Congress Strikes a Budget Deal, Averts Shutdown

[Freeper]

DEVELOPING: Congressional leaders, with barely an hour to go before a federal government, announced late Friday night they had reached a deal to fund the government through the end of the fiscal year.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/08/congress-strikes-budget-deal-averts-government-shutdown/#ixzz1IzY99W8L

[Airwolf]

Yeah nothing changes and the Rinos are still giving in.

[longview]

Boy, that was a nail biter.   

[Freeper]

Just as I predicted, there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth here.

Yeah I realize we may not have got 100% of what we wanted, but from what I see they are trying to stand up against Obama and Harry Reid.
Maybe I'm the crazy one for having realistic expectations that sometimes compromise will be made. Oh well the dems will have control of all 3 houses in 2012 again since the GOP still isn't pure enough for some people. I can't recall a time when the GOP has put up a fight this big and yet somehow that still isn't enough.

[Duke Nukum]

They don't even bother to attempt to educate the voters and bring us along.Boenher is worse than worthless. If he doesn't want to lead, he should step down and let Ryan or Bachman take over.

[Ptarmigan]

I wonder why this was no address back in late 2010. Why now?

[Ballygrl]

Just as I predicted, there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth here.

Yeah I realize we may not have got 100% of what we wanted, but from what I see they are trying to stand up against Obama and Harry Reid.
Maybe I'm the crazy one for having realistic expectations that sometimes compromise will be made. Oh well the dems will have control of all 3 houses in 2012 again since the GOP still isn't pure enough for some people. I can't recall a time when the GOP has put up a fight this big and yet somehow that still isn't enough.

It's taken almost 3 years for the Birth Certificate to become an issue and it's been brought to the forefront basically by a political outsider. I had no such illusions that the Republicans would stand up to the Democrats especially with crybaby Boehner at the helm.

[Duke Nukum]

Just as I predicted, there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth here.

Yeah I realize we may not have got 100% of what we wanted, but from what I see they are trying to stand up against Obama and Harry Reid.
Maybe I'm the crazy one for having realistic expectations that sometimes compromise will be made. Oh well the dems will have control of all 3 houses in 2012 again since the GOP still isn't pure enough for some people. I can't recall a time when the GOP has put up a fight this big and yet somehow that still isn't enough.

Just what did the GOP win in this "compromise?" What did the country win? How does this "compromise" advance the GOP's arguments? How will this "compromise" help when it comes to the debt ceiling debate? Or should Boehner just "compromise" right away?

[Freeper]

Just what did the GOP win in this "compromise?" What did the country win? How does this "compromise" advance the GOP's arguments? How will this "compromise" help when it comes to the debt ceiling debate? Or should Boehner just "compromise" right away?

I have realistic expectations. I realize that we may have the house but, that is all we have.
Bohner can't wave a magic wand and make his will law of the land magically appear.
From what I have seen they are standing up to Obama as much as possible and sometimes they will win, and sometimes they will lose.

Maybe I'm the only one here not throwing a pity party right now.

[Duke Nukum]

I have realistic expectations. I realize that we may have the house but, that is all we have.
Bohner can't wave a magic wand and make his will law of the land magically appear.
From what I have seen they are standing up to Obama as much as possible and sometimes they will win, and sometimes they will lose.

Maybe I'm the only one here not throwing a pity party right now.

Okay, but what did this "compromise" accomplish.

I rather expected this too. And I expected because I know Boehner is weak. What good does compromise do if all it tells your opponents is you can be easily rolled?

[Freeper]

Okay, but what did this "compromise" accomplish.

I rather expected this too. And I expected because I know Boehner is weak. What good does compromise do if all it tells your opponents is you can be easily rolled?

What would shutting down the govt accomplish?
Other than giving the democrats their campaign strategy for 2012.

My thoughts on this whole mess is just get some kind of budget for this year then focus the fight on the next budget.
That will give them time to communicate with the people and counter all the lies from the left well before the time to submit the budget.
Sadly compromise will be a factor unless we can get control of all 3 houses then we can push forward with our agenda.

What I see happening is in 2012 the dems are going to clean our clocks and spend us into the ground, they won't make the same mistake next time they own all 3 houses like they did in 2009 and 2010.

[Traveshamockery]

What's up with the guarantee to vote in the senate on HC repeal?  That's part of the deal?  In my opinion, that's a pretty big accomplishment. 

[AdamsCountyPatriot]

OUR representatives are playing the game as if they have something to lose. In the days of TRUE citizen legislators, there was nothing to lose by standing for what's right. Your reward was a clear concience and if not re-elected, you got to go home and lead a normal life. The days of career politicans must come to an end.

When is the last time you heard of a politician saying 'I want to go home and lead a normal life' instead of 'I'm retiring'?

How many elected officials can you name that have run for office because they were asked to do so?

Thanks for listening.

[Duke Nukum]

OUR representatives are playing the game as if they have something to lose. In the days of TRUE citizen legislators, there was nothing to lose by standing for what's right. Your reward was a clear concience and if not re-elected, you got to go home and lead a normal life. The days of career politicans must come to an end.

When is the last time you heard of a politician saying 'I want to go home and lead a normal life' instead of 'I'm retiring'?

How many elected officials can you name that have run for office because they were asked to do so?

Thanks for listening.

The thing is, they are going to try and destroy Boehner no matter what, so why not at least try and do what is right?  After the government shutdown in the 90's the GOP picked up two more seats in the senate.

The thing that bugs me most is Boehner has laid all his cards on the table. Obama and Reid know they can roll him any time they want.

[docstew]

Just as I predicted, there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth here.

Yeah I realize we may not have got 100% of what we wanted, but from what I see they are trying to stand up against Obama and Harry Reid.
Maybe I'm the crazy one for having realistic expectations that sometimes compromise will be made. Oh well the dems will have control of all 3 houses in 2012 again since the GOP still isn't pure enough for some people. I can't recall a time when the GOP has put up a fight this big and yet somehow that still isn't enough.

+1

[Duke Nukum]

What would shutting down the govt accomplish?
Other than giving the democrats their campaign strategy for 2012.

My thoughts on this whole mess is just get some kind of budget for this year then focus the fight on the next budget.
That will give them time to communicate with the people and counter all the lies from the left well before the time to submit the budget.
Sadly compromise will be a factor unless we can get control of all 3 houses then we can push forward with our agenda.

What I see happening is in 2012 the dems are going to clean our clocks and spend us into the ground, they won't make the same mistake next time they own all 3 houses like they did in 2009 and 2010.

One thing a government shutdown would have accomplished, if Boehner and Cantor where capable of any sort of leadership, would have been that the world wont end if the Federal Government shuts down.

These guys don't do anything at all to try and get the American people behind them.  What good will taking the Senate and Presidency do with such weak and venal "leadership?"

Well, now, on to surrender at the next battle. America is in such great hands.

[Janice]

Ooo... I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!!

[Janice]

Republicans (via our representative Boehner) just gave 0dumbo a gold star.

Congratulations.

 

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Just as I predicted, there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth here.

I was prepared for compromise but this is paltry.

If he gave up this much where does this leave Ryan's plan?

[5412]

Hi,

Boehner has to go.  I wrote books and taught the subject of negotiations for over three decades.  Three or four days ago Boehner signaled that there was going to be a deal a government shutdown would be avoided.  Once he said that I knew we were screwed.  From a negotiations perspective that was an inexcuseable error and cost us big time.

Why is it the democrats are calling for compromise.  Perhaps every time they mention that word Boehner should say we are as prepared to compromise as they were when they jammed the health care bill down our throats.

Tea Party needs to energize once again.

regards,
5412

[formerlurker]

What would shutting down the govt accomplish?
Other than giving the democrats their campaign strategy for 2012.

My thoughts on this whole mess is just get some kind of budget for this year then focus the fight on the next budget.
That will give them time to communicate with the people and counter all the lies from the left well before the time to submit the budget.
Sadly compromise will be a factor unless we can get control of all 3 houses then we can push forward with our agenda.

What I see happening is in 2012 the dems are going to clean our clocks and spend us into the ground, they won't make the same mistake next time they own all 3 houses like they did in 2009 and 2010.

The government would have shut down, and then they would have compromised....... the only thing accomplished is the savings of taking federal worker's pay away for several weeks.  

I don't think we are losing in 2012 -- I have no idea who the nomination will be.   However, I agree with you totally on the reality check.  

[formerlurker]

Hi,

Boehner has to go.  I wrote books and taught the subject of negotiations for over three decades.  Three or four days ago Boehner signaled that there was going to be a deal a government shutdown would be avoided.  Once he said that I knew we were screwed.  From a negotiations perspective that was an inexcuseable error and cost us big time.

Why is it the democrats are calling for compromise.  Perhaps every time they mention that word Boehner should say we are as prepared to compromise as they were when they jammed the health care bill down our throats.

Tea Party needs to energize once again.

regards,
5412

That language was stated for the military.   The Democrats were writing the script on this shut down, and he didn't allow that.   Don't think for one second that Obama was trying to avoid a shut down as a shut down played to his advantage only.

[formerlurker]

One thing a government shutdown would have accomplished, if Boehner and Cantor where capable of any sort of leadership, would have been that the world wont end if the Federal Government shuts down.

These guys don't do anything at all to try and get the American people behind them.  What good will taking the Senate and Presidency do with such weak and venal "leadership?"

Well, now, on to surrender at the next battle. America is in such great hands.

I guess I am confused as to how they would accomplish this PR on leadership with the American people, when it clearly wouldn't have mattered what they did as the media has talking points they do not delineate from.   

Have no doubt that a government shut down would most likely kill the GOP in 2012.   History has taught us nothing it seems.

[formerlurker]

OUR representatives are playing the game as if they have something to lose. In the days of TRUE citizen legislators, there was nothing to lose by standing for what's right. Your reward was a clear concience and if not re-elected, you got to go home and lead a normal life. The days of career politicans must come to an end.

When is the last time you heard of a politician saying 'I want to go home and lead a normal life' instead of 'I'm retiring'?

How many elected officials can you name that have run for office because they were asked to do so?

Thanks for listening.

This isn't a sprint, it's a marathon.    You don't have the senate?  then it is all a dog and pony show.   That is how it works. 

[formerlurker]

In the world of politics, Boehner is +1:

Boehner Wins Big
April 9, 2011 2:21 A.M.
By Andrew Stiles    
President Obama’s 2011 budget called for a spending increase of $40 billion. Tonight, he touted a bipartisan agreement on “the largest annual spending cut in our history” — some $38.5 billion [emphasis added].  All told, he got $78.5 billion less than he originally requested.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) didn’t want to cut anything at first. But bowing to political reality, eventually ponied up about $4.7 billion in cuts. He ended up with $33.8 billion less spending than he wanted. And he called it an “historic” accomplishment. (Not surprisingly, the left is appalled).

House Speaker John Boehner (R., Ohio), on the other hand, initially proposed $32 billion in spending cuts. House Republicans, led by an undaunted freshman class, bumped that number up to $61 billion ($100 billion off the president’s budget), before settling on $38.5 billion. That’s $6.5 billion more than Boehner asked for to begin with, and $5.5 billion more than the $33 billion that Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Democrats claimed had been agreed to less than two weeks ago. It remains to be seen how much of that will be cuts to discretionary spending, but all told it would appear that we’'ll see a substantial reduction in baseline spending that will yield hundreds of billions in savings over the next decade.

But unlike Obama and Reid, the speaker didn’t quite feel the need to pat himself on the back over it. “We fought to keep government spending down,” he told reporters in a brief speech after the deal was announced. And they’ll keep fighting, because the biggest battles — over the debt limit and the 2012 budget — are still to come.

As Boehner himself repeated throughout this debate, “Republicans control just one-half of one-third of the federal government.” And yet look out the outcome. Perhaps more significant than the $38.5 billion in cuts, which Boehner told members was “the best deal we could get,” are the political implications as both side prepare to tackle the bigger spending issues. “We’ve changed the conversation,” said freshman Rep. Tim Griffin (R., Ark.). “This year we’re talking about how much we’re going to reduce — cut — and that’s a major cultural shift in a matter of months.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/264308/boehner-wins-big-andrew-stiles