I had an idea of why Republicans don't want universal health coverage

[CactusCarlos]

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I had an idea of why Republicans don't want universal health coverage
Posted by gadjitfreek on Sat Mar-05-11 10:12 AM

    And it's tied into the union battle that is being fought all over this country. Since health coverage is tied to employment, for the most part, if you quit your job, you lose your insurance. It's too expensive for the unemployed to afford on their own. If everyone had health coverage, a Medicare for All, as it were, then people would be free to leave their jobs and find better working conditions elsewhere. You would not be tied down because of insurance. You would not have to put up with increasingly hostile working environments, cuts in pay and mistreatment by management. You would be free to start your own small business (offering competition the large corporations don't want) or find employment elsewhere where you will actually be treated with dignity and respect. The Republicans and their corporate paymasters don't want Americans to have that kind of freedom. They want them kept in a perpetual state of fear that will make them agree to whatever concessions management demands of them. That is a large part of the union-busting movement...unions are the last place one can get some kind of workplace protections. Employer-based health insurance and the exponential rise in health care costs have essentially turned the American worker into little more than a slave.

    Want to create jobs and opportunities for Americans? Universal health coverage. Want to cut medical costs? Stop spending billions of dollars to prolong the life of a dying person by "just one more month". Want to create real competition and a free market? Stop large corporations from buying out the smaller competition and killing it. Enforce anti-trust laws. Stop giving tax breaks to companies that already pay no taxes and ship our jobs overseas. Impose tariffs on imports from American companies manufacturing abroad. Invest in rebuilding our own country instead of bombing everyone else's. The solutions are not hard, but they will cost those who profit the most from our current banana republic the most. They want people to sacrifice? Then start with those who can afford to sacrifice the most instead of exempting them from sacrifice.

[Ballygrl]

nothing to do with unions at all, it has to do with rationing that goes with socialized medicine.

[seahorse513]

nothing to do with unions at all, it has to do with rationing that goes with socialized medicine.

These people need to do some serious research about National Healthcare in other countries,(England, Canada , France....)instead of saying things out of their ass...I can't speak for Canada, but experience from other relatives that still reside in the UK, NHS Stinks!!!

[Randy]

These people need to do some serious research about National Healthcare in other countries,(England, Canada , France....)instead of saying things out of their ass...I can't speak for Canada, but experience from other relatives that still reside in the UK, NHS Stinks!!!

I have a friend in Canada who has a son that is prone to grand mal seizures. After a particularly severe one that sent him to the hospital with broken bones and teeth it was decided that he needed an MRI ASAP. Her 3 week wait finally gave her an appointment for one on a top priority basis....in 6 months.

I on the other hand had a neurologist decide I needed an MRI, called the insurance company, got it authorized and sent me over. I did my 45 minutes in the hole and went back to her office where she pulled up what I'd just had done not 20 minutes before, looked at what she wanted to see and sent me back to the MRI lab for my own copy to keep. Total time? About 2 hours.

Sue finally ended up getting hooked up with a foundation who helped her out and they brought the boy to the US where they did the MRI and started him on a treatment plan. That took about three months but still beat the dog snot out of the "free" shit they have there.

[BattleHymn]

I have a friend in Canada who has a son that is prone to grand mal seizures. After a particularly severe one that sent him to the hospital with broken bones and teeth it was decided that he needed an MRI ASAP. Her 3 week wait finally gave her an appointment for one on a top priority basis....in 6 months.

I on the other hand had a neurologist decide I needed an MRI, called the insurance company, got it authorized and sent me over. I did my 45 minutes in the hole and went back to her office where she pulled up what I'd just had done not 20 minutes before, looked at what she wanted to see and sent me back to the MRI lab for my own copy to keep. Total time? About 2 hours.

Sue finally ended up getting hooked up with a foundation who helped her out and they brought the boy to the US where they did the MRI and started him on a treatment plan. That took about three months but still beat the dog snot out of the "free" shit they have there.

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[LC EFA]

We have this "free" universal healthcare over here in Australia.

None of the fantasies you've described have come to fruition.

Yet people from here still travel to the US to get world leading medical care.

We get to wait 8 hours at the ER.

Go jam it in your ass you ****in idiot.

[Carl]

I have long said that the reason DUmmies want "free" health care (wrongly assuming it will be as good as we have it now) is so they can farther drop out of productive society.

[diesel driver]

They missed the main reason (again) why Republicans don't want government run health care.

Because IT SUCKS!

[seahorse513]

They missed the main reason (again) why Republicans don't want government run health care.

Because IT SUCKS!

:thatsright:they will never get it!!!!!

[TexasCop]

I wish they'd quit using their cute little keywords such as, "universal healthcare".  Call it what it is you want.  You want FREE healthcare, paid for by other tax payers.  Here's a cute little keyword you can use instead.........MOOCH.

[SSG Snuggle Bunny]

Health care is like bread. Both are pretty essential.

Yet a day's bread can be had for less than a  dollar.

None of the freedoms and market forces that accompany the baking of bread attend the rendering of medical services.

Ironically, the latter case comes  from the imposition of liberalism's ideas of fairness.

[Ballygrl]

These people need to do some serious research about National Healthcare in other countries,(England, Canada , France....)instead of saying things out of their ass...I can't speak for Canada, but experience from other relatives that still reside in the UK, NHS Stinks!!!

I had a tumor in 2007, it was diagnosed in Dec. 2007, I had the CT Scan, consult with the Surgeon and the biopsy and found out the tumor was benign, the Surgeon said he could schedule Surgery for 3 weeks away if I wanted or I could take a couple months off, I chose to take a couple of months off, around that time I was posting on a message board I found in reference to my tumor, we had a guy from the UK posting there, from diagnosis to actual Surgery it was 18 months!!!!!!!!!!! it took him over 6 months to get the appt. with the specialist, and since this type of tumor tends to be benign he had to wait over a year for Surgery because it wasn't considered urgent, even though some of these tumors can be malignant he still had to wait. We've had patients come from Canada to the US to have the Surgery done.

[TexasCop]

Their cries for free healthcare expose the left for the greed we all knew they had.