DUmmies Discuss A New Civil War

[GOBUCKS]

DUmmy Cyrano, sounding all melodramatic and really, really stupid:

Cyrano  (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 11:26 AM
Original message
We are in the middle of a second Civil War
 
All that’s missing are the bullets, artillery and bayonets, and the reason is geography. This one isn’t North against South. It’s neighbor against neighbor.

There’s no cure for ignorance. And the ignorant can’t dumb down those who are aware. That being the case, there’s no knowing how long this current Civil War will continue.

But there can be no doubt that we are a divided country filled with far too much hatred. And there are issues on which it is totally impossible to agree or compromise.

So does anyone have a clue on how or when this crap will end? I don’t.

What’s your take on it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x921726
Just another moonbat who doesn't care a whit about poverty. What about bobbolink?
 

BrklynLiberal  (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. It may have been smoldering under the surface for at least the past century and a half. 
 
The perfect overlap of red states and confederate states is no mere coincidence.

It must be a challenge to be a Democrat or progressive in a red state...even more so than it ever was before.

Wonder if those tbaggers and rwingnuts that live in the red states have a full comprehension of what life would be if they actually seceded and did not get any aid at all from the Federal Government. 

lector (28 posts)      Tue Apr-19-11 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #4
18. Smoldering Hell !!!!
Just try being a Liberal(sic) in the Panhandle of Fl. It's a(sic) Effing(sic) nightmare. The average I.Q. here is about room temperature.

Speaking of room temperature IQ, how much does it take to avoid random capitalization, and learning when to use "an" instead of "a".
 

Aerows  (855 posts)      Tue Apr-19-11 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #18
28. Exactly
I'm not too far from where you are (Gulf Coast of Mississippi). Room temperature might be too high.

Aerows  (855 posts)      Tue Apr-19-11 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #4
25. It IS a challenge
 I live in Mississippi. At least I live on the Gulf Coast where there are still a few of us. I've lived in the South all of my life, and I can tell you *NOTHING* conservatives do or think shocks me. Many of them understand that Republican policies harm them, and you can talk to them, and explain that they are voting against their own best interests, but then they will turn right around and vote Republican again.

It's insanity. Talk to a person that is 60 here in Mississippi, and explain that Republicans want to raise the retirement age for Social Security and Medicare to 70, and they express shock and horror. But you can bet when it is time to show up at the polls, they will pull the handle for whatever Republican shrieks loudest about morals, gay people and abortion.

I'm one of those gay people, too.

Sorry, DUmmy Aerows, but that shock and horror you see on their faces is because they just realized they shook the bare hand of a flaming faggot. Eeeww.

cali  (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 11:30 AM
Response to Original message
2. "all that's missing are the bullets, artillery and bayonets"
that's quite a bit. We're definitely in an era of cultural and political strife, but that's not unprecedented.

As for where it will lead? If gas and food prices lead to hungry people, it will get violent.

The DUmbasses are totally lost with out know-it-all nadin to explain the trends. If they would read the script, and understand the script, then anyone could do it.
 

lilbethm (23 posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #2
9. It is already getting violent
Gunshots in our neighborhood, and upper middle class NJ neighborhood. And the neighborhood next to it a small fight at the mall, all in one weekend. I also had a FB friend who had his back car window shot out in MA...IF ITS NOT REPORTED IT DIDN'T HAPPEN REMEMBER?

cali  (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #9
26. And you have evidence that these acts were committed out of political
 motivation? Please post that evidence. Violence having nothing to do with politics is hardly unheard of in this country.

Sorry, but there is little evidence of political violence in the U.S. Not saying it couldn't happen in the future, but it's not happening now.

   

lilbethm (23 posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. Violence
The MA resident had a political sticker, The NJ Gunshots were a Man who was distraught over his situation, and the Fight was over people being stupid. Its all pressure from circumstances, political circumstances, RE Starving broke people blaming each other because thats what we are being fed.

Apparently every big city has a civil war underway. Most battles are being fought somewhere near M. L. King Boulevard...

w4rma  (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #3
32. There won't be another civil war in this environment. There are too many of us and not enough of
them.

By "us", I mean regular American citizens. By "them", I mean greedy billionaires who lobby and war against "us" to take "ours".

Now this is funny. DUmmy randomlettersandanumber thinks DUmp democrats are regular American citizens!


And the best post of all:

Ozymanithrax  (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
13. Ultimately, the U.S. empire will crash followed by a vast, deep depression...
 We sill rupture along ideological and regional lines, much like the Old Soviet Union.

At some point, some idiot will start shooting, and the shooting will last a long time. The victors will define who was virtuous.

As a liberal, I would not want to live in Texas (or anywhere in the South) where ideological cleansing would be expected.

We will not see great armies in blue and gray, fighting set battles on open fields. What we will see will resemble widespread guerrilla warfare with IUD's and death for all. 

We may be blown up by birth control devices. Carpet bombed with condoms. The horror of it all is overwhelming.

[Karin]

What we will see will resemble widespread guerrilla warfare with IUD's and death for all. 

    IUD's   

We should probably c&p that into Posts that Stand Alone for posterity.  Priceless. 

[Mike220]

Noob going up against the DUmp legend that is the Large Nosed Primitive.

ParkieDem (330 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list    Tue Apr-19-11 11:41 AM
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19. I must disagree.
   
Yes, the vitriol seems heated at times, but I often think the media overstates this. Yes, there are strong pockets of hatred, but I don't think they are much more fiery than at other "normal" times in our history.

When people talk about North vs. South, urban vs. rural, etc., I think of two events: the first is 9/11. New York and Washington were attacked. Aside from some far-right crazies like Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, were there any prominent southerners saying "them damn Yankees got what was comin' to 'em."? Not that I saw. I saw liberals and conservatives here in Texas taking Red Cross trips to New York to aid in the rescue/recovery effort. I saw people of all political stripes praying for people in New York. Yeah, some people down here may talk alot about the fancy-pants New Yorkers, their liberalism and all that, but when it comes to a terrorist attack like that, I still believe most people think of themselves as Americans and support their fellow Americans.

The second thing I think about is the Oklahoma City bombing (which happened 16 years ago today, I might add). Timothy McVeigh thought the bombing would spark a race war or something like it in which the far right would take up arms against the government. Did that happen? No. Virtually all Oklahomans -- a conservative lot, no doubt -- strongly condemned McVeigh and everything he stood for. Liberals from New York, California and other places poured in to OKC to help.

Granted, these events were several years ago. But I still liken the attitudes of Americans to a big family, in the sense that "hey, I can talk bad about my own family, but when someone else does, I'm the first to defend them." I feel this way quite a bit when traveling abroad. If I hear Brits or French people attacking America for being provincial or redneck, I'm quick to defend my fellow countrymen, even if there is a nugget of truth to that criticism. I think that's part of being an American. It's not as far as saying "my country, right or wrong," but it's about that common bond of Americanism.

This will not end well for you.

[Boudicca]

All that’s missing are the bullets, artillery and bayonets

Cyrano is misusing the word WAR.  War is serious business, as anyone with a lick of military experience could tell him.  We might have differences of opinions, and some very obnoxious people I'd love to stuff down a well, figuratively speaking of course BUT that doesn't constitute a war.

Go back to flinging poo at the other monkeys in your asylum now.

[Ralph Wiggum]

  IUD's   

We should probably c&p that into Posts that Stand Alone for posterity.  Priceless. 

[DumbAss Tanker]

Since they are such selfish, self-indulgent haters of human life, I don't think we will have to resort to IUDs to take them out.

 

They never tire of playing the drama queens.  Civil war my ass, 'Money talks and bullshit walks,' and all I'm seeing over there is poorly-executed walking.

[Odin's Hand]

BobbyBoring  (829 posts)      Tue Apr-19-11 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #34
54. Cival and War
 Those words don't go to well together!

Not a response to your post, just where the thought popped up~
 

No immediate threats to us here CC or at FR and CU?

The primitives are slipping...

[Ralph Wiggum]

No immediate threats to us here CC or at FR and CU?

The primitives are slipping...

And Bobby Boring can't even spell "civil" correctly.

[delilahmused]

Sometimes when you're convinced you're the smartest people in the room (or in this case, the country) even when you've never spent time getting to know them, even when you let your opinions, conceived in the prejudice of your own echo chamber color your opinion without being open minded and smart enough, you're incapable of rethinking your opinion on anything. Just how progressive is that? Oh, and if that IUD doesn't work, I know where you can get a working coat hanger.

Cindie

[ChuckJ]

All that’s missing are the bullets, artillery and bayonets

Cyrano is misusing the word WAR.  War is serious business, as anyone with a lick of military experience could tell him.  We might have differences of opinions, and some very obnoxious people I'd love to stuff down a well, figuratively speaking of course BUT that doesn't constitute a war.

Go back to flinging poo at the other monkeys in your asylum now.

Yeah, that's what I thought. To paraphrase Cyrano: We're in the middle of the second Civil War. All that's missing is the war and stuff.

[formerlurker]

lilbethm (23 posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #26
31. Violence
The MA resident had a political sticker, The NJ Gunshots were a Man who was distraught over his situation, and the Fight was over people being stupid. Its all pressure from circumstances, political circumstances, RE Starving broke people blaming each other because thats what we are being fed.

Unless that sticker was a tea party sticker, then anyone who had their window shot out for a leftist sticker would make front page news. 

Bouncy to the max.

[Karin]

Wait a minute.....

cali  (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #31
40. oh ****ing please. so there are starving people in your upper miidle class
 NJ suburb? Lol.

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 lilbethm (27 posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 12:49 PM
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44. YES AND I WAS ONE OF THEM
 Ive had to go to A food bank to feed us 3 times this year. Im not on welfare, have no credit cards, yes there are plenty of people already starving because we have to pay inflated Gas and Electric bills, and inflated everything else and our Incomes are lower...get a grip

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 cali  (1000+ posts)        Tue Apr-19-11 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #44
48. look, I'm sorry you're having a hard time, but you're clearly not starving
 there are not plenty of people starving in this country.  l And I know about being poor because I am poor and yes, it's wearing and it's tough.

I thought that Cali had that lovely garden restaurant in Vermont that she can afford to run only for a few months out of the year.  The rest of the time she catches up on her reading.  You know, the restaurant that charges $25 for a pot of tea.  Froufrou vegetarian cuisine. 

[Rebel]

lilbethm (27 posts)  Tue Apr-19-11 01:07 PM

Response to Reply #48

49. I disagree
   
I pay my Gas n electric in Person, its so heartbreaking to see people crying over the bill. And go to your local food bank and volunteer for a day, how many meals a day do I need to miss, or how many days without food would you consider starving? You assume lots. And the hard times for me I think are over now, but hard times is an understatement. I live half the life I had 4yrs ago. Im much happier this way though I must say.

Oh, go ---- yourself, you puss. MOST days the only meal I eat is lunch. Not because I can't afford it, it's because that's the caloric intake I need. If it wasn't, I'd be dropping pounds like flies, but alas, I'm still at about 190. I also cook as a middle-aged bachelor (damn I hate that term) meaning when I cook burgers, I cook about 3 lbs. I eat burgers for 3-4 days. I'll grill two 7 dollar packs of country ribs that'll last me for another 3 days. I just finished the huge amount of nachos that I made on Sunday. I eat for 3 days on as little as 10 dollars.

You just want something to bitch about, you little fruitcake.

[Rebel]

BTW, Obama SAID your gas prices will "necessarily" skyrocket and he isn't opening up ANY more drilling so go bitch to him, but oh no, you just sit there like a fungus blaming the party that has nothing to do with this shit.

F'n idiot.

[franksolich]

Wait a minute.....

I thought that Cali had that lovely garden restaurant in Vermont that she can afford to run only for a few months out of the year.  The rest of the time she catches up on her reading.  You know, the restaurant that charges $25 for a pot of tea.  Froufrou vegetarian cuisine. 

The bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, who's rumored to be an elderly aunt or something of my fellow alum Skins, cooks at that garden restaurant.  It's actually owned by two pretentious women who charge $29.95 for a pot of tea in an "English" country setting.

There was a link to it posted here a long time ago; it's in extreme northern Vermont.

I'm not sure the source of income for the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, who isn't quite old enough--almost, but not there yet--to get social security retirement. 

Like Mrs. Alfred Packer and Wild Bill, she lives way out in the country, trying to live as Abe and Mary in their log cabin and Joe and Sadie in their sodhouse did in the old days.  She has chickens.

When reading the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, I get the "picture," the mind-image, of a tall formidable not-thin-not-fat bitter old woman dressed in a greatcoat and rubber golashes, outside sprinkling bread-crumbs for the chickens, the coat stained with grease.

[LC EFA]

Sometimes when you're convinced you're the smartest people in the room (or in this case, the country) even when you've never spent time getting to know them, even when you let your opinions, conceived in the prejudice of your own echo chamber color your opinion without being open minded and smart enough, you're incapable of rethinking your opinion on anything. Just how progressive is that? Oh, and if that IUD doesn't work, I know where you can get a working coat hanger.

Cindie

I've got a length of stout rope and a packet of razor blades if they'd care to make a pre-emptive strike,

[NHSparky]

Oh, go ---- yourself, you puss. MOST days the only meal I eat is lunch. Not because I can't afford it, it's because that's the caloric intake I need. If it wasn't, I'd be dropping pounds like flies, but alas, I'm still at about 190. I also cook as a middle-aged bachelor (damn I hate that term) meaning when I cook burgers, I cook about 3 lbs. I eat burgers for 3-4 days. I'll grill two 7 dollar packs of country ribs that'll last me for another 3 days. I just finished the huge amount of nachos that I made on Sunday. I eat for 3 days on as little as 10 dollars.

You just want something to bitch about, you little fruitcake.

Damn, and here I thought I was the only one who cooked like that.

Oh, and DUmmies?  You sound so silly when you try to talk all hard and shit.  Don't do it.  It's not very convincing.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Oh, and DUmmies?  You sound so silly when you try to talk all hard and shit.  Don't do it.  It's not very convincing.

Laughable, really, when you match it up with all their woes about attempts to get on the disability gravy train, their ages, and their general demonstrated ineffectiveness at any task involving the real world.

[GOBUCKS]

The bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, who's rumored to be an elderly aunt or something of my fellow alum Skins, cooks at that garden restaurant.  It's actually owned by two pretentious women who charge $29.95 for a pot of tea in an "English" country setting.

So she's not starving, but it's only because the misplaced Massholes who own the shop let her eat leftovers from the customers' plates. If she can relocate about a thousand miles west, she could probably score a gig at a new pie shop that's opening soon, and make some serious money.