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primitives discuss cakes shown at cooking shows
« on: March 27, 2011, 08:47:17 AM »
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mopinko   (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-26-11 12:05 PM
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those cooking show cakes

so, one of the regulars on those cake competition things shows is here in chicago- bleeding heart bakery. my kids all love these competition shows, from iron chef on up to the present imho ridiculous shows.

so, my dil's birthday was this week, and she wanted a cake from there. so she got it. i am here to tell you that those cakes are not for eating. the cake was a 3 layer deal, on the large side, but be no means outsized. it weighed a good 10 pounds. it has the texture of a high fired brick.

you would think they would be smart enough to have one recipe for building cakes and another for eating. but no....

the cake balls made of leftovers from the built cakes, tho are pretty tasty. they mix the scraps with frosting, roll them into balls, and cover them with sprinkles, etc.

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housewolf  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-26-11 01:18 PM
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1. I always thought that would be the case

So many bakeries today bake these amazing and fascinating-looking cakes, but the flavor and texture are a completely different story. And when it comes to the taste of the frosting.... well, that's yet another story. And then there's the price... well... I won't even go there!

Beauty over substance

Oh, I dunno.

Cake's cake.

But that just may be me.

Whatever; a cake is a cake is a cake is a cake.....

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Warpy  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-26-11 02:09 PM
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2. Charm City claims to concentrate on the cake meaning flavor and texture. However, for some of the edifices that have to be stacked up and carved, that cake has got to be, um, firm. Cardboard between layers will do only so much, even when the whole thing is secured by dowels.

Unfortunately, some bakeries seem to have forgotten you don't need to do that for sheet cakes.

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hippywife  (1000+ posts)        Sat Mar-26-11 09:45 PM
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3. That's always been my experience with cakes at weddings, too. Gorgeous but very disappointing taste and texture-wise. When we got married I made sure to use a woman that was in business for herself and made delicious as well as lovely cakes. And it truly was delicious!

Hmmmm.

A wedding cake made from human body parts. 

Another inspiration for another chapter in the saga of the Packer clan.

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elleng  (1000+ posts)        Sun Mar-27-11 01:01 AM
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5. You just reminded me, hw!

Cousin married 1 week after my daughter was born, so folks brought me some of their cake as I hadn't made it to wedding. Was WONDERFUL, a particularly good bakery in DC area, I think it was white chocolate mousse.

That daughter marrying in September. Will check with her on THIS detail!

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grasswire  (1000+ posts)      Sun Mar-27-11 12:46 AM
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4. I hate those cake shows.

Putting together a cake carved to look like a lamborghini riding a camel (or whatever) is a good indicator that it's going to taste like hamster bedding. IMO. And I don't call that cooking or baking.

I'd much rather watch Martha Stewart's Monday morning baking show. Everything is delicious, tasteful, and perfectly made, there.

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Callalily  (1000+ posts)      Sun Mar-27-11 08:04 AM
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7. I too am not fond of the cake competition shows, and always wondered if anyone ever ate them. Guess you answered my question.

My daughter had a SPECTACULAR tasting cake at her wedding. Very festive, very beautiful and VERY edible. 

franksolich has a question.

The primitives alleged themselves to be caring people, people concerned about the plight of those less fortunate than themselves, and are always demanding that people share.

Okay, fine.  Decent and civilized people already do that.

But these are primitives.

Why are the primitives bitching about cake when so many in the world are hungering for as much as a piece of week-old dried-up bread?

Shouldn't the primitives feel guilty whining about a less-than-perfect cake when so many others are hungry?
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Re: primitives discuss cakes shown at cooking shows
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2011, 08:51:22 AM »
We want to go to Carlo's Bakery in Hoboken, Buddy has the show Cake Boss on TLC.
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Re: primitives discuss cakes shown at cooking shows
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2011, 09:23:20 AM »
To hell with all them cakes...just give me one of my grandmothers pound cakes...and no icing on it....hmmmm good.
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2011, 10:18:13 AM »
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author=franksolich Hmmmm.

A wedding cake made from human body parts. 

Another inspiration for another chapter in the saga of the Packer clan.

Frank, I'm sitting here laughing at that. I am looking forward to that chapter! 
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2011, 10:22:55 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyReb on March 27, 2011, 09:23:20 AM
To hell with all them cakes...just give me one of my grandmothers pound cakes...and no icing on it....hmmmm good.
I agree. My mother-in-law gave me her Hershey's chocolate loaf recipe. No icing required, just a dusting of icing sugar if you wish. The best chocolate cake hands down. 
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Re: primitives discuss cakes shown at cooking shows
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2011, 11:07:38 AM »
Just about any cake is excellent if it's covered with a half-inch of heavy dark chocolate icing. Better yet if the icing has crunched up walnuts in it.
No updates on grasswire's pie shop? Hmmmm. Mrs. Packer is the one who should have a pie shop. She could call it "Sweeney Todd's".
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2011, 11:39:13 AM »
Our wedding cake was made by one of the chefs who has won the cake competition on Food Network several times. Not only was the cake gorgeous, it was also delicious.
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Re: primitives discuss cakes shown at cooking shows
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2011, 11:44:00 AM »
The limousine liberals have nothing on Marie Antoinette when it comes to cake.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2011, 12:08:39 PM »
We went to a local bakery with a great reputation for our wedding cake and I was shocked that is tasted the way it did, I was expecting the best tasting cake ever and it was just plain, and also it looked like the Leaning Tower of Pisa, we had to keep an eye on the darn thing all night to make sure it didn't tip over.
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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2011, 01:02:12 PM »
Quote from: Tucker on March 27, 2011, 11:44:00 AM
The limousine liberals have nothing on Marie Antoinette when it comes to cake.

Ain't that the truth, sir.

And actually, the "let them eat cake" comment doesn't mean exactly what the primitives think it means.

In France, during the 1780s, it was required by law that if there was no bread, cake was to be sold.....at the price of bread (i.e., cheaply, rather than being more expensive).

So the comment wasn't as heartless or frivolous as for which Marie Antoinette is blamed.

But it did show utter stupidity, her assumption that cake would be available if there was no bread to be had.

Marie Antoinette was the ideological godmother of the primitives of today.
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2011, 02:08:18 PM »
I love watching the Food Channel Challenge Shows....particularly the ones with cakes, chocolate, or spun sugar.

I don't care how they taste, I just like watching what they can do.

I was a bit dismayed though when I found out my daughter, for my granddaughter's 1st birthday, paid $65 ( :o :o :o ) for one of those huge cupcakes, simple decorations, and 3 dozen regular size to match. I've made enough cakes to know what a chocolate cake made from a box tastes like...and that's just what it was!!
Had the same girl do a quarter sheet cake, for my grandson's 4th birthday...using Camden's own Thomas the Train cars and the nastiest frosting painted green with black icing tracks on top. That one was $45. Also from a box.

She doesn't know it yet....but I'm already scouting out ideas for the kids' next birthdays!! I can guarantee the cake will taste better, there are ways to make box cakes taste just like homemade!  I think can decorate at least as well as these were...besides I have 7 months until Madelyn's 2nd birthday, to practice.   :-)
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Re: primitives discuss cakes shown at cooking shows
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2011, 02:46:09 PM »
Quote from: debk on March 27, 2011, 02:08:18 PM
I love watching the Food Channel Challenge Shows....particularly the ones with cakes, chocolate, or spun sugar.

I don't care how they taste, I just like watching what they can do.

I was a bit dismayed though when I found out my daughter, for my granddaughter's 1st birthday, paid $65 ( :o :o :o ) for one of those huge cupcakes, simple decorations, and 3 dozen regular size to match. I've made enough cakes to know what a chocolate cake made from a box tastes like...and that's just what it was!!
Had the same girl do a quarter sheet cake, for my grandson's 4th birthday...using Camden's own Thomas the Train cars and the nastiest frosting painted green with black icing tracks on top. That one was $45. Also from a box.

She doesn't know it yet....but I'm already scouting out ideas for the kids' next birthdays!! I can guarantee the cake will taste better, there are ways to make box cakes taste just like homemade!  I think can decorate at least as well as these were...besides I have 7 months until Madelyn's 2nd birthday, to practice.   :-)


I have a recipe for homemade chocolate cake, best cake you'll ever put in your mouth I promise. If you want it, I am happy to share. And it's easy to make!
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2011, 03:07:44 PM »
Quote from: VivisMom on March 27, 2011, 02:46:09 PM

I have a recipe for homemade chocolate cake, best cake you'll ever put in your mouth I promise. If you want it, I am happy to share. And it's easy to make!

Please post it in the cooking forum! I love chocolate.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2011, 03:17:48 PM »
Quote from: VivisMom on March 27, 2011, 02:46:09 PM


I have a recipe for homemade chocolate cake, best cake you'll ever put in your mouth I promise. If you want it, I am happy to share. And it's easy to make!

Well..............
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2011, 03:19:42 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on March 27, 2011, 03:07:44 PM
Please post it in the cooking forum! I love chocolate.

I will, I gotta dig it up out of my mom's recipe box. Don't make it much since my husband won't eat chocolate cake. Don't know how I missed that one before I married him.  :mental:

ETA: okay, it is in the cooking forum. Enjoy!
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2011, 03:46:10 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on March 27, 2011, 08:51:22 AM
We want to go to Carlo's Bakery in Hoboken, Buddy has the show Cake Boss on TLC.

His voice bothers the hell out of me.
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« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2011, 05:35:54 PM »
Quote from: BEG on March 27, 2011, 03:46:10 PM
His voice bothers the hell out of me.

That's how people "tawk" around here, I'm used to it LOL.
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« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2011, 06:25:42 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on March 27, 2011, 08:51:22 AM
We want to go to Carlo's Bakery in Hoboken, Buddy has the show Cake Boss on TLC.

I love Buddy's cakes!  Love as in, the look of them.  NJ is way too far away for a cake.  I have a friend on Facebook that makes amazing cakes like Buddy's.  She makes them for friend's and family in her home.

I highly doubt the cakes taste much different.  Our three tier wedding cake was delicious.  Why wouldn't any other three tier cake taste any different?  Unless the cook sucks at.... cooking.
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« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2011, 07:13:37 PM »
Quote from: Evil_Conservative on March 27, 2011, 06:25:42 PM
I love Buddy's cakes!  Love as in, the look of them.  NJ is way too far away for a cake.  I have a friend on Facebook that makes amazing cakes like Buddy's.  She makes them for friend's and family in her home.

I highly doubt the cakes taste much different.  Our three tier wedding cake was delicious.  Why wouldn't any other three tier cake taste any different?  Unless the cook sucks at.... cooking.

A few of our friends have gone there and depending on the time there are lines around the block to get in. A friend of ours went there last week and he was talking to a woman from Wisconsin, it seems to be a tourist thing now.
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2011, 07:51:15 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on March 27, 2011, 07:13:37 PM
A few of our friends have gone there and depending on the time there are lines around the block to get in.
To hell with Buddy's cakes. I'm waiting for that new pie shop in Wisconsin.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2011, 07:54:52 PM »
Quote from: GOBUCKS on March 27, 2011, 07:51:15 PM
To hell with Buddy's cakes. I'm waiting for that new pie shop in Wisconsin.

Me too!!  I'll be back in August.  I hope to get me some pie!
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2011, 08:03:26 PM »
Quote from: VivisMom on March 27, 2011, 03:19:42 PM
Don't make it much since my husband won't eat chocolate cake. Don't know how I missed that one before I married him.  :mental:

I see what you did there...  :sarcasm:
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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2011, 08:19:59 PM »
Quote from: Ballygrl on March 27, 2011, 08:51:22 AM
We want to go to Carlo's Bakery in Hoboken, Buddy has the show Cake Boss on TLC.

Sadly, we didn't make it over there when I was in NYC, but I wanted to go SOOO bad. If I could have, I would have gotten a small one tier Fondant cake. Never actually had a fondant cake, and am extremely curious to try it. Maybe with some chocolate ganache filling, and their fresh strawberries/raspberries inside.

There are oodles of choices, and combos you can have from Carlo's. Just check it out: http://www.carlosbakery.com/SpecialtyCakes/CakeFillings.php

I try never to miss an episode of the show, but it ALWAYS makes me hungry.

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I'm waiting for that new pie shop in Wisconsin.

What...wha? Hold the phone! What pie shop, when, and where??  :drool:
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2011, 08:21:37 PM »
Quote from: Revolution on March 27, 2011, 08:19:59 PM
There are oodles of choices, and combos you can have from Carlo's. Just check it out:

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