Is May 21, 2011 Judgement day?

[Freeper]

Judgment Day!
May 21, 2011
   
And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. Revelation 9:5


The End of the World
October 21, 2011

http://www.ebiblefellowship.com/may21/

I'm interested in the thoughts of Cavers on this prediction.
Read through the link, whether you have heard of this or not and vote in the poll.
My pick is, and I am agnostic, no man knows the hour.

[BlueStateSaint]

I fully believe that only The Eternal Father knows the day--not even His Only Son, Jesus Christ, knows the day.  But, I picked the "Joooooooooossssss!" option.

[Freeper]

I fully believe that only The Eternal Father knows the day--not even His Only Son, Jesus Christ, knows the day.  But, I picked the "Joooooooooossssss!" option.

Ok I'm not being a smart ass for asking this, If Jesus is God how is it he would not know the date?

[thundley4]

Ok I'm not being a smart ass for asking this, If Jesus is God how is it he would not know the date?

Compartmentalization?


ETA:  I was being a smart ass.

[Mike220]

Guess it's a good thing Revelations isn't part of my Bible...

I went with the Joooooos! of course.

[DumbAss Tanker]

I'm pretty agnostic, when I'm not busy totally ignoring the supernatural world, if any.  As I understand it, the entire Rapture business as people talk about it now is pretty much a creature of 19th Century evangelicals, and was not a part of any mainstream Christian theology before that.  The 19th Century also gave us the Millerites, a classic case of Doomsday is X date, then when it doesn't arrive, they scurry around recalcuating and waiting for a new Doomsday. 

All seems rather pointless, really.  If there is a Rapture, what is there to prepare for?  You're either worthy or not, if the idea that it's on a particular date is all that's keeping you from doing stuff that'd send you straight to Hell, I'm betting you aren't gonna make the cut anyway.

[Freeper]

Compartmentalization?


ETA:  I was being a smart ass.

Maybe there is celestial bureaucracy then. 

Guess it's a good thing Revelations isn't part of my Bible...

I went with the Joooooos! of course.

That's another thing that confuses me, why is it some people reject the book of Revelation?
I grew up baptist and the only time church wasn't boring was when they talked about Revelation.

I'm pretty agnostic, when I'm not busy totally ignoring the supernatural world, if any.  As I understand it, the entire Rapture business as people talk about it now is pretty much a creature of 19th Century evangelicals, and was not a part of any mainstream Christian theology before that.  The 19th Century also gave us the Millerites, a classic case of Doomsday is X date, then when it doesn't arrive, they scurry around recalcuating and waiting for a new Doomsday. 

All seems rather pointless, really.  If there is a Rapture, what is there to prepare for?  You're either worthy or not, if the idea that it's on a particular date is all that's keeping you from doing stuff that'd send you straight to Hell, I'm betting you aren't gonna make the cut anyway.

True, there has been a lot of debate on the rapture even amongst those who recognize the book of Revelation.

[Mike220]

That's another thing that confuses me, why is it some people reject the book of Revelation?

Because the New Testament isn't part of the Tanakh...

[longview]

It doesn't matter to me.  I live each day like it is my last and the earth/world's last.  If I get an opportunity to work, I work.  To rest or sleep, I rest or sleep.  To play, I play.

[Evil_Conservative]

I thought the world was ending December 21, 2012?  Should I change the date in my calendar?

[Rick]

No, don't change it. 14 votes and nobody believes May 21 is the data.

[compaqxp]

I'm farly confident nothing will happen that could be considered an earth ending evernt on May 21.

I was going to vote "Jooooos" but did not. After seeing the results I think I should have.

[vesta111]

Just a few 100,000 questions here.

The world of the Jews was in the middle east and south Africa all those years ago.  Their world was then as it is now small, about 10% of the earth was known at that time. 

The people of the bible were speaking to their own people and the world they lived in,   they mention world but not EARTH as a whole.     I remember from early age singing in church----"As it is in the beginning is now and ever shall be, World with out end"   Meaning WHAT???

So where are these plains that a huge battle will erupt, who are the Bear and the Eagle and the Dragon??

Some interpret this as Russia the Bear, China the Dragon and the USA as the Eagle.    When Revelations was written they was no way to know about these country's thousands of years in the future.

Could these symbols be from the tribes that still exist in that part of the world, are we watch as the Middle East destroy itself.

Strange that for a Christian to get into heaven one must believe in and request admittance from a Jew.

Is god favoring the Jews as they are HIS people, what happens to those who follow Jesus . believe in him but do not follow the old testament as HE did.    Did Jesus not head out for what Christians call Palm Sunday???

Did Jesus not celebrate the pass over of the lambs??


Very interesting thelogy, no matter how much you read one has to ignore glaring problems.

A matter of faith, like one has in their Earthly Father, one has to ignore behavior that will cause concern and just go on believing what one must.

[JohnnyReb]

The world ends Apiril 15 every year.

[vesta111]

The world ends Apiril 15 every year.

Smart ass, for us poor folk this is a time to rejoice as we get back the money we lent to the government with no interest.

[Evil_Conservative]

Smart ass, for us poor folk this is a time to rejoice as we get back the money we lent to the government with no interest.

We're poor and we OWE this year.

[DefiantSix]

Every May 21st is Judgement Day.

(My mom's birthday is May 21st, and she decides who gets to be her favorite child for the upcoming year based upon who gives the best-est gift.)

[Freeper]

So no one here thinks this will happen?

I figured a bunch of fundies would buy it. 

[JohnnyReb]

So no one here thinks this will happen?

I figured a bunch of fundies would buy it. 

It's like a birthday...we want to be surprised.

[ExGeeEye]

So no one here thinks this will happen?

I figured a bunch of fundies would buy it. 

True "fundies"-- Fundamentalist, Literalist, Bible-Believers-- know not to "set dates". 

I know this 'cuz I are one.

Those among us who choose to pay attention at all do so out of amused curiosity, and can quickly spot the holes in the calculations.

I is one o them too.

The folks behind the 5/21 prophecy treat, as incontrovertible "sez-it-in-the-Bible" facts, at least two unsupported suppositions and one factor which smells of a PDOOMA.

My faith will not be at all shaken should I find myself earthbound on 5/22.

[vesta111]

True "fundies"-- Fundamentalist, Literalist, Bible-Believers-- know not to "set dates". 

I know this 'cuz I are one.

Those among us who choose to pay attention at all do so out of amused curiosity, and can quickly spot the holes in the calculations.

I is one o them too.

The folks behind the 5/21 prophecy treat, as incontrovertible "sez-it-in-the-Bible" facts, at least two unsupported suppositions and one factor which smells of a PDOOMA.

My faith will not be at all shaken should I find myself earthbound on 5/22.

AH the Rapture, Some faiths believe that only 144,000 of us living at the time of it  World wide will be in that exclusive CLUB ----I have seen the obnoxious bumper sticks that read that ---Warning, in case of Rapture this car will be unmanned.

Just who the fig do they think they ARE, better then anyone else on the road????What makes them think so highly of themselves that they never give a thought that the car behind them has good deserving people and that in the event of a Rapture that car may be unmanned and slam into the back of their car.?? 

[ExGeeEye]

AH the Rapture, Some faiths believe that only 144,000 of us living at the time of it  World wide will be in that exclusive CLUB ----I have seen the obnoxious bumper sticks that read that ---Warning, in case of Rapture this car will be unmanned.

Just who the fig do they think they ARE, better then anyone else on the road????What makes them think so highly of themselves that they never give a thought that the car behind them has good deserving people and that in the event of a Rapture that car may be unmanned and slam into the back of their car.?? 

Well, let's see.

144,000 saved...I think it's only the Jehovah's Witnesses that believe that.  The figure 144,000 in Revelation refers to something else entirely.  There's a heckuva lot more than that in the Body of Christ.

"Better than anyone else"?  Not hardly.  A central tenet of Christian belief is that none of us are good enough, let alone "better".  Our belief in our salvation fills us, not with superiority, but with gratitude to God for His Grace and a desire to share it with others.  A person with a Christian based bumper sticker or fish emblem is inviting seekers to inquire.

(And if I can ignore the "read qu'ran" or the Hindu Symbolic Squiggle or the "Goddess Bless" appliques I see all over the place, then non-seekers can ignore the Christian ones.)

I believe in the imminence of the Rapture.  I also believe it is likely I will grow old and die in the usual way, and this world may carry on for another couple hundred years.

And yes, when it happens, any equipment from cars to planes to forklifts to kitchen stoves being operated by a believer will-- no longer be under human control.  There will be -- consequences.

[dutch508]

Just a few 100,000 questions here.

The world of the Jews was in the middle east and south Africa all those years ago.  Their world was then as it is now small, about 10% of the earth was known at that time. 

All those years ago? When Revolations was written? Or when the 12 tribes settled in the ME? Another date?

The people of the bible were speaking to their own people and the world they lived in,   they mention world but not EARTH as a whole.     I remember from early age singing in church----"As it is in the beginning is now and ever shall be, World with out end"   Meaning WHAT???

What the ****? Are you asking a question? During the time Revalations was written the ME knew about the Roman world to the Britiania, and the Eastern world to China. The Greeks had already figured out the world was round, and the size of the world, not to mention the Indians, Chinese, etc etc etc

So where are these plains that a huge battle will erupt, who are the Bear and the Eagle and the Dragon??

The place where the last battle will happen is known- Mount Armageddon (Ancient Greek: Ἁρμαγεδών Harmagedōn,[1][2] Hebrew: הַר מְגִדּוֹ‎, Har Megiddo, Arabic هرمجدون, Late Latin: Armagedōn[3])  is the site of an epic battle associated with the end time prophecies of the Abrahamic religions.The word Armageddon appears only once in the Greek New Testament.[5] The word may come from Hebrew har mÉ™giddô (הר מגידו), meaning "Mountain of Megiddo". "Mount" (actually a Tel) Megiddo is a small mount or hill on which ancient forts were built that guarded the main highway, the Via Maris, that connected Ancient Egypt with Mesopotamia. Megiddo was the location of many decisive battles in ancient times (including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC). The town Megiddo in Israel is approximately 25 miles (40 km) westsouthwest of the southern tip of the Sea of Galilee (or Lake Tiberias to the Romans) in the Kishon River area.[6]

Some interpret this as Russia the Bear, China the Dragon and the USA as the Eagle.    When Revelations was written they was no way to know about these country's thousands of years in the future.

Could these symbols be from the tribes that still exist in that part of the world, are we watch as the Middle East destroy itself.

Ummm....A prophecy is a process in which one or more messages that have been communicated to a true prophet[1] are then communicated to others by this true prophet. Such messages typically involve divine inspiration, interpretation, or revelation of conditioned events to come (cf. divine knowledge) as well as testimonies or repeated revelations that the world is divine. The process of prophecy especially involves reciprocal communication of the true prophet with the (divine) source of the messages.

Strange that for a Christian to get into heaven one must believe in and request admittance from a Jew.

Is god favoring the Jews as they are HIS people, what happens to those who follow Jesus . believe in him but do not follow the old testament as HE did.    Did Jesus not head out for what Christians call Palm Sunday???

Did Jesus not celebrate the pass over of the lambs??

That Yeshua was born Jewish is one of the least contested truths of the Bible. The very first verse of the New Covenant reads: The book of the genealogy of Messiah Yeshua ("Jesus Christ"), the son of David, the son of Abraham (Matt. 1:1). http://jesusisajew.org/Jesus_is_a_Jew.php  ---just go read the rest.

Very interesting thelogy, no matter how much you read one has to ignore glaring problems.

A matter of faith, like one has in their Earthly Father, one has to ignore behavior that will cause concern and just go on believing what one must.

The stupid ooozes from you.

[Freeper]

Well, let's see.

144,000 saved...I think it's only the Jehovah's Witnesses that believe that.  The figure 144,000 in Revelation refers to something else entirely.  There's a heckuva lot more than that in the Body of Christ.

"Better than anyone else"?  Not hardly.  A central tenet of Christian belief is that none of us are good enough, let alone "better".  Our belief in our salvation fills us, not with superiority, but with gratitude to God for His Grace and a desire to share it with others.  A person with a Christian based bumper sticker or fish emblem is inviting seekers to inquire.

(And if I can ignore the "read qu'ran" or the Hindu Symbolic Squiggle or the "Goddess Bless" appliques I see all over the place, then non-seekers can ignore the Christian ones.)

I believe in the imminence of the Rapture.  I also believe it is likely I will grow old and die in the usual way, and this world may carry on for another couple hundred years.

And yes, when it happens, any equipment from cars to planes to forklifts to kitchen stoves being operated by a believer will-- no longer be under human control.  There will be -- consequences.

The DUmmies will blame Bush if that happens.