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No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« on: May 13, 2011, 08:13:35 AM »

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KUHNER: No to Newt

Newt Gingrich has thrown his hat into the ring. The former House speaker has formally declared he will seek the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Mr. Gingrich has toyed for years with running for the White House. Now he finally is all in. Mr. Gingrich has many positive attributes. He is articulate, smart and possesses instant name recognition. Moreover, he has a political machine and a network of advisers that will help him establish a formidable ground game. Mr. Gingrich’s candidacy, however, is a dollar short and a day late.

Time has passed him by. He should have run in 2008. The Republican front-runner, Sen. John McCain, was weak and distrusted by the GOP’s conservative base. The rank and file were desperate for anyone with a scintilla of conservative credentials to challenge the centrist Arizona Republican. >>> Mr. Gingrich could have beaten then-Sen. Barack Obama, a political amateur and media-created candidate. Yet that was then. This is now. >>>

Mr. Gingrich recently told The Washington Times that his greatest failures as House speaker were his disorganization and intellectual arrogance - his refusal to work closely with other top GOP leaders. Really? That’s like saying he didn’t allow others to help him realize his inner greatness. Smug, self-satisfied and condescending, Mr. Gingrich is emblematic of the venal Republican establishment. His major failures were not tactical. They were personal. Mr. Gingrich could not tenaciously pursue Mr. Clinton during Monicagate because he, too, was ethically compromised. Mr. Gingrich is an admitted serial adulterer who has engaged in extramarital affairs. He even forced one of his ex-wives to sign divorce papers while she was about to undergo a cancer operation. In short, he is a ruthless climber and shameless opportunist; he does not have the character to be commander in chief.

Over the past decade, Mr. Gingrich has erected a financial mini-empire - lucrative speaking fees, book and TV contracts, and cozy ties with fat-cat lobbyists. He has participated in policy events teaming up with Hillary Rodham Clinton. Instead of openly confronting one of the most corrupt political families in America, Mr. Gingrich has jumped in bed with them. In the end, he champions one thing: himself. >>> MORE

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Newt Gingrich has thrown his hat into the ring. Somebody throw it back. Puhlease ...

Gingrich has good ideas but knees of Jello and feet on ball bearings. Anybody remember the Newt and Botox Queen Pelosi show on the couch pushing the Global Warming hoax? He is also smitten with Hillary Rotten Clinton. Plus, anyone can dump one sick wife, but it takes a special man to dump two. All that said, he may be an asset to the debates because of his knowledge of the issues.
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 10:07:54 AM »
His messy personal life concerns me more as a demonstration of his horrible tactical and strategic judgment, than as a morality issue, but either way it's certainly a huge problem for many of us Conservatives.  Fat Bastard is also smart but not as smart as he thinks he is, which leads to the predictable result when he tries to plan anything big, and since 2008 he has consistently backed the leftmost Republican in every off-cycle election where he's ventured an opinion.  I'm not a fan.
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 10:17:44 AM »
His messy personal life concerns me more as a demonstration of his horrible tactical and strategic judgment, than as a morality issue, but either way it's certainly a huge problem for many of us Conservatives.  Fat Bastard is also smart but not as smart as he thinks he is, which leads to the predictable result when he tries to plan anything big, and since 2008 he has consistently backed the leftmost Republican in every off-cycle election where he's ventured an opinion.  I'm not a fan.

Bingo.

So far, out of the starting gates, we have Dr. Nutz and Fat Bastard.

I'm hoping that these two warmup acts do a quick fizzle and melt away.
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2011, 10:33:22 AM »
Bingo.

So far, out of the starting gates, we have Dr. Nutz and Fat Bastard.

I'm hoping that these two warmup acts do a quick fizzle and melt away.

But Dr. Nutz is the founder/godfather of the Tea Party.  It must be true, because Fox News keeps repeating it.  :banghead:

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2011, 07:21:29 PM »
O'Reilly just played the Newt/Pelosi clip about climate change.  He's done before even getting started.

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2011, 08:11:47 PM »
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he has consistently backed the leftmost Republican in every off-cycle election where he's ventured an opinion


Being that Newt doesn't possess a great character, I can hardly imagine he is much of judge of character himself.  I have not forgotten the backpedaling he tried to do on the Scuzzyflavor fiasco.

First there was:

Scuzzyflavor FTW!!! You all don't understand her like I DO.  BIG Tent FTW!!!!1!shift1!

And then:

shit sory I screwed up k thanks, bye

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2011, 08:12:13 PM »
O'Reilly just played the Newt/Pelosi clip about climate change.  He's done before even getting started.

If you click on the text below the image I posted at the top of this thread, it will take you to a site where you can also watch the video Newt did with Pelosi.

In fact, here it is again.
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2011, 11:44:44 PM »
Being morally bankrupt is bad enough but getting in bed with the likes of Pisslosi and sucking up to RINO's reminds me of the awful candidate, McCain, we had the last time. We need a ball busting conservative that will ram conservative values down the throats of liberals and RINO's. Anything short of that and we will just muddle along; things will not improve that much.   

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2011, 12:51:30 PM »
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Shorter Newt: Yeah, I'm as much of a loose cannon as you remember.

On Ryan and Medicare.

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    The former House speaker and candidate for the GOP presidential nomination called it "radical change" and "too big a jump." Instead, he pushed for creating a system that allows people to pick other options than government-run coverage, so that they "voluntarily migrate to better outcomes, better solutions, better options."

And what are his better options? He'll let you know after we have a "national conversation". I'm not sure if that involves a listening tour or not.

So if you're up for kicking the Medicare down the road (until it comes crashing to a halt no later than 2024, if it lasts that long), Newt's your guy.

Either way, I'm sure the Democrats appreciate the campaign ad, "The GOP Medicare Plan Is Too Extreme For Newt Gingrich".

As for insurance mandates, Newt seems to think Mitt gave up too soon.

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    “I believe all of us — and this is going to be a big debate — I believe all of us have a responsibility to help pay for health care,” he said, insisting there is “a way to do it that make most libertarians relatively happy.”

    “It’s a system that allows people to have a range of choices that are designed buy the economy,” he said. “I don’t think having a free rider system in [health care] is any more appropriate than having a free rider system in any other part of the economy.”

Nice theory but as we've seen, it's not exactly the biggest problem we face in health care. You still have to subsidize the poor and it does nothing to control costs. But yeah, let's focus on that.

So too summarize, Newt is basically running to the left of Paul Ryan on entitlement reform and Mitt Romney on healthcare.

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2011, 02:14:53 PM »
Election Is About ‘Paychecks Versus Food Stamps,’ Gingrich Says

U.S. Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich rejected a suggestion that race played a role in his characterization of President Barack Obama during a May 13 speech as “the most successful food-stamp president in American history.”

“That’s bizarre, this kind of automatic reference to racism,” Gingrich said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” today. “The president of the United States has to be held accountable. And what I said is factually true.”

The number of Americans receiving food stamps rose to a record 44.199 million in February, up from 44.188 million in the previous month, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said this month. Gingrich’s comment about Obama being a “food-stamp president” came during a speech to the Georgia Republican Party’s convention in Macon, Georgia.

Obama “follows the same destructive political model that destroyed the city of Detroit,” Gingrich said today. “One of the central themes of this campaign is going to be paychecks versus food stamps,” he said.

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I dont like Gingrich but I have to give him kudos for this little gem.  :cheersmate:
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2011, 07:59:11 PM »
His messy personal life concerns me more as a demonstration of his horrible tactical and strategic judgment, than as a morality issue, but either way it's certainly a huge problem for many of us Conservatives.  Fat Bastard is also smart but not as smart as he thinks he is, which leads to the predictable result when he tries to plan anything big, and since 2008 he has consistently backed the leftmost Republican in every off-cycle election where he's ventured an opinion.  I'm not a fan.

Any conservative running for President on his third wife is a hypocrite and no one I'm willing to vote for.  If it's between him and Zer0 I'm voting for someone else, anyone else. :fuelfire:
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2011, 04:58:30 AM »
Presidential Candidate Calls It 'Right-Wing Social Engineering,
' Agrees With Obama About Need for Insurance Mandate


Yeah, Im afraid with Newts official enforcement of King Stinkys  National Health Care Plan, he is now officially toast. What an idiot. Gingrich's attack on Ryan's budget, as well as his support of a single payer system is an insult to all Americans who have fought so hard to bring budget restraint to this country, and to build a Conservative movement. Unfortunately, behind closed doors, he is probably on the same page as the GOP 'leadership'.

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2011, 04:13:54 PM »
No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread

Two names:

Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon

Ronald Reagan was governor of California in the sixties. He then had a failed presidential campaign in the 70's. Then in the 80's the Carter camp wanted to run against him, thinking he was washed up and easy to beat. Ha!

Richard Nixon was Vice President in the 50's He went through a scandal, then fell out of politics. He won the White House in '68. Ha!

Newt is a brilliant man. The question is not whether he is a re-tread or old news, because for many first time voters he is brand new to them. The question is, can he beat Obama. One thing is for sure, in a debate Newt could beat the snot out of Obama.
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2011, 04:19:51 PM »
Two names:

Ronald Reagan
Richard Nixon

Ronald Reagan was governor of California in the sixties. He then had a failed presidential campaign in the 70's. Then in the 80's the Carter camp wanted to run against him, thinking he was washed up and easy to beat. Ha!

Richard Nixon was Vice President in the 50's He went through a scandal, then fell out of politics. He won the White House in '68. Ha!

Newt is a brilliant man. The question is not whether he is a re-tread or old news, because for many first time voters he is brand new to them. The question is, can he beat Obama. One thing is for sure, in a debate Newt could beat the snot out of Obama.

I fear the question is not can Newt beat Obama, the question is can Newt beat Newt.

Newt is brilliant and all that but I fear he has a "Dean" moment waiting to come out. 
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2011, 04:21:29 PM »
I fear the question is not can Newt beat Obama, the question is can Newt beat Newt.

Newt is brilliant and all that but I fear he has a "Dean" moment waiting to come out. 

Its possible.

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2011, 04:39:27 PM »
Its possible.

I presented The Checker's Speech in speech class.   It was a great speech link below for those who have never read it.   

http://watergate.info/nixon/checkers-speech.shtml
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2011, 04:46:44 PM »
Im sure the dog catcher can beat Stinky. But I want a clear delineation. A stark contrast if you will. McCain lost because he wouldnt... no he refused to provide that.

Newt supports the global warming agenda. And now he supports the single payer fiasco. Enough is enough from Mr 'brilliance', thank you very much.

Im sick of democrat and democrat lite. Give me an unapologetic conservative. The field is still wide open. Theres still plenty of time.
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2011, 04:47:32 PM »
I presented The Checker's Speech in speech class.   It was a great speech link below for those who have never read it.   

http://watergate.info/nixon/checkers-speech.shtml

"Speech class"?

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2011, 05:46:47 PM »
"Speech class"?

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2011, 05:50:31 PM »
"Speech class"?

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2011, 08:14:15 PM »
Newt Gingrich,..............= :yawn:
What a waste of time and money.

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2011, 01:12:31 AM »
I gotta a feeling that Repubs will pick an old retread like Newt or a lying sack of shit like Romney as our standard bearer. They want a winner and the hell with what they stand for.

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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2011, 07:03:00 AM »
Newt Gingrich,..............= :yawn:
What a waste of time and money.

Right. Why bother to mess with the man who won the Congress back for us after 60 years of Democrat rules and who is probably the best debater out of all the nominess, who can whoop Obama in a debate hands down. <<shakes head>>

BTW: Dick Morris didn't see anything wrong with what Newt did, and Morris is one of the few talking heads who has actually accomplished things in the White House.
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2011, 07:20:54 AM »

BTW: Dick Morris didn't see anything wrong with what Newt did, and Morris is one of the few talking heads who has actually accomplished things in the White House.

How'd that senate race turn out last year?
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Re: No to Newt - too much baggage burdens ‘90s retread
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2011, 07:29:51 AM »
How'd that senate race turn out last year?

I didn't say Morris was omnipotent, just that he is one of the few talking heads who has actually accomplished things in the White House. Am I in error with that statement?