents as well.  But, it's just my opinion.  Going by the law, the prosecutors did not prove their case, at least not in the eyes of the jury.  I would not want to sit on a case where an innocent person, or a person guilty of less than coldblooded murder, could be sent to death row if I had only circumstantial evidence to rely on.  

It bears repeating that the accused does NOT have to prove their innocence.  Quite to the contrary.  The burden is on the prosecution.

There are three, or four, entities, who know the truth.  The poor baby, her mother and God.  If Casey is really innocent, the fourth entity to know the truth is the actual murderer.  Whoever killed precious Caylee will have their day in a higher court, and then I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.


Meanwhile, back on Earth, we do still have the best justice system in the world, imperfect and humanly flawed as it may be, and often is.  THIS, I firmly believe.

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« Reply #345 on: July 05, 2011, 05:09:28 PM »
Casey still should have received aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter.  I can see not receiving the death penalty.  I didn't think she would get it after a couple of weeks into the trial. 

I want to know what the jurors were thinking.  You have a child "missing" for 31 days and the mother doesn't report it to anyone? 

And I agree with everyone else.  How can you be found guilty on lying the police ONLY and nothing else?  You obviously LIED about something.  So at least one of those other charges should have stuck too.  Just my opinion.  Too bad I was too invested into this case to even be considered a juror if I lived in Florida.

Just out of curiosity have you ever been on a criminal trial jury?
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Re: Casey Anthony Murder Trial Underway
« Reply #346 on: July 05, 2011, 05:11:58 PM »
The jury rarely hears the full story.

Sigh.  Which is why I don't judge their verdicts.  Like I mentioned upthread, on the case I sat on, we jurors were constantly being escorted from the room, sometimes for hours. :(
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« Reply #347 on: July 05, 2011, 05:12:24 PM »
Just out of curiosity have you ever been on a criminal trial jury?

No, never been on a jury at all.

Are you referring to my opinion on the death penalty or just my all around strong opinions about the case?
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« Reply #348 on: July 05, 2011, 05:17:33 PM »
Just now got word that Prosecutor Ashton has prosecuted his last case. He is retiring.

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« Reply #349 on: July 05, 2011, 05:19:39 PM »
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