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Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« on: March 22, 2011, 01:02:51 PM »
From Ben Shapiro at Big Hollywood.

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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2011, 01:04:16 PM »
I agree with part I, but I enjoyed the Matrix --  I don't care how dumb the other two movies were.
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 01:31:14 PM »
I agree with 19 of the 20.  When The Matrix came out it was ground breaking work.  The plot was so twisted, CGI was incredible, and everything from the dialogue to the costumes were great.  Every one of the other movies were just some way of blowing smoke up Hollywood's collective asses.  They weren't good, they weren't groundbreaking, and they made 99% of the human population sit there and say WTF!?!?!?
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 01:43:38 PM »
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2011, 03:40:52 PM »
I agree with him for most of it, especially Titanic.  Couldn't finish it.  Same with 2001 Space.   I disagree on Fargo, and Pulp Fiction, which I enjoyed.

Add to the list?  Maybe it's just me, but I DVRd Dark Knight, and tried to watch it a few weeks ago.  It was slow as a slug.  I could not get into it.  Was I just in the wrong mood or something? 

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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2011, 03:59:44 PM »
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You mean Pocahontas the way Moonbats Wish it Would Have Ended?  I'd bitch-slap you if I didn't think you were collecting 'em.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2011, 05:20:49 PM »
You mean Pocahontas the way Moonbats Wish it Would Have Ended?  I'd bitch-slap you if I didn't think you were collecting 'em.

I'm not sure I get what your saying, I don't see why it was BS worthy for me questioning why Avatar was not on the list of most overrated movies.

Because it was IMO overrated.

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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2011, 06:24:52 PM »
Yes, Avatar was totally overrated.  It was beautiful but the plot was just stupid, acting was subpar, and it was covered in patchouli.
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2011, 09:40:52 PM »
Wow, I'm surprised but I agree with the vast majority of this.  When I watched most of these movies I had the same reaction.  Except- I absolutely loved The Usual Suspects.

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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2011, 10:57:05 PM »
Yes, Avatar was totally overrated.  It was beautiful but the plot was just stupid, acting was subpar, and it was covered in patchouli.

The title should have been "Dancing with wolves in space".
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2011, 11:28:30 PM »
I can understand his reasoning on matrix but if the film is accepted simply as entertainment as opposed to making deep statements then it is damn good entertainment with a well-crafted plot as opposed to 99.9658723% of the action films put to celluloid.

The inclusion of Tarantino's Pulp Fiction baffled me somewhat. The critic dislike episodic story telling. I get it. But the dialogue (Tarantino's forte) is brilliant and what is seen as episodic is really character establishment portrayed in non-linear style. And whether or not Tarantino intends it to be, PF is a morality play. The conversation in the middle of the day about the events of the beginning of the day, explains why the events in the middle of the film become what they are. Had the film been told in linear fashion the power of Jules' monologue at the end would have been lost.

This was before Tarantino was allowed to direct but he wrote the script to True Romance and this scene is just as haunting and unsettling as Samuel L Jackson's interrogation of Brad in PF:

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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 12:00:12 AM »
I must have good taste, since I have not seen even one of the movies in Part One of your post.  In fact, when my daughter and I go to the movies, we deliberately choose the movies the critics pan.  Critically acclaimed for me is simply a way to dress up an artsy farsty flop.  I want action, bad guys killed, good guys winning.  This was interesting, thanks for posting.  I'll get around to Part Two. :cheersmate:
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2011, 09:34:50 AM »
I'm not sure I get what your saying, I don't see why it was BS worthy for me questioning why Avatar was not on the list of most overrated movies.

Because it was IMO overrated.

You are correct.  However just bringing up that flop of a Cameron propaganda piece is enough to set my eyeballs to twitching, and my mouse to scrolling over for the BS button.  Call it a Pavlovian reaction, and I only just stopped the knee-jerk in time.
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2011, 10:43:17 AM »
I agree with maybe half of what he says.
But Blade Runner, American Graffiti, Chinatown?
No way.
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2011, 10:45:49 AM »
I agree with maybe half of what he says.
But Blade Runner, American Graffiti, Chinatown?
No way.

I agree wholeheartedly with his assessment of Blade Runner.  It's chloroform on celluloid.
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2011, 10:55:16 AM »
I am with the Bunny on this one.  Pulp Fiction?  No way. 
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2011, 10:59:36 AM »
IMO, Pulp Fiction hasn't aged well.  Maybe I watched it too many times, or it's my general dislike for Quentin Tarantino.  The guy's a douche.
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2011, 11:02:26 AM »
IMO, Pulp Fiction hasn't aged well.  Maybe I watched it too many times, or it's my general dislike for Quentin Tarantino.  The guy's a douche.

I agree, the dude is a big ole douche, but it has aged well for me, same with Trainspotting.  And Smokey and the Bandit.   :-)
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2011, 11:06:00 AM »
I agree with him for most of it, especially Titanic.  Couldn't finish it.  Same with 2001 Space.   I disagree on Fargo, and Pulp Fiction, which I enjoyed.

Add to the list?  Maybe it's just me, but I DVRd Dark Knight, and tried to watch it a few weeks ago.  It was slow as a slug.  I could not get into it.  Was I just in the wrong mood or something? 

Actually, I agree with Pulp Fiction--while it was a great movie, IMO, it pales in comparison to Reservoir Dogs.
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Re: Twenty Most Overrated Films of All Time
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2011, 11:22:24 AM »
I probably would have switched in Garp for Fargo, other than that I can't say he's far off.
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