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watch for the live debate thread later tonight.  the drinking words and phrases  will be, "change", "elitist",
"out of touch", "middle class", and "drop dead, bitch". :-)

seriously, hillary has to go for the jugular tonight, while The BarackStar! has to prove that a chick can't kick his ass.
this will be a very contentious debate, and there won't be any whiney john edwards to provide a break in the knife
fighting.

in other words, this should be fun. :-)

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Obama, Clinton face off in what could be their last debate

WASHINGTON — After weeks of sniping at each other from a distance, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama meet face to face tonight in what could be their last debate.

The showdown, at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia, will be televised from 8 to 9:30 EDT on ABC. ABC News anchors Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos will moderate.

Tonight's clash comes at a crucial time, with Obama still the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination but trailing Clinton in opinion polls in Pennsylvania, which holds its primary next Tuesday. Obama also is facing new questions about how thoroughly he's been vetted and the debate is likely to include some of the flash points and revelations that have dominated the increasingly nasty campaign in recent weeks.

Among them: Obama's remarks that working-class Pennsylvanians were clinging to religion and guns out of bitterness about their economic standing, his relationship with a pastor seen in videotapes damning the United States and Clinton's efforts to capitalize on both to revive her campaign.

After gaining on Clinton in Pennsylvania, where a come-from-behind win would create enormous pressure on her to quit the race, polls suggest that Obama has stalled there.

"There is pressure on him to rebound," said Larry Rasky, a veteran Democratic strategist.

Obama's key challenge tonight is to connect with working-class voters, particularly white working-class voters.

He's long had a hard time winning them away from Clinton, and he's been newly hammered for his comments that critics charged linked such voters' embrace of religion and guns to such negative values as xenophobia.

While Obama tried photo ops such as bowling — Clinton tried a shot and a beer — he needs to make a more substantive connection with a populist economic message, more John Edwards than Adlai Stevenson, Rasky argued.

"He needs to step up and show he's on their side," Rasky said.

A new poll of likely primary voters by Quinnipiac University found Clinton stopping Obama's gains on her and holding on to a lead of 50-44 percent, but it also indicated that she hadn't gained anything from her effort to portray Obama as an out-of-touch elitist. The poll of 2,103 likely voters conducted over the weekend had a margin of error of plus or minus 2.1 percentage points.

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 06:20:46 PM »
bumping to see if everyone has their popcorn popping. :popcorn:

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 06:49:39 PM »
  the drinking words and phrases  will be, "change", "elitist",
"out of touch", "middle class", and "drop dead, bitch". :-)


Damn, everyone will be drunk before the 1st commercial break!!

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2008, 06:50:31 PM »
  the drinking words and phrases  will be, "change", "elitist",
"out of touch", "middle class", and "drop dead, bitch". :-)


Damn, everyone will be drunk before the 1st commercial break!!

yeah, well, it's a dem debate.  we will need some sort of anesthesia. :whatever: :-)

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2008, 06:51:02 PM »
  the drinking words and phrases  will be, "change", "elitist",
"out of touch", "middle class", and "drop dead, bitch". :-)


Damn, everyone will be drunk before the 1st commercial break!!
If we add "hope" to the list we'll be comatose...
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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2008, 07:01:06 PM »

good heavens.  they are playing video clips of them sniping at each other in the lead -in.

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2008, 07:02:21 PM »

obama has plants in the crowd!! the clappers are on the payroll!!111!1

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2008, 07:04:05 PM »

The BarackStar! starts off explaining the "frustration" that he is finding in PA . . . I wonder if he will explain all the "clinging" that he saw, as well. :whatever:

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2008, 07:05:21 PM »

poor hillary needs some rest;  she looks like that melting nazi in the indiana jones movie. 

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2008, 07:11:15 PM »
(gibson spends 5 minutes asking them if they would accept each other on the same ticket. :whatever:)

obama : "it's premature".

(freaking gibson quotes the constitution :whatever:)

clinton : "f*ck him".

(kidding.  she tap danced like a crazy person :-))

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2008, 07:14:31 PM »
 :rotf:  I'm not sure what is funnier, their answers or the  "transcript" on this forum... :lmao:

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2008, 07:15:09 PM »

obama explains his "mangled statement" by saying, basically, that he does it a lot.

hmmmm.  he is saying that when people get pissed off at washington, they concentrate on religion.  I still
don't get that one.  I don't even understand the point of gettign pissed off at washington.

hillary's granddad was poor, and was a methodist.  ZING!  she calls BULLSNIT on clinging to religion!




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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2008, 07:18:27 PM »

hillary pounded him pretty flat on that one.  she called BS on his spin, but didn't really lay it out there
as to what it really was. 

argh.  I forgot stephenopolioplis (whatever) was still alive until I heard his girlie little voice.


I am just NOT going to get the knife fight that I was looking for. :banghead:  maybe they can drag
john edwards out there at bitch slap him around for a while.

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2008, 07:22:36 PM »

ah, but obama "is a person of faith" (he just can't bring himself to say that he's a christian), so how
can he be elitist?  it's pretty simple.  you're a person that thinks he's better than the rest of the world,
he just believes in God while he does it.

*GASP*  we just got the lethal hillary smile.  something is coming . . . .

well, damn.  she whiffed.  swung on and missed for strike three.


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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2008, 07:27:40 PM »

jeremiah wright question . . . . I have no idea what he just said.  something about rolling stone, and
how wright only hated white people part-time anyway.

these question couldn't be any bigger softballs . . . .




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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2008, 07:29:53 PM »

OH FOR GOD'S SAKE

stephanopoliools : "do you think wright loves america as much as you do?"

he actually asked that question.  he actually did.  and he had a smarmy, self satisfied look on his face when he did it

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2008, 07:34:52 PM »

for some reason, obama just tossed in the fact that wright is a former marine.

heh.  hillary: okay, I give you wright.  what about farakhan and hamas?

stephanopoipinoplis to hillary : everyone in america thinks you are a liar because of bosnia

(cut to come dude in front of a jack in the box calling her a liar)

hillary : wesley clark is here with me tonight.  don't ask me why that matters.

stephanoplopliops doesn't seem to love the clintons any more.

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2008, 07:37:34 PM »

obama pretty much trades his "clinging" gaffe for her bosnia lie, and calls it a draw. 

:kumbaya:

this debate is revolting.  I was expecting her to kick him in the obamas. :censored:

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2008, 07:44:39 PM »

obama and the flag pin thing.  it turns out a vet gave him one, and he wears it now.  didn't he call that
FALSE patriotism a couple of months ago?  he got applause for calling that question an example of the
old politics.  he is calling EVERYTHING that hillary or the moderators ask him an example of the
old politics that he is here to change.

interesting how that works, huh?

everything he doesn't like is part of the problem.


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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2008, 07:46:18 PM »

obama and the flag pin thing.  it turns out a vet gave him one, and he wears it now.  didn't he call that
FALSE patriotism a couple of months ago?  he got applause for calling that question an example of the
old politics.  he is calling EVERYTHING that hillary or the moderators ask him an example of the
old politics that he is here to change.

interesting how that works, huh?

everything he doesn't like is part of the problem.


He's trying to get his cult back.
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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2008, 07:48:31 PM »

obama and the flag pin thing.  it turns out a vet gave him one, and he wears it now.  didn't he call that
FALSE patriotism a couple of months ago?  he got applause for calling that question an example of the
old politics.  he is calling EVERYTHING that hillary or the moderators ask him an example of the
old politics that he is here to change.

interesting how that works, huh?

everything he doesn't like is part of the problem.


He's trying to get his cult back.

then he should scream "WAR MONGERING CORPORATE WHORE!!", and throw blood on her. 

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2008, 07:51:00 PM »

obama and the flag pin thing.  it turns out a vet gave him one, and he wears it now.  didn't he call that
FALSE patriotism a couple of months ago?  he got applause for calling that question an example of the
old politics.  he is calling EVERYTHING that hillary or the moderators ask him an example of the
old politics that he is here to change.

interesting how that works, huh?

everything he doesn't like is part of the problem.


He's trying to get his cult back.

then he should scream "WAR MONGERING CORPORATE WHORE!!", and throw blood on her. 
:rotf:

I would pay  to see that!  BTW, thanks for the service you provide.  This is the only way to watch a Dem debate as far as I'm concerned.
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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2008, 07:51:58 PM »

obama and the flag pin thing.  it turns out a vet gave him one, and he wears it now.  didn't he call that
FALSE patriotism a couple of months ago?  he got applause for calling that question an example of the
old politics.  he is calling EVERYTHING that hillary or the moderators ask him an example of the
old politics that he is here to change.

interesting how that works, huh?

everything he doesn't like is part of the problem.


He's trying to get his cult back.

then he should scream "WAR MONGERING CORPORATE WHORE!!", and throw blood on her. 
:rotf:

I would pay  to see that!  BTW, thanks for the service you provide.  This is the only way to watch a Dem debate as far as I'm concerned.

this one is making me want to puke.  they're gonna start makin' out in a second, but I guess they'll talk dirty while they do it. :whatever:

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2008, 07:52:53 PM »

they have youtube type questions.  they must have homeless shelters for weeks to find these people.

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Re: Democratic Presidential Debate LIVE thread (tonight @ 8PM EDT)
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2008, 07:54:03 PM »

oh, damn.  I was going to make "moving the goalposts" a jackpot drinking phrase;  she just used it.