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Taverner (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-21-11 08:30 PMOriginal message If you do not believe in these things, you are NOT a Democrat - Freedom of Speech- Freedom of Association- Freedom of Religion- Freedom of Movement (something to consider, the Confederate States of America had Domestic Passports, just like the USSR)- The Commmon Welfare of American Citizens (also referred to as Freedom from Want)- Freedom of Sexual Lifestyle- Freedom of Thought- Freedom to Vote
RevStPatrick (158 posts) Thu Apr-21-11 08:51 PMResponse to Original message 17. Hmmm... - Freedom of SpeechYelling "Fire" in a crowded theater?- Freedom of AssociationDon't we limit, for example, certain known criminals' ability to freely associate with each other?- Freedom of ReligionRitual human sacrifice?- Freedom of Sexual LifestyleNAMBLA?
tekisui (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-21-11 08:57 PMResponse to Reply #17 20. Your examples are limitations because they infringe on another person's freedom.
RevStPatrick (158 posts) Fri Apr-22-11 08:38 AMResponse to Reply #20 54. No. Wrong. I want to voluntarily submit myself for ritual human sacrifice. I'm not allowed to do that, and the high priest will end up in jail for the rest of his life after plunging the knife in my chest. Who's rights have been infringed upon?The 14 year old boy next door REALLY wants to be my homosexual lover for the last days of my life before the sacrifice, but he is not legally allowed to. Who's rights have been infringed upon?Things are not always as simple as they seem, and I think the OP should turn in his Democratic Party membership card at the front desk.
mckara (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-21-11 08:54 PMResponse to Original message 18. Actually, JFK Stated the Democratic Party had 3 Pillars: Education for Our Children Employment for Our People Security for Our Elders Those are the fundamental underpinnings of the party.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-21-11 08:58 PMTHE 1986 BUICK, #04 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2010Response to Reply #18 23. Children can have education but not security? Its OK if they are physcially ill, and malnourished, as long as they are in school?
darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-21-11 10:09 PMResponse to Reply #2337. Are you ****ing kidding me? How in the name of Sir Isaac H. Newton did you come up with that from what mckara posted?
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-21-11 10:16 PMTHE 1986 BUICK, #04 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2010Response to Reply #37 41. I am able to read. And unlike this post I am replying to, I didn't find it necessary to swear and harangue.If you want to calmly discuss it, let me know.Otherwise, the tone is obviously not one of discussion, but uproar.You have a good evening.
darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-21-11 10:23 PMResponse to Reply #41 43. The question was serious, and you can drop the "tone" stuff. You managed to twist the words of JFK quoted here to mean that either JFK, mckara, or someone else here believed that every other problem suffered by children was excusable as long as they were in school. That is an incredible and ridiculous feat, and it received the proper response. If you care to explain how you arrived at such a twisted interpretation of those words above, feel free. If you'd rather spend your time dropping into threads to chide and infuriate wherever you can, then I guess I'll see you later.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-21-11 10:41 PMTHE 1986 BUICK, #04 TOP PRIMITIVE OF 2010Response to Reply #43 45. Have a good life.
pipi_k (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-22-11 09:40 AMResponse to Original message 58. Does that include... Freedom of speech for everybody?Like...people we don't agree with? Or is it just for people whose views we share? I can't even count how many times I've seen people here think they have a right to "shut up" RWers or Teabaggers or anybody else with whom they disagree...even other DUers.Or they go into a public place and demand that the TV channel be changed, apparently thinking they have the right to censor what everyone else sees.Yes, they have the freedom to say, "I don't agree with Fox News" but they don't have the right to censor what other people can see in a public place.How many here call themselves "Democrats" and believe in the concept of Free Speech, but have trouble with the reality of it?
pipi_k (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-22-11 09:40 AMResponse to Original message 58. Does that include...Freedom of speech for everybody?Like...people we don't agree with? Or is it just for people whose views we share? I can't even count how many times I've seen people here think they have a right to "shut up" RWers or Teabaggers or anybody else with whom they disagree...even other DUers.Or they go into a public place and demand that the TV channel be changed, apparently thinking they have the right to censor what everyone else sees.Yes, they have the freedom to say, "I don't agree with Fox News" but they don't have the right to censor what other people can see in a public place.How many here call themselves "Democrats" and believe in the concept of Free Speech, but have trouble with the reality of it?
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-22-11 10:32 AMResponse to Reply #58 66. Agree 100% Edited on Fri Apr-22-11 10:32 AM by Taverner"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. "--Evelyn Beatrice HallEdited for spellingk
dembotoz (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-22-11 01:57 PMResponse to Original message 80. were is choice???? needs to be spelled out these daysin capital letters
Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr-21-11 08:30 PMOriginal messageIf you do not believe in these things, you are NOT a Democrat - Freedom of Speech Unless you are a right winger- Freedom of Association As long as you aren't a right winger- Freedom of Religion Muslims only- Freedom of Movement (something to consider, the Confederate States of America had Domestic Passports, just like the USSR) As long as you drive a hybrid- The Commmon Welfare of American Citizens (also referred to as Freedom from Want) Unless you want to keep what you earn and take care of yourself- Freedom of Sexual Lifestyle Unless you have too many kids- Freedom of Thought Unless we don't like what you are thinking- Freedom to Vote Even if you aren't a citizen
I see the Bobosaurus Rex managed to drive the Buick over another DUmmie
"Bobosaurus Rex."Damn, you're good, sir.
