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« on: April 14, 2008, 08:52:24 AM »


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Covert Surveillance Agenda Attached to Mandatory HD TV Conversion? (April 12, 2008)

Subject: Coupons for HDTV conversion
From: Fran F.
Date: Fri, April 11, 2008 7:07 pm
To: Editor

Dear Ken,

I was wondering if you have any info about why the gub'ment is providing $40 coupons to help people buy conversion boxes to upgrade older TVs to receive HDTV signals? Our government doesn't HELP us do ANYTHING. Why this? Are those conversion boxes some sort of surveillance device?

Just wondered if you know why they are doing this -- and, by the way -- where is all this money coming from?

Thanks,
Fran F.

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Hi Fran,

Yes, the forced conversion to High Definition TV means we will only be able to receive a digital TV signal instead of an analog TV signal starting in 2009. They will then have the ability to manipulate that digital signal in any direction desired, for any purpose desired.

In addition, there is little doubt in my mind that all of the newer wide-screen High Definition TVs you find in retail outlets today have both tiny cameras and audio detection devices covertly installed within them so the NSA can both SEE and HEAR everything that goes on in your home.

The conversion boxes that they are offering with those free government coupons will surely have the same detection and surveillance devices which I assume are being installed in the newer HD TVs.

Do I have proof? No, but common sense tells me this is where it's going and it fits with the escalating evidence of the Big Brother, police state controlled society which we are being forced into.

I'm EQUALLY confident that covert monitoring/tracking chips have been installed in all automobiles manufactured since perhaps 1990 (maybe even beginning in the late 80s).

How to get around it? I haven't thought it out much, but here's a few ideas off the top of my head:

1. Don't buy the newer HD TVs and don't get their conversion box. Forget getting TV from broadcast or cable or satellite directly. One idea is to watch TV shows from your older computer with currently availabe TV reception hardware/software (newer computers probably have the surveillance devices installed) or send the video and audio from the computer into the AV jacks on your TV or VCR.

2. Watch TV shows from programs previously recorded on VHS tapes or from DVDs using your older TV and VCR equipment. This could become a cottage industry overnight if enough people become aware of the covert surveillance agenda riding along on the coattails of the forced conversion to High Definition digital television.

3. You can listen to only television audio from many inexpensive radios that include the TV audio bands from channel 2-13 In most cases, audio is good enough for me. I'm mainly looking for those few comedy offerings here and there that will provide a laugh. Most sitcoms are just awful: 'boring' or 'banal' would be complimentary descriptions.

It's also possible that some bright boys out there will be able to find and neutralize the camera and audio detection devices being installed and render them useless. Time will tell.

I'm certainly not going to buy a HD TV or get that conversion box. 95% of what you see on broadcast TV is total garbage anyway. It's intentionally designed to turn a person into an intimidated, dumbed-down, brainwashed zombie. So who needs it?

Regards, Ken

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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us usin
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 08:54:06 AM »
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I so need to show this to my dad. He's just moonbatty enough to buy into it.  :naughty:
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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us usin
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 08:58:40 AM »
Digital tv does not equal HDtv
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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 09:20:31 AM »
I feel sorry for the poor bastard that might have to watch the show on the other side. Not everyone will look like 'Girls Gone Wild' when they walk about their house naked.  :lmao:
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 09:32:36 AM »
Quote from: jtyangel on April 14, 2008, 09:20:31 AM
I feel sorry for the poor bastard that might have to watch the show on the other side. Not everyone will look like 'Girls Gone Wild' when they walk about their house naked.  :lmao:

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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 09:37:35 AM »
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on April 14, 2008, 09:32:36 AM
Quote from: jtyangel on April 14, 2008, 09:20:31 AM
I feel sorry for the poor bastard that might have to watch the show on the other side. Not everyone will look like 'Girls Gone Wild' when they walk about their house naked.  :lmao:

 :spork: :puke:

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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 09:43:07 AM »
Now this is one conspiracy theory I want not to discourage.  The idea of deranged moonbats being terrified by television sets is a scenario just too delicious to deny.   
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 10:06:41 AM »
All your TV sets belong to us! :-)
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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us usin
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 10:14:52 AM »
So what stopped the government from manipulating analog signals?
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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us usin
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 10:16:43 AM »
"How to construct an "HDTV Covert Surveillance Shield".

Supplies needed, cardboard, razor blade, siccors, tinfoil and ductape.

Construct a 3 foot by 3 foot board from cardboard.....(Obtain from a source other than WAL-MART because they're in on it to and share info with the government)

Apply a minimum of "TWO", that's 2 layers, of tinfoil taped tightly to the 3x3 cardboard sheild. (the more plys, the better)(if you can't afford tinfoil, used tinfoil  wrappers can be found in the dumpter behind Burget King, lick clean before using)

Now punch a pinhole in the upper right hand corner (left hand corner if you're left handed or left leaning)

Mount sheild (or hold sheild) at a 45 degree angle to line of sight with the TV screen. Peek at TV screen thru the pinhole. Being at a 45 degrees will deflect the rays.

Can be used outdoors if need be but a better method for deflection of rays outdoors is to build a pyramid of similar construct large enough to stand/sit and/or walk around in.

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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 10:19:46 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on April 14, 2008, 10:16:43 AM
"How to construct an "HDTV Covert Surveillance Shield".

Supplies needed, cardboard, razor blade, siccors, tinfoil and ductape.

Construct a 3 foot by 3 foot board from cardboard.....(Obtain from a source other than WAL-MART because they're in on it to and share info with the government)

Apply a minimum of "TWO", that's 2 layers, of tinfoil taped tightly to the 3x3 cardboard sheild. (the more plys, the better)(if you can't afford tinfoil, used tinfoil  wrappers can be found in the dumpter behind Burget King, lick clean before using)

Now punch a pinhole in the upper right hand corner (left hand corner if you're left handed or left leaning)

Mount sheild (or hold sheild) at a 45 degree angle to line of sight with the TV screen. Peek at TV screen thru the pinhole. Being at a 45 degrees will deflect the rays.

Can be used outdoors if need be but a better method for deflection of rays outdoors is to build a pyramid of similar construct large enough to stand/sit and/or walk around in.

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You lose some points for not employing chicken wire in there somewhere.  :-)
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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 10:37:07 AM »
Quote from: jtyangel on April 14, 2008, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: JohnnyReb on April 14, 2008, 10:16:43 AM

You lose some points for not employing chicken wire in there somewhere.  :-)

Did you know that chicken wire now comes with pre-rigged explosives at every joint? It's mandated by the federal government but only DUmmies know that.
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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 10:44:08 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on April 14, 2008, 10:37:07 AM
Quote from: jtyangel on April 14, 2008, 10:19:46 AM
Quote from: JohnnyReb on April 14, 2008, 10:16:43 AM

You lose some points for not employing chicken wire in there somewhere.  :-)

Did you know that chicken wire now comes with pre-rigged explosives at every joint? It's mandated by the federal government but only DUmmies know that.

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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2008, 11:10:14 AM »
In Before the Oh My...
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« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2008, 11:12:12 AM »
They moved it to the "September 11" (truthers) forum.

When your tinfoil hat fits too tight for the primitive's island, it is way too tight.
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2008, 11:13:18 AM »
Quote from: FlaGator on April 14, 2008, 10:14:52 AM
So what stopped the government from manipulating analog signals?
Who says it didn't?????
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2008, 11:21:09 AM »
Quote from: freedumb2003 on April 14, 2008, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: FlaGator on April 14, 2008, 10:14:52 AM
So what stopped the government from manipulating analog signals?
Who says it didn't?????

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2008, 11:27:32 AM »
Quote from: lug-nut on April 14, 2008, 11:21:09 AM
Quote from: freedumb2003 on April 14, 2008, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: FlaGator on April 14, 2008, 10:14:52 AM
So what stopped the government from manipulating analog signals?
Who says it didn't?????

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No one told about the trap door we put in Windows and Mac OS to watch them via their webcams and screens I hope.
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2008, 12:05:19 PM »
Quote from: jtyangel on April 14, 2008, 09:37:35 AM
Quote from: BlueStateSaint on April 14, 2008, 09:32:36 AM
Quote from: jtyangel on April 14, 2008, 09:20:31 AM
I feel sorry for the poor bastard that might have to watch the show on the other side. Not everyone will look like 'Girls Gone Wild' when they walk about their house naked.  :lmao:

 :spork: :puke:

I see you hear what I'm saying.  :lmao:

Yup . . . and this is what you deserve for that. :asssmack:  :tongue:
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2008, 01:37:35 PM »
Sometimes I'm amazed these people can breathe without instructions.

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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2008, 01:45:10 PM »
To be completely fair, when I first read that thread last night, almost everyone told the original poster to lay off the tinfoil.  Haven't clicked the link since, but if they put it in the "troooothers" forum, I'm sure it's being passed on as the gospel now. :mental: :mental: :mental:
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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us usin
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2008, 01:46:08 PM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on April 14, 2008, 10:16:43 AM
"How to construct an "HDTV Covert Surveillance Shield".

Supplies needed, cardboard, razor blade, siccors, tinfoil and ductape.

Construct a 3 foot by 3 foot board from cardboard.....(Obtain from a source other than WAL-MART because they're in on it to and share info with the government)

Apply a minimum of "TWO", that's 2 layers, of tinfoil taped tightly to the 3x3 cardboard sheild. (the more plys, the better)(if you can't afford tinfoil, used tinfoil  wrappers can be found in the dumpter behind Burget King, lick clean before using)

Now punch a pinhole in the upper right hand corner (left hand corner if you're left handed or left leaning)

Mount sheild (or hold sheild) at a 45 degree angle to line of sight with the TV screen. Peek at TV screen thru the pinhole. Being at a 45 degrees will deflect the rays.

Can be used outdoors if need be but a better method for deflection of rays outdoors is to build a pyramid of similar construct large enough to stand/sit and/or walk around in.

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In the VRWC memo dated 4-6-08 file DTV-DNC-42A you will see that some modifications have taken place to this instruction pamphlet to be left out at *certain places.  In memo DTV-DNC-42A the modification is as follows....

[size=18t]Instead of using a 3X3 sheet of cardboard, supplement a box slightly larger than your television set.  Line the inside with at least 3 layers of tin foil, smudge with sage, and send rays of white light into it.  Then take said box and place it directly over the television.  You can hear the t.v. though slightly muffled but all scanning rays and listening devices will be disabled.[/size]


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A. Welfare offices
B. Mental Health clinics
C. Unemployment offices
D. Jail
E. Rehab
F. AA
G. Gay bars
H.ACLU offices
I. Rom Paul campaign headquarters
J. Furry conventions
K. France
L. Canadian border stops
M. Bong shops
N. Dumpsters
O. Bail bond offices
P. Park benches
Q. Back rooms at the zoo
R. Berkeley
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What? No mention of the spy satellite run by Major League Baseball?  :lmao:
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Re: What does HDtv really mean, Is there a chance the government will spy on us
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2008, 06:56:37 PM »
Quote from: jtyangel on April 14, 2008, 09:20:31 AM
I feel sorry for the poor bastard that might have to watch the show on the other side. Not everyone will look like 'Girls Gone Wild' when they walk about their house naked.  :lmao:

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