Obama and Syria

[JohnnyReb]

Bare with me here, this may ramble around a bit. I have been thinking about this for several days.

Obama gave the go ahead to kill Osama. He had no choice, he had too. The CIA had worked long and hard to find Osama and they were not going to let him get away again without at least making an attempt to kill him. Had Obama not given them the go ahead, I am sure they would have found a way to let it "leak" out between now and the next presidential election. That would have assured Obama's defeat and Obama knew it.

Obama gets the credit for killing Osama BUT at the same time it also vindicates the Bush/Cheney waterboarding, the interrogations, renditions and the need for Gitmo. All those things that Obama campaigned against have been vindicated. All those things he stopped or tried to stop after taking office have been proven to be needed and proper. Bush and his policies are beginning to be seen as the right policies and Obama's as the wrong ones. Bush is looking good now, huh...can't have that.

Now for Syria. Obama has been at least OK with the Muslim Brotherhood ousting governments in the midest. He seems to have been in favor of Islamic turmoil in several countries to the extent of using US forces to help revolution along..... All Except in Syria. Now why would you think he wouldn't be for the overthrow of the Syrian government. Because that's where Saddam's WMD's went before Iraqi Freedom. An overthrow of the Syrian government and the discovery of those WMD would vindicate Bush's decision to go to war. And that would be the final nail in the coffin of Obama and the democrat party. Everything they said  Bush was wrong/lied about will be proven to have been true and his actions proper/right....their actions and statements were all driven by pure political destroy/undermine America BS.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

It would be implausible to think Saddam's WMD went to Iran yet Obama is just as muddle and nyah-nyah-nyah-I-can't-hear-you with the Iranians as he is with Syria.

The key to Obama isn't deep.

He's a narcissist, first and foremost. He wants easy accolades without having to do any heavy lifting. He is risk averse because if he takes risks he can be hurt politically and that means he won't politically be around for him to love himself. He only killed UBL because NOT killing him had all the risks while killing him had all the accolades.

Libya was supposed to be a days long operation. Risk: LOW

Mubarak wasn't going to resort to mass slaughter. Risk: LOW

Syria can get messy and it runs the risk of a regional war as Syria, Iran and Hezbollah thrash to preserve the regional power they are building for themselves and that would leave US forces in Iraq vulnerable especially since their combat power has been pared to the barest minimum. That would, in turn, compel an Israeli response and the last thing Obama wants is an active war where he has to side with Israel while trying to give UBL a proper burial.

There's no way Obama would risk any of that. He loves himself too much for that.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Because it's logistically im-****ing-possible.  The Isrealis want no part of it, and neither does the Iraqi government, or any other neighboring country, because in all cases they quite rightly look at us basing  operations into Syria out of their territory as something that will create a whole lot more very bad problems for them than it could possibly fix.

Syria is not a thin crust of cities like pearls on a chain along the shore like Libya, it's throroughly settled with many cities all over it, a large land territory and a large population, a whole lot more like Iran.  No matter what Obama and Clinton might "Feeeeeel" like doing, this is one where the Pentagon would say 'Aw, Hell no!' 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Because it's logistically im-****ing-possible...

Be that as it may, nobody wants an invasion.

Obama's silence, however, is deafening.

[thundley4]

All Except in Syria. Now why would you think he wouldn't be for the overthrow of the Syrian government. Because that's where Saddam's WMD's went before Iraqi Freedom.

Is that implying that Obama doesn't want to give President Bush more credit, or that he doesn't want the WMD's to  fall into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood?  See, I think he would be quite happy to let the MB have those weapons, even if it proved President Bush right about the WMD's.

Just look at Egypt and their military capabilities with US weapons.  Then we have Pakistan and their nukes, currently their government is not happy with Obama, so think how the Muslim radicals are in that country.

Did Obama really need to make the announcement about bin Laden?  Why just carry out the mission as it was done, but keep it quiet and let Pakistan bring it up that they were hiding bin Laden. 

[Thor]

0bama didn't want to keep it quiet about Bin Laden. He wanted the accolades even though he never actually made the decision to kill Bin Laden. What this does is boost his failing poll numbers  among the idiots. Panetta makes the difficult choice and 0bama receives the accolades. In 0bama's mind, it's a win-win for him.