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Offline franksolich

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pie-and-jam primitive testing pies; gelatin fails
« on: April 08, 2011, 04:52:29 PM »
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grasswire  (1000+ posts)      Fri Apr-08-11 12:21 AM
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how much does outdated gelatin degrade in four months?
 
(I apologize to those of you who are opposed to the use of gelatin.)

So I've got a strawberry chiffon pie testing tonight. Hmm, not thickening quite as quickly as I thought it should. Ah, the box says "best before November 2010."

So whadd am I going to do with nearly a whole package of gelatin envelopes? Double up?

And I wonder if that is really the problem here. Maybe too much water in the berries?

Gah!

It tastes delicious. Strawberry soup.

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supernova  (1000+ posts)        Fri Apr-08-11 10:46 AM
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1. Was the gelatin in a powder form? 

If so, it should be alright. I'm inclined to believe it was not compensating for the liquid from the berries.

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Stinky The Clown  (1000+ posts)        Fri Apr-08-11 10:51 AM
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2. Everything has a date on it. I have found a lot of the dates are meaningless in a practical sense.

Four months over a use by date might matter in some medications, but gelatin lasts a loooooooooooog time. I would use it in a heartbeat. If you double up, you may find that it is too much. Check your liquid volume. That's where I'd start. Your notion of the water in the berries is a very good place to start. Did you wash the berries? How much water is left on them from that? Could be a lot.

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grasswire  (1000+ posts)      Fri Apr-08-11 11:19 AM
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3. it did finally set up

I haven't cut a slice yet, but the mixture did finally achieve enough thickness to fold in the whipped cream. Took about twice as long as the recipe indicated it should.

Two cups of mashed berries is not going to be the same every time, I know.

I've got twenty pies to make in the next thirty hours -- having a pie-tasting event. I hope not to do too much whining.
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Re: pie-and-jam primitive testing pies; gelatin fails
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 06:45:57 PM »
frank, is Stinky trying to get your attention by posting so much in the food forum?
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Re: pie-and-jam primitive testing pies; gelatin fails
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 07:09:58 PM »
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(I apologize to those of you who are opposed to the use of gelatin.)

What the heck?!? 
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Re: pie-and-jam primitive testing pies; gelatin fails
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 07:26:00 PM »
Quote from: BEG on April 08, 2011, 07:09:58 PM
What the heck?!? 

Gelatin is made from animal (cow & pork) skin, bone, and cartilage boiled for a long time. So vegetarians and vegans would take issue with eating it. OTOH, people who appreciate not letting anything go to wasted should appreciate it. Doesn't really bother me. Lime jello & black cherry jello...foods of the gods.

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Re: pie-and-jam primitive testing pies; gelatin fails
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 07:34:21 PM »
"Ah, the box says "best before November 2010." "

What a coincidence - That was also the expiration date on Obama's "Hope & Change"...   :popcorn:
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