Conservative States of America? nope can't be, I thought we were winning

[Ballygrl]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x771213

771213, The Conservative States of America...
Posted by n2doc on Wed Mar-30-11 12:14 AM

MAR 29 2011, 10:03 AM ET94
America is an increasingly conservative nation, by ideology and by political affiliation, according to polling results from the Gallup Organization. While conservatives have long outnumbered liberals and moderates across the U.S., the study sheds new light on state-by-state patterns. The map below shows the pattern for the 50 states and the District of Columbia.

771239, That's why I don't read anything from Gallop, or the WSJ
Posted by StarburstClock on Wed Mar-30-11 12:21 AM

Other worthless propaganda fronts are CNN, CNBC, Faux, ABC, NBC and CBS.

771258, This contradicts all the polling and demographic studies
Posted by RandySF on Wed Mar-30-11 12:25 AM

If the country is becoming more conservative, how is it that support is growing for marriage equality?

771497, Libertarians fall in thee conservative category and they generally support marriage equality.
Posted by former9thward on Wed Mar-30-11 01:34 AM

771277, Another interesting thing
Posted by RandySF on Wed Mar-30-11 12:28 AM

"Liberalism, which is stronger in richer, better-educated, more-diverse, and, especially, more prosperous places, is shrinking across the board and has fallen behind conservatism even in its biggest strongholds. This obviously poses big challenges for liberals, the Obama administration, and the Democratic Party moving forward.

But the much bigger, long-term danger is economic rather than political. This ideological state of affairs advantages the policy preferences of poorer, less innovative states over wealthier, more innovative, and productive ones. American politics is increasingly disconnected from its economic engine. And this deepening political divide has become perhaps the biggest bottleneck on the road to long-run prosperity."


Is he suggesting that America is getting poorer?

771319, Yeah, I'll say it's intriguing...
Posted by MrMickeysMom on Wed Mar-30-11 12:40 AM

Looks like a tightly clustered scatter graph where I notice the many of lesser income more in the southern states having more of these "values"...

Next up are the "mid-Western states including my own of Pennsylvania (SW PA is the mid West to which I refer)... These people are waving back and forth and therefore become the "swing" states.

Moral of story: Keep em dumb and ignorant, feed daily bullshit by the Sarah Palins and Rick Santorums of the nation, and I'm sure you'll have a good German ready to find the next group of people to demoralize and blame all they way to the gas chambers.

771561, not a problem at all
Posted by hfojvt on Wed Mar-30-11 01:56 AM

if you note this

"Conservatives outnumber liberals in even the most liberal-leaning states (excluding the District of Columbia): Vermont, (30.7% conservative to 30.5% liberal), Rhode Island (29.9% to 29.3%), and Massachusetts (29.9% to 28.0%)."

Look at Vermont
Conservative - 30.7%
Liberal - 30.5%
moderate - 38.8%

But for the whole country, the percentages are
Conservative - 40%
moderate - 36%
liberal - 20%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123854/conservatives-maintain-edge-top-ideological-group.aspx

Although for ten years, from 1992-2002, moderates outnumbered conservatives.

But still, although less than 50%, conservatives still out number moderates and they outnumber liberals. Or, put in combined form "conservatives outnumber moderates and liberals"

771520, they seem to make no distinction between economic and social issues
Posted by hfojvt on Wed Mar-30-11 01:43 AM

and I am betting that people are thinking of social issues when they answer since those seem to dominate the media. If they asked about economic issues, would the country be more conservative or less conservative?

771527, Misinformation is a great friend to fascists
Posted by JFN1 on Wed Mar-30-11 01:45 AM

Ask anyone. :P

[Wineslob]

DUmmie response in the face of facts = epic fail.

[DumbAss Tanker]

DUmmies, you're 'Winning' like Charlie Sheen is winning.  Duh.

 

[ChuckJ]

Another thing the DUmmies need to remember is that usually the political thinking of moderates seem to be somewhat closer to that of conservatives than to that of the bat-shit crazies...I mean liberals.

[zeitgeist]

Wait, what?

771277, Another interesting thing
Posted by RandySF on Wed Mar-30-11 12:28 AM

"Liberalism, which is stronger in richer, better-educated, more-diverse, and, especially, more prosperous places, is shrinking across the board and has fallen behind conservatism even in its biggest strongholds. This obviously poses big challenges for liberals, the Obama administration, and the Democratic Party moving forward.

But the much bigger, long-term danger is economic rather than political. This ideological state of affairs advantages the policy preferences of poorer, less innovative states over wealthier, more innovative, and productive ones. American politics is increasingly disconnected from its economic engine. And this deepening political divide has become perhaps the biggest bottleneck on the road to long-run prosperity."

Liberals are RICH?? Now that doesn't fit the narrative.  I thought liberals want to SOAK THE RICH? 
Dang. Rich liberals are not paying their fair share. 

SOAK THE LIBERALS.  NO BLOOD FOR LIMOUSINE LIBERAL OIL.
RICH DEMOCRATS NEED TO STEP UP AND PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE !!!111!!!

[thundley4]

Liberalism, which is stronger in richer, better-educated, more-diverse, and, especially, more prosperous places

And every single one of those places rank near the top in income disparity.  You have the rich limousine liberals in their high rises looking down on the slums where their serf live on the government dole. 

[Rebel]

And every single one of those places rank near the top in income disparity.  You have the rich limousine liberals in their high rises looking down on the slums where their serf live on the government dole. 

http://ironshrink.com/2010/04/are-liberals-more-intelligent-than-conservatives-another-broken-study-says-it-is-so/



Not to mention the majority of people with degrees in the medical field, business field, engineering field, and computer science field identify themselves as conservative. Liberals fill the ranks of the idiots with degrees in Sociology, humanities, English, and other Social Sciences. It's as simple as practice vs. theory. Oh, they're great on theory. In practice? Not so much. 2+2 still equals 4, no matter how many dumbass theories you come up with.