ACLU vs teachers union; an obvious plot to destroy unions/stomp kittens

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

We've already seen the Walker = Hitler signs; now this:

madfloridian  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-08-11 03:15 PM
Original message
ACLU wins their appeal against teachers union. L. A. teachers lose seniority rights in layoffs blah-blah-blah...

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The article closes by warning teachers that if they are perceived as hurting education then parents of all incomes including the poor will punish them.

If the teachers unions are perceived as getting in the way of improving education, parents of all income levels, including the poor, will punish them and vote against candidates who support the unions. And the public workers unions are likely to suffer with them.

Indeed it is union busting. The warning that teachers are playing into the hands of governors like Scott Walker is a low blow and a not-so-veiled threat that we need to be good little teachers.

Amazing that the ACLU is playing this role. And I was surprised at the Truth Dig article. I guess I shouldn't be surprised at anything anymore.

 

madfloridian  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-08-11 03:23 PM
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3. They are escalating the movement against teachers' unions now. 
 I read several anti-union posts at progressive sites yesterday. I will look them up, forgot to save them as they irritated me so much.

The play is on now, and there is no one standing with teachers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x587633

The libs have been given to hysteria and hyperbole and the more the public dismisses them the worse they get. It is only a matter of time before one of them gives us "First they came, the public employee edition." I give them 4 weeks until they start claiming teachers will be shot down in the streets and sent to camps.

QUERY TO LURKERS: If you were to realize your dream of single-payer health care on your stated claim of doing it for the poor and downtrodden, which side would you take if doctors unionized and withheld services to gain more benefits, political power and money?

[NHSparky]

Seriously, DUmmies, why should we pay hundreds (yes, HUNDREDS) of administrators $200K-plus a year in a system that has a graduation rate of less than 40 percent?  I was a recruiter in that area 10-15 years ago, and the kids were dumber than hammers back then.  Schools would have 2500 freshmen, and fewer than 600 seniors.

Do the math and tell me something ISN'T wrong here.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

...the kids were dumber than hammers ...

Point of order, sir: hammers are useful

Southern Californians?

Not so much

[NHSparky]

Point of order, sir: hammers are useful

Southern Californians?

Not so much

I hope you were excluding HollywoodNeoCon and BEG, sir.

[Boudicca]

Seriously, DUmmies, why should we pay hundreds (yes, HUNDREDS) of administrators $200K-plus a year in a system that has a graduation rate of less than 40 percent?  I was a recruiter in that area 10-15 years ago, and the kids were dumber than hammers back then.  Schools would have 2500 freshmen, and fewer than 600 seniors.

Do the math and tell me something ISN'T wrong here.

Buena Vista High School in Sierra Vista, AZ, has FOUR subprincipals and the uberprincipal.
When I went to high school in San Antonio we had ONE principal for 3000 students.  That's right, we had so many students the freshmen and sophomore went to school in the afternoon while the juniors and seniors went in the morning.

THREE times the ****ing school education board has tried to ram a tax increase down our throats.  Three times voted down.  They've spent at least 100,000 dollars.
I'm sure this scenario plays across the nation.

[Vagabond]

Buena Vista High School in Sierra Vista, AZ, has FOUR subprincipals and the uberprincipal.
When I went to high school in San Antonio we had ONE principal for 3000 students.  That's right, we had so many students the freshmen and sophomore went to school in the afternoon while the juniors and seniors went in the morning.

THREE times the ****ing school education board has tried to ram a tax increase down our throats.  Three times voted down.  They've spent at least 100,000 dollars.
I'm sure this scenario plays across the nation.

Geez, I wonder if Buena Vista was that way back in the late '90s.

[dandi]

bluestateguy (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-08-11 03:20 PM
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2. They defend Limbaugh, Westboro Baptist church, Nazis in Skokie and now they bust unions
 But in some weird 14 dimensional chess world we are supposed to believe that the ACLU are our "friends".

This just confirms why I never joined that twisted organization.

blondeatlast  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-08-11 03:32 PM
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9. Sickening. If I am forced to choose between supporting labor unions and the ACLU,
 I'll choose labor unions.

 
BWAAAHAHAHA!
 
Oh, this is just too rich. All this time they thought the ACLU was the private vassal of liberals. Now they're litigating against a union and it's like, "ZOMG! The ACLU is no friend of unions. I divorce thee!"

It just goes to show they're not about rights or justice at all. They're all about "me" and as greedy as any caricatured version of conservatives they've ever made.

[Boudicca]

Geez, I wonder if Buena Vista was that way back in the late '90s.

Dunno, I wasn't here.  I should write a letter to the editor and inquire, although I've already cancelled by subscription because the SV Herald is such a doucebag liberal rag.

[DumbAss Tanker]

Dcotoral dissertation idea:  "ACLU, a case study in simulation modeling of the biology, food-gathering patterns, and life cycle of blind squirrels."

[GOBUCKS]

Buena Vista High School in Sierra Vista, AZ, has FOUR subprincipals and the uberprincipal.
When I went to high school in San Antonio we had ONE principal for 3000 students.  That's right, we had so many students the freshmen and sophomore went to school in the afternoon while the juniors and seniors went in the morning.

THREE times the ****ing school education board has tried to ram a tax increase down our throats.  Three times voted down.  They've spent at least 100,000 dollars.
I'm sure this scenario plays across the nation.

And if it fails, the first thing that will be cut is football. Every school board since the blessed invention of football has used the same tactic. And it works.

[Boudicca]

And if it fails, the first thing that will be cut is football. Every school board since the blessed invention of football has used the same tactic. And it works.

Those assholes have wasted our dollars three times to beg for more money.  We've voted it down three times.  Intelligent people might get a clue; these are obviously liberals.
So, they cut the art, PE, and music programs, but NOT the number of high school principals.