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Fender Skirts etc.
« on: May 13, 2011, 03:42:20 PM »
FENDER SKIRTS

I know some of you will not understand this message, but I bet you know someone who might.
I came across this phrase yesterday.  'FENDER  SKIRTS.'

A  term I haven't heard in a long time, and thinking about 'fender skirts' started me thinking about other words that quietly disappear from our language with hardly a notice like 'curb  feelers.'

And 'steering knobs.' (AKA) 'suicide knob,' 'neckers knobs.'

Since I'd been thinking of cars, my mind naturally went that direction first.

Any kids will probably have to find some older person over 50 to explain some of these terms to you.

Remember 'Continental  kits?'  They  were rear bumper extenders and spare tire covers that were supposed to make any car as cool as a Lincoln Continental.

When did we quit calling them 'emergency brakes?'  At some point 'parking brake' became the proper term.  But I miss the hint of drama that went with 'emergency brake.'

I'm  sad, too, that almost all the old folks are gone who would call the accelerator the 'foot feed.'  Many today do not even know what a clutch is or that the dimmer switch used to be on the floor.

Didn't you ever wait at the street for your daddy to come home, so you could ride the 'running  board' up to the house?

Here's a phrase I heard all the time in my youth but never anymore - 'store-bought.'  Of course, just about everything is store-bought these days.  But once it was bragging material to have a store-bought dress or a store-bought bag of candy.

'Coast to coast' is a phrase that once held all sorts of excitement and now means almost nothing. Now we take the term 'world wide' for granted.  This floors me.
 
On a smaller scale, 'wall-to-wall' was once a magical term in our homes.  In the '50s, everyone covered his or her hardwood floors with, wow, wall-to-wall carpeting!  Today, everyone replaces their wall-to-wall carpeting with hardwood floors.  Go figure.

When was the last time you heard the quaint  phrase 'in a family way ?'  It's hard to imagine that the word 'pregnant' was once considered a little too graphic, a little too clinical for use in polite company, so we had all that talk about stork visits and 'being in a family way' or simply  'expecting.'

Apparently 'brassiere' is a word no longer in usage.  I said it the other day and my daughter cracked up.  I guess it's just 'bra' now.  'Unmentionables' probably wouldn't be understood at all.

I always loved going to the 'picture show,' but I considered 'movie' an affectation.

Most of these words go back to the '50s, but here's a pure '60s word I came across the other day 'rat fink.'  Ooh, what a nasty put-down!

Here's a word I miss - 'percolator.'  That was just a fun word to say.  And what was it replaced with  'Coffee maker.'  How dull...  Mr. Coffee, I blame you for this.

I miss those made-up marketing words that were meant to sound so modern and now sound so retro.  Words like 'DynaFlow' and 'Electrolux.'  Introducing the 1963 Admiral TV, now with 'SpectraVision!'
    
Food for thought.  Was there a telethon that wiped out lumbago?  Nobody complains of that anymore.  Maybe that's what Castor oil cured, because I never hear mothers threatening kids with Castor oil anymore.

Some words aren't gone, but are definitely on the endangered list.  The one that grieves me most is 'supper.'  Now everybody says 'dinner.'  Save a great word. Invite someone to supper.  Discuss fender skirts.

Someone forwarded this to me. I thought some of us of a 'certain age' would remember most of these.



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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 03:52:15 PM »
Whatever happened to hubcaps?  Back in the 70's Cragar hubs were what kids wanted. These days it's the whole wheels that are marketed.

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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 03:59:29 PM »
Whatever happened to hubcaps?  Back in the 70's Cragar hubs were what kids wanted. These days it's the whole wheels that are marketed.
Hubcaps....4 bar flicks or sometimes called Lacers.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 04:02:17 PM »
Cigarette lighters that you'd push in for a minute after which it'd pop out with the red end and ash trays in cars are pretty much a thing of the past anymore.

"Points, plugs, and condenser" every 12,000 miles.

Leaded gas, dispensed out of a pump that you had to manually reset. Those kinda pumps had the mechanical dial indicators for number of gallons and total price.

Service stations where the guy would actually come out and pump your gas and clean your windshield, as opposed to self-serve. And keep the dirty windshields because most everybody doesn't bother doing that for themselves.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2011, 04:09:15 PM »
Cigarette lighters that you'd push in for a minute after which it'd pop out with the red end and ash trays in cars are pretty much a thing of the past anymore.

"Points, plugs, and condenser" every 12,000 miles.

Leaded gas, dispensed out of a pump that you had to manually reset. Those kinda pumps had the mechanical dial indicators for number of gallons and total price.

Service stations where the guy would actually come out and pump your gas and clean your windshield, as opposed to self-serve. And keep the dirty windshields because most everybody doesn't bother doing that for themselves.

Daddy ran a store and I pumped the gas and cleaned the windshields....before that there were 3 country stores in a row out in the country where we lived. One was a PURE station and still had the old glass top pumps. The kind of pumps with a long handle that you moved back and forth to pump the gas up into the glass bowl. The gas was measured in gallons. 10 gallons was the max the bowl would hold and then you let it gravity feed into the car gas tank. I loved pumping the handle even though I was barely big enough to work it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2011, 04:51:03 PM »
Whatever happened to hubcaps?  Back in the 70's Cragar hubs were what kids wanted. These days it's the whole wheels that are marketed.
Hubcaps have been replaced by "wheel covers"... shitty, faux-crome plastic pieces of trash that look like they came from the lowest bidder and probably contain hazardous materials.

Oh yeah... rimz, dawg.  Rimz.
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2011, 04:56:02 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 07:06:07 PM »
Cigarette lighters that you'd push in for a minute after which it'd pop out with the red end and ash trays in cars are pretty much a thing of the past anymore.
My truck has one, as did my new truck.

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Service stations where the guy would actually come out and pump your gas and clean your windshield, as opposed to self-serve. And keep the dirty windshields because most everybody doesn't bother doing that for themselves.

There might be still a few around. There's one in Hastings MN, Erickson's Freedom Valu Center. Self serve prices w/ full service. At least they used to do that through 1998. I moved in Jan 99. It sure was nice in the winter!!
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2011, 09:23:49 PM »
My truck has one, as did my new truck.

What year is your "new" truck?

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There might be still a few around. There's one in Hastings MN, Erickson's Freedom Valu Center. Self serve prices w/ full service. At least they used to do that through 1998. I moved in Jan 99. It sure was nice in the winter!!

Actually, now that I think about it, in Oregon it's state law that gas be dispensed by a station employee. They won't LET you pump your own. At least that's the way it was in 2004.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2011, 09:25:18 PM »
Daddy ran a store and I pumped the gas and cleaned the windshields....before that there were 3 country stores in a row out in the country where we lived. One was a PURE station and still had the old glass top pumps. The kind of pumps with a long handle that you moved back and forth to pump the gas up into the glass bowl. The gas was measured in gallons. 10 gallons was the max the bowl would hold and then you let it gravity feed into the car gas tank. I loved pumping the handle even though I was barely big enough to work it.

Gotta say I've never seen one of those gas pumps. This makes you look really, really old, JR.  :-)
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2011, 09:25:28 PM »
What year is your "new" truck?
I hear it has stone wheels. :-)
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2011, 09:27:52 PM »
Gotta say I've never seen one of those gas pumps. This makes you look really, really old, JR.  :-)
I saw them on that antique 'picker' show that runs on the History channel.  It's a gravity pump with a glass chamber at the top. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2011, 09:31:29 PM »
I saw them on that antique 'picker' show that runs on the History channel.  It's a gravity pump with a glass chamber at the top. 

I mean in "real life", chris!  :lmao:

When we're talkin' history with JR, we're really talkin' HISTORY!   :rotf:

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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2011, 09:32:28 PM »
What year is your "new" truck?


It WAS a 2005 King Ranch Super Crew. Now I drive old reliable which has been through as much hell as I have, a 97 F150 extended cab.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2011, 09:35:06 PM »
It WAS a 2005 King Ranch Super Crew. Now I drive old reliable which has been through as much hell as I have, a 97 F150 extended cab.

I remember BEG saying her husband bought a new truck last year. Kinda wondering if they still put in ashtrays and cigarette lighters in the REALLY new trucks.
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2011, 09:36:45 PM »
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I miss those made-up marketing words that were meant to sound so modern and now sound so retro.  Words like 'DynaFlow' and 'Electrolux.'
The Dynaflow was Buick's 2-speed automatic.  I guess Chevy's Hydramatic (later Turbohydramatic) was cheaper to make, or they just made more of them.  The TH400 (the 4L60E) is still being used today.  But you already knew that.

Hydra-Matic: The history of the first automatic transmissions

Also, the Percolator made lousy coffee.  I learned this from the Food Channel.  Viva la Television!
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2011, 09:39:03 PM »
The Dynaflow was Buick's 2-speed automatic.  I guess Chevy's Hydramatic (later Turbohydramatic) was cheaper to make, or they just made more of them.  The TH400 is still being used today.  But you already knew that.

Hydra-Matic: The history of the first automatic transmissions


I remember my mother's pink 1963 Buick Special ragtop, and its 2-speed automatic. Did it have the Dynaflow? If so, it was a piece of shit. Frickin' thing melted down a couple of times before some idiot bought it. It had no reverse gear when he bought it and didn't bother to bitch about it when he found out.   :loser:
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2011, 09:40:33 PM »
It may have been.  I've heard the 2-speed auto (ugh) was rock-solid compared to some of the manuals of the time.

There are ways around not having a reverse gear.  I'm a firm believer in the pull-through method of parking.  Anything else is a waste.  Let the unlucky bastard that came in behind you back out of his spot.  I'm taking the one in the front.
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2011, 09:45:15 PM »
It may have been.  I've heard the 2-speed auto (ugh) was rock-solid compared to some of the manuals of the time.

There are ways around not having a reverse gear.  I'm a firm believer in the pull-through method of parking.  Anything else is a waste.  Let the unlucky bastard that came in behind you back out of his spot.  I'm taking the one in the front.

I'm answering my own question about the tranny in the 1963 Buick Special. From Wiki:

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two-speed Turbine Drive[4] automatic. The two speed "Dual Path Turbine Drive" automatic was a Buick design and shared no common parts with the better known Chevrolet Power-Glide transmission.

The "Turbine Drive" in the article links to another article on the Dynaflow.

Interesting point:

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Acceleration through a Dynaflow was one smooth (if inefficient) experience. It was because of this slow shifting that the Dynaflow transmission was nicknamed "Dynaslush."

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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2011, 09:48:20 PM »
The PG may be a different unit from the HM.  I don't know enough about it to pick nits.  At the time, GM divisions had the resources to develop their own equipment.  That's what happens when you annihilate the competition during a world war.  All I know is they're a pain in the ass to replace (I helped a friend replace the torque converter on his '72 El Camino).
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2011, 10:10:20 PM »

Also, the Percolator made lousy coffee.  I learned this from the Food Channel.  Viva la Television!


  :bird:     It makes better coffee than today's damned drip coffeemakers. I use a percolator every day. It suits me just fine. The Food Network & Alton Brown aren't ALWAYS right. AB probably doesn't know how to use a percolator properly, anyways.  12 cups of "mud", made to suit this Sailor.....  :-)
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2011, 10:12:32 PM »
Sailor stew.

Coffee gives me the runs.  I don't drink it.  I don't know if it comes from the filthy office coffee-maker or the cheap grounds they use.
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2011, 10:16:03 PM »
Sailor stew.

Coffee gives me the runs.  I don't drink it.  I don't know if it comes from the filthy office coffee-maker or the cheap grounds they use.

Well, that kinda coffee -- Thor's kind -- takes some getting used to.

Sorta like heroin. Ya gotta build a tolerance first.  :fuelfire:   :tongue:
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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2011, 10:16:53 PM »
Sailor stew.

Coffee gives me the runs.  I don't drink it.  I don't know if it comes from the filthy office coffee-maker or the cheap grounds they use.

Probably both.  I took to having my own pot at my desk some years ago.
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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2011, 10:21:13 PM »
Well, that kinda coffee -- Thor's kind -- takes some getting used to.

Sorta like heroin. Ya gotta build a tolerance first.  :fuelfire:   :tongue:
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