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Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« on: April 16, 2008, 01:11:13 PM »
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Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told news editors this afternoon that President Bush has tried to turn the executive branch into an imperial presidency.

The New York senator did not mention her Democratic presidential rival, Sen. Barack Obama, or presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain, instead focusing on what she said were Mr. Bush's harmful mistakes that "weakened our nation" and "corrupted and corroded our moral authority."

Speaking at the Newspaper Association of America's annual conference, Mrs. Clinton derided Mr. Bush, saying that "rather than defending the Constitution, he has defied its principles and traditions."

She noted the long nomination battle but said, "When the campaigns conclude ... all that's left is the choice we have made.

"We have seen the power of the presidency placed in hands unready or unwilling to address the tasks that lie ahead," she said, adding an accusation that Mr. Bush squandered an opportunity to unite the world after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

Mrs. Clinton said the Bush administration has "dramatically widened the definition of classified information" to shield its work from the public.

"The president is not above the law in our system of government, and we need to make that absolutely clear starting next year," she said.

If she is elected, "starting from Day One, the Bush-Cheney era will be over in name and in practice," she said.

Though she has used many recent speeches to criticize Mr. Obama's remarks about how some rural Americans are "bitter" and "cling" to guns or religion, Mrs. Clinton did not mention the comments this afternoon. After her sharp rebuke of the Bush administration, she closed her speech with an optimistic line.

"We must not turn away from the urgency of our times and the immediacy of the tasks before us. I know that we are fully up to it," she said. "No matter how daunting it may seem, there is no one who can count us out if we are willing and able to rise and meet the challenges and seize the opportunities before us. It would be a grave abdication of our birthright, of our history as Americans were we to do any less."

During a question-and-answer session later, Mrs. Clinton drew loud applause for saying that no matter the results of the 2008 election, "Never, ever again will any child growing up in America think that an African-American or a woman cannot be the president of the United States."

Mrs. Clinton opened the forum with a joke, saying she had drawn "great strength and encouragement over the last months" over the famed newspaper headline "Dewey beats Truman."

She also spoke to journalism-specific issues such as reporters imprisoned or killed at war. She lauded The Washington Post's Pulitzer Prize-winning series on the failures at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and spoke fondly of slain journalist Daniel Pearl.

She noted the "still very profound power of the traditional press to serve and shape public interests."

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where does one start taking exception with this bucket of crap?  irrespective of the allegedly "corroded" state of our moral authority, at least it isn't sticky, which is the state in which her spurting and philandering husband left it.  and the thought that
9/11 presented an opportunity to "unite the world" is to miss the point entirely;  after 9/11, the primary objective, indeed the
only objective, was to track down and bring to justice the perpetrators, and to remove a threat to our national security from
the face of the earth.

if she doesn't understand that, then she has no business even running for the job that she seeks.  but we already knew that, of
course.

and as far as "defying the constitution" goes, I would like to know what article and section that he has violated.  and the rich
irony in hearing that from the para-spouse of an impeached former president seems totally lost on her.


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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 01:16:29 PM »
FBI files.  Check.
IRS audits of political enemies.  Check.
Travelgate.  Check.
Loral.  Check.
Lincoln bedroom.  Check.

Do I really have to go on here?
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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 01:34:06 PM »
FBI files.  Check.
IRS audits of political enemies.  Check.
Travelgate.  Check.
Loral.  Check.
Lincoln bedroom.  Check.

Do I really have to go on here?

no kidding.  hello, PERJURY?  and he ultimately agreed to a plea agreement?  disbarred for life?

these people simply have no shame.

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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2008, 01:35:16 PM »
Actually, it was only five years, but still, the damage is done.
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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 03:01:41 PM »
Actually, it was only five years, but still, the damage is done.

I thought it was his law license that was suspended for 5 years, but he is disbarred from practicing law before the arkansas and US supreme court for life.  you can petition to be readmitted, but it isn't done that often.

and, yeah, I know, big deal.  he isn't going to argue a case before either court ever again.  but he isn't going to practice law ever again, either.  it's essentially an honorary permission to begin with;  to remove it is a dishonor, which is pretty much the whole point.


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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2008, 05:12:10 AM »
Actually, it was only five years, but still, the damage is done.

I thought it was his law license that was suspended for 5 years, but he is disbarred from practicing law before the arkansas and US supreme court for life.  you can petition to be readmitted, but it isn't done that often.

and, yeah, I know, big deal.  he isn't going to argue a case before either court ever again.  but he isn't going to practice law ever again, either.  it's essentially an honorary permission to begin with;  to remove it is a dishonor, which is pretty much the whole point.



Yes, he was barred for life from being a representative in the US Supreme court.

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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2008, 06:56:34 AM »
Wasn't it Bill Clinton's vice-president who informed us their was "no controlling legal authority" to decide whether or not Gore broke the law?

I guess it is OK for a democrat to drive an 18-wheeler through the Constitution for personal gain, but a Republican President who tries to protect national security issues from treasonous bastards like The New York Times and liberal anti-American scum in congress is just going TOO FAR.

President Bush must be scorned and harassed for performing his duty to the nation while the real lying scheming criminals get to acquire $108 million on the "lecture circuit" and a Nobel Peace Prize for doing the most to try to ruin the economy of the USA.

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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2008, 08:30:42 AM »
FBI files.  Check.
IRS audits of political enemies.  Check.
Travelgate.  Check.
Loral.  Check.
Lincoln bedroom.  Check.

Do I really have to go on here?

You forgot giving N. Korea nuclear capability.
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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2008, 03:10:35 PM »
FBI files.  Check.
IRS audits of political enemies.  Check.
Travelgate.  Check.
Loral.  Check.
Lincoln bedroom.  Check.

Do I really have to go on here?

You forgot nuclear missiles to China. The Clinton White House had broken many laws.
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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2008, 03:34:21 PM »
Wasn't it Bill Clinton's vice-president who informed us their was "no controlling legal authority" to decide whether or not Gore broke the law?

I guess it is OK for a democrat to drive an 18-wheeler through the Constitution for personal gain, but a Republican President who tries to protect national security issues from treasonous bastards like The New York Times and liberal anti-American scum in congress is just going TOO FAR.

President Bush must be scorned and harassed for performing his duty to the nation while the real lying scheming criminals get to acquire $108 million on the "lecture circuit" and a Nobel Peace Prize for doing the most to try to ruin the economy of the USA.

it was amazing that "no controlling legal authority" actually flew.  simply amazing.  the vice president of the united states admitted that he broke the law, but told the country and the world that he was going to ignore it because no one had the specific responsibility to enforce it.


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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2008, 03:35:55 PM »
FBI files.  Check.
IRS audits of political enemies.  Check.
Travelgate.  Check.
Loral.  Check.
Lincoln bedroom.  Check.

Do I really have to go on here?

You forgot nuclear missiles to China. The Clinton White House had broken many laws.

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Re: Clinton: Bush defies the Constitution
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2008, 07:47:40 PM »
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
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Allow enemies their space to hate; they will destroy themselves in the process.
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