walldude (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-07-11 09:57 PM
Original message
Boy it's a good thing those votes came out in favor of Prosser
or the Republicans might have thought it was voter fraud.
We're ****ed. Either way. If this was fraud then we know our votes don't count. And if it wasn't then half the ******* people in Wisconsin think Walker is right.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x839739Yep, walldud, you are - well and truly.
pnwmom (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-07-11 09:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. Not half the people in Wisconsin. Half the voters after a campaign
in which the Rethugs outspent the Democrats by 2 to 1.
walldude (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-07-11 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Which tells me what?
That even after seeing what Walker is doing, we still couldn't pull out enough people or enough money to deal with the problem.
Sorry if I'm pessimistic but it's been a pretty shitty day
Don't be a pessimist, be an optometrist.
Imajika (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-07-11 10:02 PM
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2. Either way, half the voting public in Wisconsin think Walker is right...
If tomorrow 10,000 votes turn up for Kloppenburg, the race is STILL virtually 50/50.
If after the canvassing and recounts Kloppenburg wins, it will only be by a slim margin. The state effectively split 50/50 on this referendum on Walker's union busting agenda.
This is the depressing part about all of this. Even a close win was a disappointment for me. We had the energy, emotion, organization, and momentum, and still couldn't persuade half of Wisconsin's voting public that what Walker was doing was a travesty.
You probably pissed off a few voters when you soaked your Sharpie ink into the marble columns in the Capitol building.
Imajika (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-07-11 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. They are not black boxes...
From what I understand, Wisconsin has a paper trail. This is not about the election machinery, just about reporting vote totals.
This was a case of an entire city's votes not being reported.
The democrats have all the black voters. We have the black boxes.
Poor, stupid Beth chimes in:
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-07-11 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. The machines that count those votes are computers
and yes, they are hackable.
And a paper trail that is based on hackable vote totals is worthless unless you want to build a fire.
Poor, stupid Beth is an expert on computer hacking. She is the poor, stupid girl with the dragon tattoo.
Poor,stupid Beth is also an expert on turnout.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-07-11 10:14 PM
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8. They didn't have the turnout for this to be remotely possible.
This is bullshit.
From a little humpbacked travel trailer out in the barren wastes of the California desert (unless already evicted), poor, stupid Beth knows how many people voted in a small Wisconsin town.
Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Thu Apr-07-11 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. It could have been done by remote.
All they have to do is get within a block or two to send the transmission signal.
We've been yelling about this for years.
No one is listening.
A paper ballot is the only way to go.
It's a cinch. All their transmission signal are belong to us. Rove could have done it when he was fifteen years old. And since the Freepers killed Andy, and Skimmer banned Bev, the DUmmies have no defense.