Every human necessity should have a public option.

[Freeper]

Drix (184 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri May-06-11 08:06 PM
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Every human necessity should have a public option.
   
Not just health care, but all insurance services, banking services, and energy. Why we as a people have not done this is baffling. The situation as it is now with major corporations holding these basic human services hostage for their profit is insane. You'll notice that the companies that control these products and services have eliminated any true competition for their products and services and are obscenely wealthy.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1054969

God forbid the people who invest their money and work to provide those things actually get paid for doing so.
Yet at the same time I don't see any DUmmies willing to work for free either.
In fact the DUmmies all want to be paid top wages for their work. The greedy bastards.

[diesel driver]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1054969

God forbid the people who invest their money and work to provide those things actually get paid for doing so.
Yet at the same time I don't see any DUmmies willing to work for free either.
In fact the DUmmies all want to be paid top wages for their work. The greedy bastards.

"Profit" - The new "four-letter word" for liberals.

After Koch, BP, Bush, Rove, Bilderburg, the CFR, work, job, the rich, and of course, MINE!

[Mr Mannn]

Human necessities.
Food. Housing. Clothing. All provided for free by the govt?

I can only imagine the living hell we would live in if all this was provided/controlled by the govt.

[compaqxp]

Human necessities.
Food. Housing. Clothing.

In the end this is what it really comes down to however, to many people fail to realise this.

I can only imagine the living hell we would live in if all this was provided/controlled by the govt.

But remember! Food Stamps put like 1.80 something cents back into the economy for every $1 spent. So if we let the government feed us we'd be better off anyway!   

[JohnnyReb]

Every human necessity should have a public option.

What the DUmmies really mean, "I should have the option to let the public pay for my every human necessity."

[JakeStyle]

Here ya go

[MrsSmith]

Every human necessity should have a public option.

What the DUmmies really mean, "I should have the option to let the public pay for my every human necessity."

The ultimate in human greed has nothing to do with keeping most of what you earn, it has to do with forcing your "rich" neighbors to support you.  If most DUmmies hadn't destroyed their brains with illegal drugs, they might be able to see their own hypocrisy.

[compaqxp]

Here ya go

The irony, it burns.

[whiffleball]

Here ya go

Why is it that the most corpulent scream about barely surviving?  They all look very well fed to me and they're obviously not dead unless one counts the brain matter running the automatic systems.

[jtyangel]

Human necessities.
Food. Housing. Clothing. All provided for free by the govt?

I can only imagine the living hell we would live in if all this was provided/controlled by the govt.

I'm fine with providing every DUmmie that wants it with a 20 year old buick for shelter and potato sacks for clothing. I kinda agree about having some assistance for food--nobody should be starving in this country and you don't eat, you die, but it should come with some hefty restrictions: staple items only. No pop, snack foods, etc. If you want cookies, you buy flour, sugar, baking soda, butter, and chocolate chips and make them yourself. Seems like being more stringent would teach life skills that are sorely needed for some and for others who know them, it is no skin off their back to prepare meals from scratch. Better yet, how about a return to the multi-generational home as a culture? This type of situation that was the model for a long time in the states and other countries eliminates the need for childcare and many other paid for household functions. INstead of section 8 vouchers for shitty little hovels, group families together, in homes. If certain members ar enot going to work or are on disability and capable of doing basic chores and food prepartion, then they will basically work for their families eliminating the need for childcare or to even provide 'convenience foods' since the people home and being cared for by the income providers and maybe even partially taxpayers would give something back to eliminate the need for other kinds of assistance for the family members with a higher level of need currently having younger children.

Funny thing is dummies would never go that because A) they like their pretend autonomy furnished on the back of other people and B) They have no interest in working at all, especially in some sort of cooperative situation. Ultimately, many of them are lazy and anti-social so nothing short of fully funded autonomy for them by the taxpayers is acceptable to them.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

If every thing is provided without work who works to provide every thing?

[compaqxp]

If every thing is provided without work who works to provide every thing?

It's magic 

[NHSparky]

Drix (184 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Fri May-06-11 08:06 PM
Original message
Every human necessity should have a public option.
   
Not just health care, but all insurance services, banking services, and energy. Why we as a people have not done this is baffling. The situation as it is now with major corporations holding these basic human services hostage for their profit is insane. You'll notice that the companies that control these products and services have eliminated any true competition for their products and services and are obscenely wealthy.

You know what it's called when someone "gives" you what THEY think you need, regardless of how much you need or for what you're willing to work?

SLAVERY--in this case, to the state.  Sorry, but I'm not quite ready to give myself over to the government just yet.

[dandi]

I'm fine with providing every DUmmie that wants it with a 20 year old buick for shelter and potato sacks for clothing. I kinda agree about having some assistance for food--nobody should be starving in this country and you don't eat, you die, but it should come with some hefty restrictions: staple items only. No pop, snack foods, etc. If you want cookies, you buy flour, sugar, baking soda, butter, and chocolate chips and make them yourself. Seems like being more stringent would teach life skills that are sorely needed for some and for others who know them, it is no skin off their back to prepare meals from scratch. Better yet, how about a return to the multi-generational home as a culture? This type of situation that was the model for a long time in the states and other countries eliminates the need for childcare and many other paid for household functions. INstead of section 8 vouchers for shitty little hovels, group families together, in homes. If certain members ar enot going to work or are on disability and capable of doing basic chores and food prepartion, then they will basically work for their families eliminating the need for childcare or to even provide 'convenience foods' since the people home and being cared for by the income providers and maybe even partially taxpayers would give something back to eliminate the need for other kinds of assistance for the family members with a higher level of need currently having younger children.

Funny thing is dummies would never go that because A) they like their pretend autonomy furnished on the back of other people and B) They have no interest in working at all, especially in some sort of cooperative situation. Ultimately, many of them are lazy and anti-social so nothing short of fully funded autonomy for them by the taxpayers is acceptable to them.

Now you're being a fascist. Don't you know those public options should be deluxe? Poor people deserve to drive Mercs and eat prime steaks, too! Subsidized by the rest of the taxpayers of course. Making them jump through extra hoops for their free stuff is humiliating. [/DUmode]

[Celtic Rose]

I would argue that as a society we do a pretty excellent job of getting necessities covered.  Water is plentiful and cheap, I don't recall ever hearing about a normal person dying of dehydration, or even diseases carried by water, other than those who are out in nature.  We provide food stamps to insure that people have access to food.  Our nation is one of the few where even the poor are overweight.  We provide subsidized housing for those who need it, and there are numerous private organizations who strive to help those who fall through the cracks.  There are many charitable organizations that provide used clothing to people as well, and honestly thrift store clothing can be bought for very cheap.  We have social services for those who are unable to work, though due to the abuse by some unscrupulous people some deserving people likely fall through the cracks there as well. 

I do think that some changes should be made to our social problems.  I think that every person on food stamps should be required to take both nutrition and budgeting classes.  I like jty's idea of encouraging multi-generational homes for those who have fallen on hard luck. 

[NHSparky]

I think that every person on food stamps should be required to take both nutrition and budgeting classes.  I like jty's idea of encouraging multi-generational homes for those who have fallen on hard luck. 

Racist.  Bobo will soon be by in her Buick to tell you she should be living by herself in a McMansion, you greedy capitalist.

[BattleHymn]

Banking is a necessity?   



If DUmmie Drix has any money, it is probably invested heavily in the Bank of Serta. 

[NHSparky]

I found what I was looking for...sorta.

This chick is priceless.  Oh, and google her name and stand by to punch your monitor.  What a ****ing tool.  This is where your tax money is going, people.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1RqdGePv4Q[/youtube]

[GOBUCKS]

DUmmy Drix must have missed it. Hundreds of millions lived that way for about seventy-five years. Their borders were called The Iron Curtain, and countless people died trying to escape the public option.

[jtyangel]

I found what I was looking for...sorta.

This chick is priceless.  Oh, and google her name and stand by to punch your monitor.  What a ****ing tool.  This is where your tax money is going, people.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1RqdGePv4Q[/youtube]

Well, she is one of the abusers of the system. It's important to remember that sometimes people coming out of long term marriages or just fallen on difficult times do accept assistance too for a short time. Those folks generally aren't abusing the system and you'd probably be hard pressed to find them sitting long enough on their asses eating their taxpayer funded food to end up looking like 'starvin' angelwings there. I admit I needed the help too for a while, I continued to shop as I always had when I had a food budget--staple items and *gasp* produce--I was able to buy fresh produce much to the bs spewed by the dumbasses. Most nights, I still make my children meals from scratch even though I now work.  There is no excuse for some tub-a-lard like that to not be making meals from basic ingedients instead of sitting on that ample behind watching springer and maury all day and then making an 'afterthought' dinner of chicken nuggets and fries.

BTW, starving? Hardly! These folks don't just get food stamps, they generally get free breakfast and lunch at schools for the kids too. What is recieved in food stamps really only needs to cover dinner and the weekends during the school year. Hungry my ass! The thing is when you are one of those that these programs were actually intended for: temporary assistance(and you use it for that), you get to find just what a racket some of the welfare queens are running and how "I'm hungry" is such a load of horse manure!

[diesel driver]

In the end this is what it really comes down to however, to many people fail to realise this.

But remember! Food Stamps put like 1.80 something cents back into the economy for every $1 spent. So if we let the government feed us we'd be better off anyway!   

Dude, I've noticed a mellowing in you.  I like it!   

Welcome back from the dark side!   

[Mr Mannn]

Didn't some DUmmy claim vacations were a human right?
It was a Brit article or something about taxpayer funded vacations for the poor in Spain and France...

and what about the beer and travel money thats owed?

My point is: the demands will never cease.

[MrsSmith]

We personally know a family that subsisted on government assistance until both parents got heavy enough to qualify for disability.  (As though that is somehow different? but whatever)  After that, they pulled all their kids out of public school and began to "homeschool."  One kid is my daughter's friend, she mentions little tidbits like, "Dad says were going to start having math classes next year for sure," and "We walk to the library (only the kids, of course) and write down all the book titles on certain subjects for our English classes," or "We did Home Ec all day yesterday, that's why I couldn't meet my friends at the park."  Of course, I asked her what they did for Home Ec, hoping it was something like planning a meal, shopping for groceries, cooking/baking, etc.  Nope, the kids spent the entire day cleaning house, washing dishes and doing laundry.  Now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching your kids how to do these things and having them do chores!! But picking up after Mom and Dad and doing their work is NOT a Home Ec class...it's a way for Mom and Dad to continue to pack on pounds while the kids do all the necessary labor. 

Since my daughter is in an online school this year, we made sure the parents knew that they could get their kids in an online public school for no extra money, and they'd get an actual education while still being home to wait on them all day (though I didn't say it like that, of course.  I like those kids and hate to see them end up with no diploma or GED), but "that would take too much time out of their day."   

[diesel driver]

Didn't some DUmmy claim vacations were a human right?
It was a Brit article or something about taxpayer funded vacations for the poor in Spain and France...

and what about the beer and travel money thats owed?

My point is: the demands will never cease.

No, they don't, and they just keep getting bigger.

[NHSparky]

We personally know a family that subsisted on government assistance until both parents got heavy enough to qualify for disability.  (As though that is somehow different? but whatever)  After that, they pulled all their kids out of public school and began to "homeschool."  One kid is my daughter's friend, she mentions little tidbits like, "Dad says were going to start having math classes next year for sure," and "We walk to the library (only the kids, of course) and write down all the book titles on certain subjects for our English classes," or "We did Home Ec all day yesterday, that's why I couldn't meet my friends at the park."  Of course, I asked her what they did for Home Ec, hoping it was something like planning a meal, shopping for groceries, cooking/baking, etc.  Nope, the kids spent the entire day cleaning house, washing dishes and doing laundry.  Now, there is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching your kids how to do these things and having them do chores!! But picking up after Mom and Dad and doing their work is NOT a Home Ec class...it's a way for Mom and Dad to continue to pack on pounds while the kids do all the necessary labor. 

Since my daughter is in an online school this year, we made sure the parents knew that they could get their kids in an online public school for no extra money, and they'd get an actual education while still being home to wait on them all day (though I didn't say it like that, of course.  I like those kids and hate to see them end up with no diploma or GED), but "that would take too much time out of their day."   

Sounds like a certain Ronbot poster at a now-defunct site who claimed shopping at the grocery store with her kids qualified as homeschooling.

Ain't that right, zeit?