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Offline CC27

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If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« on: May 09, 2011, 06:04:59 PM »
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If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without permission...
   
and killing an unarmed individual because that individual is part of the never ending war on terror then I would assume you must also believe that going in to any country and killing any person you claim is also part of this war on terror must also be perfectly legal.

Or is the argument that you get to pick on choose what is legal and what is not legal based on how evil the guy you are after happens to be?

I am not losing any sleep over Bin Laden being dead. But I can't help feel uncomfortable about the fact that nobody seems to mind our government declaring any individual they want an enemy combatant then going in to any country that individual happens to be in and killing him or her without any kind of due process or even attempt at capture.

Anyone remember the Bush's executive assassination rings that Seymour Hersh talked about in 2009? I think it's against to rules to link to DU threads on the subject but I'm sure most people know of the outrage that caused back then around here and elsewhere. I was outraged about these kinds of killings back then, and with Obama in the white house I am still outraged at them today.

Huge bonfire. Poor stupid LOL shows up.

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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2011, 06:43:16 PM »
Yet crossing our border without permission is just undocumented, not illegal.
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2011, 06:48:25 PM »
Quote from: Freeper on May 09, 2011, 06:43:16 PM
Yet crossing our border without permission is just undocumented, not illegal.

You hit it on the head.  The SEALs were just undocumented security agents.
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2011, 07:11:58 PM »
Well, DUmmies, you have no choice.  You must place Barack Obama under citizens arrest. :rotf:
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2011, 07:30:42 PM »
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2011, 08:34:57 AM »
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If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without permission...
   
and killing an unarmed individual because that individual is part of the never ending war on terror then I would assume you must also believe that going in to any country and killing any person you claim is also part of this war on terror must also be perfectly legal.

Works for me!  In warfare, it is what you CAN do, not what you MAY do, that matters.  The diplomatic price of going into a country with a functional internal security apparatus, like Russia, moves that out of the 'Can' box.  Pakistan is not a failed state, quite, but to think it has an internal security apparatus we can reliably enter into a cooperative arrangement with is the thought of a fool.
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 08:42:00 AM »
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If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without permission...
   
and killing an unarmed individual...
  Our southern border jumped immediately to mind.  I didn't read the rest. 
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2011, 08:49:29 AM »
The Navy Seals....doing the work the Pakistanis are unwilling to do.
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2011, 08:52:32 AM »
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If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without permission...
   
and killing an unarmed individual...
  Our southern border jumped immediately to mind.  I didn't read the rest. 

Actually, the World Trade Center attack jumps to mind for me.  Although, in that case, the Islamofascists DID have permission to enter the country (student visas, mostly) and just over-stayed their welcome.
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2011, 10:51:23 AM »
I remember thinking this very thing when I read about Operation: Torch. I mean, here's FDR landing troops in North Africa without anyone's permission to chase Germans in response to the Japanese attacks on Pearl Harbor. I thinking, "WTF?" what sort of international war crime is THIS? No League of Nations mandate...nothing! And we're supposed to have been better than the Nazis?!?!?!

do i really need a sarcasm tag?
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Re: If you believe there is nothing illegal about going in to a country without perm
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2011, 10:57:13 AM »
Quote from: SGT Snuggle Bunny on May 10, 2011, 10:51:23 AM
I remember thinking this very thing when I read about Operation: Torch. I mean, here's FDR landing troops in North Africa without anyone's permission to chase Germans in response to the Japanese attacks on Pearl Harbor. I thinking, "WTF?" what sort of international war crime is THIS? No League of Nations mandate...nothing! And we're supposed to have been better than the Nazis?!?!?!

do i really need a sarcasm tag?

I know, man, I mean, like WTF??!!??

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