do we scare the primitives?

[franksolich]

I got an e-mail--at my regular e-mail address, my real one, not the clarebootheluce gmail--from one of my sources on Skins's island who says "it's common talk" on Skins's island that some primitives sometimes are "scared" to post in a forum, or comment at a campfire, because of the prospective reaction of decent and civilized people.

No way.

Of course, if it were true, that might explain the non-rush-hour non-traffic in the cooking and baking forum on Skins's island, or in the mental health forum, or in the weight-loss forum.

All one need do is look at the deaf-and-hard-of-hearing forum, which one time long ago used to inspire some traffic--not much, but some--but which ever since it was first featured at our old home, traffic dwindled down to about two posts every three months.

But one finds it difficult to believe the primitives are "scared" of decent and civilized people.

I can't believe it, but my source on Skins's island, a Democrat but sympathetic to franksolich, says it's so.

No way.  franksolich is open-mouthed in astonishment.  It can't be true.

After all, the purpose of the DUmpster, a purpose to which it has firmly adhered since its founding, is to illuminate, not chase away.

There is no reason for a primitive to fear decent and civilized people.

In fact, the primitives, because of the habitual violence of the left, present more of a threat to decent and civilized people, than we do to them.

This is why, after franksolich exposed the sparkling husband primitive as a caporegime in the d'Alessandro crime family of Baltimore, those concerned for his safety up here on the roof of Nebraska, on the eastern slope of the Sandhills, began keeping their eyes open for Italian-looking strangers coming through this area.

The sparkling husband primitive is never going to get out to Nebraska, but because of his "connections" involved with his "career," his "business associates" such as Bernardo "the Egg" or Giuseppe "the Gut-Buster" or Luigi "the Leg-Breaker" or "Pretty Boy" Vincenzo or "Thumbs" Mario or Matteo "the Dentist" or "Fats" Salvatore, might show up here to deal with franksolich.

If an Italian-looking stranger shows up here, and there's baseball bats in the trunk of his automobile, he'll probably have some explaining to do.  Better that he have the trunk loaded with bales of marijuana, than that.

I can't believe it.  What would the primitives have to fear, from decent and civilized people?

[LC EFA]

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There is no reason for a primitive to fear decent and civilized people.
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I can't believe it.  What would the primitives have to fear, from decent and civilized people?

This is sarcasm, right ?

I can't think of any demographic with more to fear from "decent and civilised people" than the inmates of skins asylum.

[franksolich]

This is sarcasm, right ?

I can't think of any demographic with more to fear from "decent and civilised people" than the inmates of skins asylum.

I'm thinking of scaring in the physical sense, though; that the primitives are afraid decent and civilized people will actually approach them, and beat them up.

[Chris_]

This is sarcasm, right ?

I can't think of any demographic with more to fear from "decent and civilised people" than the inmates of skins asylum.

I was going to keep quiet, but this is probably the best answer you'll get.

Ditto, and all that.

[franksolich]

I was going to keep quiet, but this is probably the best answer you'll get.

Ditto, and all that.

I had asked the source last week to see if he could find out why a prominent primitive's been absent from the cooking and baking forum, as it's a great loss when she's not there.

I was appalled.  There's no way franksolich is going to go down to northeastern Oklahoma, where there's a man-eater and his submissive wife on the loose.

[Chris_]

If I come across any actual members of DU in Tennessee, I promise I won't hurt them.

They're not worth the bail money.

[franksolich]

If I come across any actual members of DU in Tennessee, I promise I won't hurt them.

They're not worth the bail money.

It's the paranoia of the primitives, again.

To the primitives, innocently reading and commenting upon them is "stalking."

franksolich at the moment is reading and commenting upon My China Years (Helen Foster Snow, 1984, William Morrow and Co.), so one supposes that means franksolich is stalking Helen Snow.

Damn, the primitives are paranoid.

[Chris_]

That's what happens when you spend your later formative years smoking weed and then spending your entire adult life wishing you could go back again.

[formerlurker]

Delicious.

[franksolich]

Delicious.

I can't believe it, madam.

franksolich is a nice guy, one of the nicest guys one can ever hope to meet.

franksolich would give the shirt off his back, and has.

Even though franksolich is 6'3" tall and in good physical shape, franksolich cannot possibly intimate anyone in real life, given that he's deaf.  For the deaf, what is on either side of them, and behind them, does not "exist;" the only things that exist are those things right in front of them.

Which makes franksolich a sitting duck for being gotten from behind, or on either side.

Who's the vulnerable one here, a man-eater or franksolich?

This is preposterous.

[Ballygrl]

I'm thinking of scaring in the physical sense, though; that the primitives are afraid decent and civilized people will actually approach them, and beat them up.

That's ridiculous, we want to argue with them not beat them up.

[formerlurker]

They post and don't want to be called out on their posts.   They are cowards.  

Pam and others like her practically gave out their SSNs, they provided so much information about their lives.    They post outlandish lies, and then act horrified when the lies catch up with them.

It's the internet.  Anyone can read their posts.  They can't handle that, then they shouldn't be posting.

[formerlurker]

That's ridiculous, we want to argue with them not beat them up.

Agreed.   

[franksolich]

That's ridiculous, we want to argue with them not beat them up.

The paranoia of the primitives.

I think I'll copyright that phrase.

After contemplating the matter at some length, it occurs to me that the man-eater down there in northeastern Oklahoma, or at least his wife, really believes that franksolich has a camera aimed on their home, and that his stories of the Packer clan are so close to the truth that that has to be it; franksolich has a camera on them.

It's obviously never occurred to either of them that some of us are capable of taking a patch of information here, a scrap of data there, an offhand comment from a third place, a bit of fact from a fourth place (all kindly provided by the man-eater's wife herself, in her comments in the cooking and baking forum)--taking 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 and coming up with 4.

edited to correct--damn-- two grammatical errors, which betrays franksolich's utter suspension of belief; sorry for the inconvenience, and carry on.....

[true_blood]

Maybe they're scared of us because we know the truth and can smell a lie when we hear/read one.

[GOBUCKS]

I'm sure it's a factor. Some of them are just intimidated by having their weirdness and depravity exposed to the sunlight of civilized examination. The Las Vegas Leviathan has simply disappeared due to stage fright at being the star of a freak show. Pam Dawson has pretty much left the building because her fellow DUmbasses started attacking her out of jealousy over her Top DUmmy award. The pathetic drunkard Pitt, and the know-it-all nutcase nadin have virtually disappeared mainly due to the derision they've absorbed from other DUmbasses, motivated at least in part by the DUmp's embarrassment at the mocking laughter of decent and civilized people. Lots of different reasons, but a common thread is their association with normal, civilized people. That said, I still expect the nutcase nadin to re-emerge. I think she will suffer any insult, overlook any mistreatment, absorb any indignity in order to get attention. She will just keep expanding her already comprehensive "ignore" list until it covers the entire DUmp, minus her sycophants and sock puppets.

[franksolich]

Maybe they're scared of us because we know the truth and can smell a lie when we hear/read one.

Well, sir, given that the DUmpster is heavily-reliant upon material provided by the primitives--and right now, material from the cooking and baking primitives is rather stingy--one is compelled to reassure the primitives that there is no reason, no reason at all, to fear any sort of real-life intrusion into their primitivities by decent and civilized people, any more than you or I can intrude on whatever's being shown on the screen of a television.

[Mr Mannn]

Why do roaches and ner-do-wells fear the light?  It reveals their deeds/innermost desires.

For example we have two recent DU threads where they defend pedophilia and kiddie porn.
They frequently support violence, and murder.
They have threatened President Bush and have been visited by the Secret Service.

They fear scrutiny because deep down they know their lives are built on lies.
Its for the same reason they fear and hate Christians and Jews (they know what they do is wrong).
They fear and hate the rule of law, the Constitution, and all authority..because their lives are one long violation of law.
They fear and hate their own families (full of fundies and conservatives) because their lies aren't tolerated, and they are forced to face TRUTH.

It must be a miserable existence to live with so much fear and hate.
When a life is lived in a lie, delusion is preferable to truth...any light, no mater how small must be shunned.

[franksolich]

Some of them are just intimidated by having their weirdness and depravity exposed to the sunlight of civilized examination.

You know, sir, that got me to thinking; I'm still all shook up and discombobulated at the allegation that franksolich could possibly in any way be a physical "threat" to a primitive in real life, and so my thinking's still all trembly and uncertain.

Anyway.

It may be the case that the primitives, as you say, are at least subconsciously aware that they're primitives, unaesthetic brutes in their oddities and idiosyncrasies, and fear being exposed for that.

But the primitives want, and want very badly, to believe as if they're robustly normal.

But there's this fear. 

Fear of one thing can actually be misdirected towards fear of another thing.

And so the primitives replace "fear of appearing silly" with "fear of being in physical danger."

It's all bullshit, of course.

As I said earlier, the DUmpster is dependent upon material that the primitives give us, and it's vexing when a primitive gives us less than what the primitive can give us.

As for the misdirected fear, at the moment franksolich is interested in meeting only two primitives in real life (but in a comfortable, at-ease, mellow, warmly formal, setting); as for all the other primitives, including the man-eater's wife, franksolich wouldn't give them the time of the day, in real life.

[franksolich]

They fear scrutiny because deep down they know their lives are built on lies.

That's it, sir, that's what the primitives subconsciously fear; that's their real fear.

But they very badly don't want to believe that's a legitimate fear, and so the primitives take that and direct it at their fear of being physically troubled in real life by those watching them only as if characters in a half-hour situation comedy on television.

[USA4ME]

Why do roaches and ner-do-wells fear the light?  It reveals their deeds/innermost desires.

Game. Set. Match.

They're so scared they want radio personalities and TV broadcasts with which they disagree to be eliminated.  They're scared when average citizens who have never protested before in their lives suddenly start voicing themselves, and it's things opposed to what they want.  They're scared for all the reasons any totalitarian ideology in the history of the world has ever been scared.  They say things on-line they wouldn't dare say to anyone's face.

Yes, they're scared.  Why?  Because they're weak both intellectually and physically, and we know it, and they know we know it.  People who approach political issues, or life for that matter, from a standpoint of confidence in knowing they represent the truth don't behave the way the primitives do.  To me, that says everything.

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[Ballygrl]

frank, were they upset with your Easter story?

[franksolich]

frank, were they upset with your Easter story?

I dunno, but I suspect so, although I always considered the sparkling husband primitive the only worthy literary critic of mine on Skins's island.

The gist of it is pretty simple; the man-eater's wife thinks franksolich has actually been around her neck of the woods, in real life, and is watching her, because his sagas of the Packer clan are so true-to-life he must be there, in person, to see it.

Which is utter nonsense.

franksolich wouldn't touch northeastern Oklahoma with a ten-foot primitive; it's too hot down south for him; remember, franksolich is temperature-sensitive, and starts sweating like a pig when it's 60 degrees or hotter.

And also, there's the matter of the man-eater being loose down there.

There's also franksolich's peculiar vulnerability; Wild Bill could come up behind him, and I'd be dead meat without ever knowing what happened.

[Ptarmigan]

Paranoia runs deep in them. That's why they are scared.

[franksolich]

Paranoia runs deep in them. That's why they are scared.

Well, there's no reason for any primitive to be scared of decent and civilized people; we're not running around in real life hunting them down so as to wreak some physical damage; we're simply watching them as if they're on the screen of a television set, nothing more.

The primitives should get back to hanging around campfires in their favorite forums with absolutely no fear or inhibition or restraint.  Nobody's coming to get them; we're just sitting back, watching them for amusement and illumination and, of course, anthropological purposes.