Author Topic: Mr. Speaker, in regards to a possible shutdown and this Planned Parenthood issue  (Read 2185 times)

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I'm split between option 1 and 2.

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Hold the line. Keep the rider, shutdown be damned

Call the bluff on the dems and see how long they allow the shutdown to go on.

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Split it off bill. Debate separately in public and make dems own tax funded abortion

Of course if he does that, we will hear from our own side how he caved.

So I will click on the first option.
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I voted to split it off, but only on a public gaurnatee from Reid that it will be allowed on the floor on its own. Also, find another cut that equals the amount that would have come from The Nationalized Abortion Clinic, aka Planned Parenthood.

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From NBC’s Chuck Todd and Mike Viqueira

At this hour, it appears that negotiators are prepared to put the fight over federal funding of Planned Parenthood aside for the moment, increasing the chances of a deal to avert a government shutdown.

One GOP source says "the issue has been resolved," while a Democratic source describes the talks as "almost there" on the so-called 'rider' that has proven to be the biggest and last stumbling block to an agreement.

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Republicans make it clear that they will revisit the issue soon, perhaps when the even larger battle on raising the debt limit - expected in the coming weeks - is joined.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/08/6435605-negotiators-ready-to-table-planned-parenthood-measure
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From NBC’s Chuck Todd and Mike Viqueira

At this hour, it appears that negotiators are prepared to put the fight over federal funding of Planned Parenthood aside for the moment, increasing the chances of a deal to avert a government shutdown.

One GOP source says "the issue has been resolved," while a Democratic source describes the talks as "almost there" on the so-called 'rider' that has proven to be the biggest and last stumbling block to an agreement.

...

Republicans make it clear that they will revisit the issue soon, perhaps when the even larger battle on raising the debt limit - expected in the coming weeks - is joined.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/08/6435605-negotiators-ready-to-table-planned-parenthood-measure

Now all the purists will cry that we have been sold out. 
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Courtesy of Weasel Zippers...

I have read this woman’s views before, mostly on abortion and “undesirables,” but this interview really does show the arrogant spite the founder of Planned Parenthood has for life, struggle, and morality. Actually hearing her speak with her cold self-righteous snippiness deepens the chill. I can almost imagine her sitting on a death panel. In this portion of the interview Sanger claims bringing a child into this world in less than perfect conditions and circumstances is the greatest sin.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEa_RkzMQOI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

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Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, never disavowed her racist/eugenics philosophy that the ‘unfit’ should be eliminated. Her Birth Control philosophy birthed Planned Parenthood — a worldwide abortion machine. They own $1 billion dollars in assets, took over $349 million in US taxpayer dollars (in 2007), earned over $190 million in abortions alone, and made $85 million in profit.

If there is any justice in this life, this unapologetic piece of feminine shit is at present a resident of hell, with her asshole being used as Satan's umbrella stand.

As it stands, this is a video reminder that every elected official in the country should be required to view before even considering giving these ****ers another dime.

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This isn't the battle.  The battle happens when they try to reach an agreement on the 2012 budget.

I like Rand Paul's ideas; they're logical.  But you want something where logical meets reasonable, which is where his proposal hits a speed bump, because the AARP is going to jump all over messing with medicare.  It's setting up a situation where the Dems, should they be able to get their act together, can come back with something deemed more reasonable.  The Republicans need to use Paul's ideas as a starting point, but then morph them into what the majority will deem as being also reasonable, and do so while they completely control the game and the ball.

As far as the debt limit, they can't skirt raising that.  You'll leave every USA bond holder on the planet, including a lot of the elderly in this country, upside down and angry.  USA bonds go to a AA Rating and it'll decrease by at least 1%, which in turn will cause a lot of people to lose a lot of money.  If you're a gambler and believe they'll hold the line on the debt ceiling, it might be time to take a market position against USA bonds and clean up.  But at this point politically, the negative ramifications aren't worth it.  Pick a better battle.

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This will be revisited when the fiscal year is over.
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I say that if they want to spend money on Planned Parenthood then They should spend money on the NRA and Gun Owners Of America and other gun rights groups. Have the government pay for giving s guns the same way they give money to keep abortions going.
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Now all the purists will cry that we have been sold out. 


truer words were never spoken. Don't know how many hundreds of fb comments I saw that said "let it shut down or you're gone in 2012!"

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truer words were never spoken. Don't know how many hundreds of fb comments I saw that said "let it shut down or you're gone in 2012!"

We don't need the left to oppose us, we shoot ourselves in the foot quite nicely.
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