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Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« on: May 23, 2011, 08:40:47 AM »

Pawlenty 2006: "Era of Small Government is Over"

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In 2006 Mr. Pawlenty told the Minnesota Climate Change Advisory Group. "It looks like we should have listened to President Carter, he called us to action, and we should have listened. . . . Climate change is real. Human behavior is partly and may be a lot responsible. Those who don't think so are simply not right. We should not spend time on voices that say it's not real."

Heres another quote from Timmy circa 2006: We all, I think, can chart a path toward universal coverage," he said in a luncheon speech to a health reform conference in Minneapolis. "We're going to have to move in stages. ... We should start with covering all kids." - WSJ

Cato lists plenty of Pawlentie's big-government spending track record. He was a big runner-up for VP under McCain.

Some of the things listed at the Cato Institute that Tim Pawlenty stood by in Minnesota -

    * Supports Massachusetts-style health care reform, including a “health care exchange” and an individual mandate;
        * Has called for banning all prescription drug advertizing, and seeks government imposed price controls for drugs offered through Medicare;
        * Proposed a $4000 per child preschool program for low-income children;
        * Pushed a statewide smoking ban smoking ban in workplaces, restaurants and bars;
        * Increased the state’s minimum wage;
        * Imposed some of the most aggressive and expensive renewable energy mandates in the country;
        * Was an ardent supporter of the farm bill;
        * Received only a “C” ranking on Cato’s 2006 Governor’s Report Card, finishing below such Democrats as Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack and tied with Democratic Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell.

How about the 2007 CPAC speech that he gave? How about points from this writeup from liberal Continetti in the Weekly Standard? In the 2007 speech he argued for -

    * Increased government subsidies for alternative energy;
        * More health insurance coverage;
        * For using government to cater to the needs of down-scale voters.

Currently according to Michelle Malkin and Minnesota Public Radio:

State officials say Minnesota is working on a pilot program to test the idea of charging drivers for each mile they drive. Other states around the country are considering a vehicle mileage tax, as revenues from the gas tax are expected to decline.

St. Paul, Minn. — The cost of each gallon of gas includes 18.4 cents to fund federal highway programs, and another 25.5 cents for roads in Minnesota.

But as cars and trucks get better mileage, the gas tax isn’t keeping pace with the need for roads and road work. So another option is gaining traction in Minnesota — a high-tech mileage-based user fee.

“We realize that in the future, cars aren’t going to be powered by fuel, probably,” said Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who signed into law $5 million for the current biennium to study the mileage tax.

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Oh, and btw ... He refuses to talk about opponent's record thereby ensuring Zippy gets yet another free ride during the campaign process regarding his record.

Of course Pawlenty has plenty of time to do a little dance and back track from many of his liberal stances in the coming months. So we shall see what the State has to offer, that brought us enough re-counts of found and shipped in votes to ensure that we now have a Sen Al Franken.
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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 08:53:29 AM »
Conservative talking heads seem so keen on him, but like Daniels, he is totally uninspiring and downright boring as a public speaker.

On climate change, I don't deny that human activity is at least a factor in it (Probably a significantly-lesser factor than solar fluctuation), but unbreaking that egg with policies that simply stabilize emissions (Which looking worldwide is the most you can say about even the radical plans) is futile.  It's like steering the Nimitz with a canoe paddle in two ways:  One, you can't see around it to tell where you're going, and two, whatever you do is going to take a very long time to have any effect. 

If the climate change crowd is right, it's 70-100 years too late to affect it with simply capping emissions.  The only two courses of action that would make any sense are consequence management, or depopulation/deindustrialization.  The first is the only acceptable one, but if we went down the second, I wnt to go on record as volunteering all the DUmmies for the depopulation part. 
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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 10:33:58 AM »


I look at man made climate change much the same as I do a religion.

30-40 years ago it was global cooling. Then it was global warming. Then 'climate change'. And I dont recall any activity that has not been blamed on this 'man made' event. Everything from baldness to the common cold to ... you name it. The list is endless. I'd still like to know how we affected the last three ice ages, considering we werent even around yet, let alone our suv's. This planet is a living, breathing 'organism', that goes through cycles. Just like our sun. It was here long before we arrived, and will be here long after we are gone. Even if we nuke ourselves into extinction. The planet will heal, and life will begin again.  Every year this planet 'burps' up more oil (from the ocean floor) than we ever spilled or burned in our entire history. One volcanic eruption spews more radiation into the atmosphere than all the detonations humans have done combined. Yet, the earth heals herself. This is an incredibly resilient planet we live on, despite our 'abuses'. Sometimes i think man would like to think he is equal with God. Or 'a' God. I think we have an example now in the White House. But ... its just not so. No matter how hard we want to believe it.

It takes far more 'faith' to believe 'the evidence' than I can muster. But what a wonderful vehicle to raise government funding. That all elusive animal which haunts politicians of all liberal stripes for all eternity. What a wonderful hoax. By far, the greatest one of the 20 century. Maybe the 21st too ... we shall see.

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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 11:06:55 AM »
I look at it somewhat differently; while I agree that the science is so primitive and agenda-driven as to have no predictive value about the possible end state, other biologies such as the advent of flowering plants have caused global change in the past, and so I accept the likelihood of some level of human impact on a constantly-changing climate.  However, since I have no confidence that our so-called climatological science can effectively predict the direction or degree of the delta, and given the huge inertia of the climate system once it starts changing, it is essentially futile to freeze human activity in an attempt to restore the system to an equilibrium that has never truly existed.

The gobal temperature has been bizarrely stable by geological time standards over the past 10-11,000 years.  One can argue that since this time frame coincides with the development of agriculture, the stability is actually a byproduct of civilization and the broad-scale carbon dioxide emissions that even primitive civilizations produce.  I don't personally buy that, but in geological time, the current interim of stability is a freakish aberration, and has to end at some point.  Our understanding of what started it or what will end it naturally is so infinitesimal that any particular course of action designed to forestall the end is just as likely to hasten it.

That 10,000 year stability, by the way, is the reason for the rise of civilization, not as the DUmmies were supposing changes in brain anatomy.  The brain hasn't changed that much over most of 100,000 years, but until we had a stable climate so we could have predictable agriculture and sedentary industries, it mainly just put us at the top of the food chain as very efficient nomads and hunters.     
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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 03:24:08 PM »
Just heard a small segment of Limbaughs show where Pawlenty refuted the news story that quoted him as saying the "Era of Small Government is Over". It seems the paper misquoted him and retracted the statement the next day.

Aside from that he seemed to refuting everything he is on record as standing for before.

Interesting.
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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 03:27:04 PM »
Just heard a small segment of Limbaughs show where Pawlenty refuted the news story that quoted him as saying the "Era of Small Government is Over". It seems the paper misquoted him and retracted the statement the next day.

Aside from that he seemed to refuting everything he is on record as standing for before.

Interesting.

Heard part of that.  At least he didn't commit ritual self-immolation, like Gingrich...yet, anyway.
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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 03:34:15 PM »
Heard part of that.  At least he didn't commit ritual self-immolation, like Gingrich...yet, anyway.

Well, it just might be seppuku and he's gotta send out his sword for sharpening first.  :-)

In the GOP debate in Greeneville, SC, IIRC, I heard him say he screwed up vis a vis the health care abortion debacle legislation. He basically threw his hands in the air and said, "I messed up."

Dunno if I believe that, but that's what the man said.
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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 03:49:24 PM »
Gee... Another Lib-lite.  It's McCain part II.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 08:23:02 PM »
Gee... Another Lib-lite.  It's McCain part II.
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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2011, 06:33:40 AM »
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A day after telling Iowans their beloved ethanol subsidies will have to go, Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty used a stop in senior-heavy Florida to call for reining in Social Security and Medicare benefits for future retirees...

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Re: Tim Pawlenty throws his hat into the ring
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2011, 06:49:12 AM »
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Pawlenty is one of several Republicans hoping to emerge as the leading alternative to GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney.

I don't know who the author of the article is, but these ****tards keep banging this drum.  :banghead:

That said, Pawlenty will have to keep up his own mantra - "preserve these important programs" because Timmy's opponents will vilify him, twist, and spin his message. On this point, Krauthammer was spot on yesterday -- the GOP is going to have to attack, attack, attack and sell the idea to curb the entitlements (including my own, which I will not see) because the Dems are going to paint the GOP as villains.
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2011, 06:50:48 AM »
I don't know who the author of the article is, but these ****tards keep banging this drum.  :banghead:

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